Straycat said: broll said: Straycat said: I thought soft capping meant you don't level them all the way. Thats the way we called it for keeping a 5 underleveled for scaling, right? So a 5 at 255 is softcapped, because even at 1 cover they can go to 270. Then they would be hard capped. Soft capping means different things to different people and I've seen several people talk about different types of soft capping.1. Leveling to some optimal level before the level required to champ (This is usually where ISO spend is as low as possible to get the character to a 'usable' state).2. Leveling to the cap imposed by not having enough covers.I personally think both are fine uses of the term, though it's confusing for people to use both interchangeably. Calling #2 a hard cap would be confusing in the same way IMO with 2 different definitions for the same term. The better solution would be a totally different term. Cover Capping? I tend to say level maxed to avoid confusion, but I wanted to make the distinction between what I think soft vs hard cap is. I think saying your entire roster is hard capped makes more sense, because it covers those you champed and those you are limited by covers. Saying your entire roster is soft capped sounds like you have 0 champs.
broll said: Straycat said: I thought soft capping meant you don't level them all the way. Thats the way we called it for keeping a 5 underleveled for scaling, right? So a 5 at 255 is softcapped, because even at 1 cover they can go to 270. Then they would be hard capped. Soft capping means different things to different people and I've seen several people talk about different types of soft capping.1. Leveling to some optimal level before the level required to champ (This is usually where ISO spend is as low as possible to get the character to a 'usable' state).2. Leveling to the cap imposed by not having enough covers.I personally think both are fine uses of the term, though it's confusing for people to use both interchangeably. Calling #2 a hard cap would be confusing in the same way IMO with 2 different definitions for the same term. The better solution would be a totally different term. Cover Capping?
Straycat said: I thought soft capping meant you don't level them all the way. Thats the way we called it for keeping a 5 underleveled for scaling, right? So a 5 at 255 is softcapped, because even at 1 cover they can go to 270. Then they would be hard capped.
Huh. I use "hard cap" as a more abstract term - "soft cap" is where they can be leveled to based on covers, "hard cap" is their actual level maximum (aside from champing.) So the "iso to soft cap" is what I can spend now, the "iso to hard cap" is what I can theoretically spend based on what the character is. I track that on the character by character basis, for each category (3*, 4*, 5*) of character, and for my overall roster.
So right now, for example, I need 2,263,310 Iso to "Hard Cap" my roster. Most of that comes from under-covered 5*s, but I also haven't finished Dazzler or Nebula. I haven't added Taskmaster yet (I have a separate section for Trophy characters.) To soft cap my roster, I need... 0. I can't spend any Iso on my roster until I get some more covers.
OJSP said: Actually, let’s try to outline this properly:Getting a 3* to lvl 266 requires 113 covers and we will get: 57500 iso, 2 Heroic, 5 LTs, 1000 HPs, 50 CPs and 3 4*s. We can then sell the 266 for 105000 iso and 500 HP. We get the LT at lvl 167, 227, 239, 257 and 266 (that’s 60 lvls, 12 lvls, 18 lvls and 9 lvls apart).Selling a 3* at 167 gives us 25200 iso. We get an LT for every 14 covers. With 112 covers, we get 8 LTs. So, compared to getting a 3* to 266, we ARE getting less resources, like we already know. But, we want to spend iso, we don’t need roster slots to keep the duplicate to 266 and we get LTs faster.
OJSP said: But, they are post-iso and looking for a way to spend it.. Getting 167 8 times will take time too, they would’ve gained that much in a month anyway. I’ve shown it time and again how much an LT is worth in the current economy, without directly spending iso on it. So, someone give me a number: how much do you think an LT is worth? Another thread ( https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/71031/option-to-trade-excess-iso-for-something ) mentioned 2 million iso. I suggested 500k here.. any other advances?
OJSP said: Spudgutter said: Yeah, but i don't think the solution is to cut off the nose to spite the face.They want to have something to do with the iso, that doesn't negatively impact the rest of their game. It doesn’t have to be that way. I’m trying to discuss this. So far, I’m just reading criticisms and no counter suggestions.What do you want to get for your iso?
Spudgutter said: Yeah, but i don't think the solution is to cut off the nose to spite the face.They want to have something to do with the iso, that doesn't negatively impact the rest of their game.
OJSP said: Spudgutter said:Some people are able to come up with ideas (good and bad), some people are able to evaluate ideas, and some people can do both. I am in the second group, and am fully aware of it. Well.. usually when I want to argue with someone, at least I’d have something to offer..
Spudgutter said:Some people are able to come up with ideas (good and bad), some people are able to evaluate ideas, and some people can do both. I am in the second group, and am fully aware of it.