That awesome Reliquary Tower! No... no it's not.

FindingHeart8

DumasAG said:

FindingHeart8 said:

Laeuftbeidir said:

FindingHeart8 said:

Rhasget said:

FindingHeart8 said:

drawing cards is pretty useless if you have no mana to use them.

It might be more useful if instead of converting 3 gems to loyalty, you just gained 3 loyalty per turn.

Could make for an interesting new strategy, where you'd bank the game primarily on using your PW abilities as frequently as possible instead of relying on combos or power cards in your deck.

That was the idea in my deck I posted above. The gemchangers create alot of loyalty also so ult ks always ready and with the extra cards you can fling several spells every round.
It's a bit slow though and the best spell requires a legendary creature to be out. That was supposed to be Akrom but since she's bugged it doesn't work as well.

Great minds think alike, lol

Yeah Huati2 gave us a taste of how awesome it is to be able to activate loyalty abilities every turn, but her 2nd and 3rd abilities themselves are kinda meh.  Would love if a card like this made it easier to replicate with other planeswalkers.

I'm not sure whether we're playing the same game. H2s ultimate isn't even remotely meh, card draw and direct mana generation in green white?

The second is okay. I've used it maybe half a dozen times, but each time it saved my game.

She runs similarly to Sorin.  Great if you've already built an army (in that case you probably should already be winning), but if your opponent specializes in creature removal it's going to be a long up-hill battle.

Take what I say with a bit of subjectivity though.  I'm a heavy Grixis player in paper magic and mtgpq.

Interesting! As a more veteran player who seems to have a firm grounding in law in real life, I totally had you pegged as Azorius and/or Esper.

I do a weird mix.  Azorius and Esper can be super fun but they're also structurally predictable.

Metaphor-wise: The full-plate armored paladin wielding a warhammer + tower shield is a formidable tank.  But I'd much rather be a battle mage wielding 2 swords, with my only defense being able to dodge.  Yeah combat-wise I'm considerably more vulnerable if they can hit me, but the real battle is going to be waged in my opponent's head where I'm at also at a disadvantage, yet it's much more fun to fight there

I'm curious now, what would your colors be?  I'll PM this to you so we don't go too far off topic

Enygma6

All the new PWs look like they could benefit from a Loyalty-heavy strategy with Reliquary Tower, though some may require a bit more help/luck than others.
Bolas2: build to a quick flip, then abuse his side-2 shenanigans
Ajani3: add some discard, the get things out for free
Liliana4: abuse her own discard, then dig things up when you have a black match ready
Sarkhan2: make lots of dragons
Tezzeret3: thopter spam and free stuff
Vivien: zoo deck strategy - pull up cheap creatures, fill 2nd half of mana with a single swap.  Make them big and scary murderbeasts.  
  
DOM:
Karn: Dig through and un-exile cheaper things that can be cast in one turn.  Or make a bunch of bots.
Jaya: Free spells all day long
Teferi: Ultimate lockdown denial, extra swaps as needed to actually cast something.

RIX:
Angrath: discard denial abuse.  Needs cheaper 1-match cast cards.
Huatli2: cheaper (1-match cast) creatures to power up the draw/mana engine every turn.  White vamp tokens can already do this without the "help" of Reliquary tower.

Gunmix25

Enygma6 said:

All the new PWs look like they could benefit from a Loyalty-heavy strategy with Reliquary Tower, though some may require a bit more help/luck than others.
Bolas2: build to a quick flip, then abuse his side-2 shenanigans
Ajani3: add some discard, the get things out for free
Liliana4: abuse her own discard, then dig things up when you have a black match ready
Sarkhan2: make lots of dragons
Tezzeret3: thopter spam and free stuff
Vivien: zoo deck strategy - pull up cheap creatures, fill 2nd half of mana with a single swap.  Make them big and scary murderbeasts.  
  
DOM:
Karn: Dig through and un-exile cheaper things that can be cast in one turn.  Or make a bunch of bots.
Jaya: Free spells all day long
Teferi: Ultimate lockdown denial, extra swaps as needed to actually cast something.

RIX:
Angrath: discard denial abuse.  Needs cheaper 1-match cast cards.
Huatli2: cheaper (1-match cast) creatures to power up the draw/mana engine every turn.  White vamp tokens can already do this without the "help" of Reliquary tower.

Arch of Orazca already does all of that for the planeswalkers listed both cheaply and without sucking one dry of mana and still get cards 

Brigby

Thanks for the in depth write up, @Gunmix25! I'll be sure to include your thread in my report to the team, so they're aware.

Gunmix25

Brigby said:

Thanks for the in depth write up, @Gunmix25! I'll be sure to include your thread in my report to the team, so they're aware.

Thank you @Brigby that's all I was hoping for and appreciate you doing so.  Looking forward to hearing back on what they have to say.