Jaya or Teferi - Which super friend is more worth your money?

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  • Gun Bunny
    Gun Bunny Posts: 233 Tile Toppler
    Brakkis said:
    ZW2007- said:
    Jaya's ult is definitely bugged. In the second video you cast Rile and draw one Firebrand Archer and then 5 Conflux. You should only be drawing Archer, then Conflux, then creating a copy of Conflux. It seems like the created copy is counting as being drawn and getting full mana and copied. It shouldn't be doing either. I still have no idea how it just keeps making infinite copies of Conflux. The support says "Whenever you draw a spell, give it full mana and create a copy of it." So how are you getting more Conflux after casting a Conflux? I know Conflux draws cards thanks to her blue mana gains but it shouldn't just automatically draw and create more copies of Conflux. 

    It would seem that her ult is considering the copied spell as "drawn" and creating a copy of the copy.

    Gun Bunny said:
    Jaya has good abilities, but lacks the access to cheap, reliable draw that doesn't have a downside that would really make her ultimate sing.

    There is literally a post with videos on this same page showing otherwise...

    Teferi is still the better option.
    Forgot to add "compared to blue".

    And if she's bugged, they tend to prioritize those over individual card bugs, so that should get fixed pretty quick.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    Jaya's ultimate is obviously bugged. I wouldn't get too excited over the "infinite loops". 
  • Snappyturtle
    Snappyturtle Posts: 133 Tile Toppler
    If we could get some confirmation that Jaya's 3 would please get fixed? Or at least it's on the board to get fixed.

    Teferi has blue/white which offers near perfect control. Especially with how amazing blue gets in this game. Dovin has been great even with the 'energy' cards rotating out. I still use his second reliably with the auto-energize effect it has. But his 1st costs too much for mana now that Teferi is out with his own mana gains. That was the only drawback that Dovin had.

    In comparison. Or at the very least what I see:

    D's 1st- already mentioned the mana.

    D's and T's 2nd- same draw but T has a bonus with it and draws more

    D's 3rd- more difficult to achieve without legacy cards. great creatures boost if you can get it going in a long match. which in this game is a bad idea dragging anything out.

    T's 3rd- adding more to the control on blue/white decks. if the game gets long it adds further to the survivability at that point.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    khurram said:
    Jaya's ultimate is obviously bugged. I wouldn't get too excited over the "infinite loops". 

    Very bugged. The bug is due to how Jaya's 3rd interacts with Alhammeret's archive. Once the 1st spell is drawn while both supports are in play, that is the spell and only card that Jaya will draw infinitely and those copies will also be filled with mana, every single one. I've tested this out with a completely empty hand and watched Jaya refill her hand with more filled copies of the same card...which was over 40 in a row by this point since I was humoring myself by discarding them all every turn.
  • Gun Bunny
    Gun Bunny Posts: 233 Tile Toppler
    Same thing happens with Jhoira with an archive in play, only the second gets Mana. If you have five cards in hand already, you're SOL.
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    Same happens with Magus of the Wheel and Archive.  You draw 6 cards instead of 4, but only the first 4 get the mana (despite his ability reading "all cards in hand")
  • IM_CARLOS
    IM_CARLOS Posts: 640 Critical Contributor
    I choose Teferi. With Azor, StV, Wreckage and Starfield the Ult. seal the deal.