Squee - what's the point?

Gilesclone

Nobody is saying that Squee is a great card.  Is he better than Depala?  Probably.  Better than Solemnity?  Certainly.  Better than 60% of available rares?  No.

But some people have found ways to make him useful.

Enygma6

I used him on AWR 1.3 to get my loss count high enough for the objective.  Just cast him once and let Greg kill him a few times.  Forebear's Blade is probably the best use for him in Standard.

FindingHeart8

Brakkis said:

FindingHeart8 said:

Brakkis said:

So I have Squee (my first rare, unfortunately) and I think about half of those cards that can be run with red and work by consuming reinforcements. It's not a good deck, or even a halfway viable deck in Platinum.

I will outright state that Squee is a worthless immortal creature that, even if you were to give him Berserk & First Strike, he'd be a tiny 3/2 trying to kill 8/8's over 3+ turns and accomplishing nothing.

worthless?!  Worthless now, maybe.

wait until WotC brings back Worship again and mtgpq finally adds it in...then squee will be your new best friend

They will never add that card, even if it's brought back. It would be so broken in PQ.

aaaah shucks, I was hoping you were enough of a Squee nerd to catch my bad pun off the flavortext

I definitely think, if they did choose to bring back Worship, that it would be best to not bring it back as is.  However, Lich's Mastery is more broken than Worship would be even if they translated it directly over...so I'm open to the idea of Octagon taking another leap to rattle the player base

Tilwin90

Torgaar and mox Amber are the only cards that can truly profit from him. If he costed far less he would be slightly interesting. At 20 and with all the exile effects... Thanks but no thanks. 

Mburn7

Tilwin90 said:

Torgaar and mox Amber are the only cards that can truly profit from him. If he costed far less he would be slightly interesting. At 20 and with all the exile effects... Thanks but no thanks. 

I agree.  20 cost would be good if he also came back from exile (like in paper).  Than he's a 3/2 that literally can never go away.  Not overpowered, but certainly annoying.

Now he's a 20 drop that white and black just laugh at that can only function as a combo piece

wereotter

Doing a scan through of the cards, Squee is meant to be an engine for goblin sacrifice effects, just like he tends to be in the paper game. If you look at other goblin effects, it seems the theme this time around is to lose creature reinforcements for a specific effect. Siege-Gang Commander and Skirk Prospector automatically rip off the reinforcements for damage and mana, Goblin Barrage does the same for damage, and Goblin Warchief will pump him up for every time he is reinforced.

He looks like he could be an interesting card for a goblin deck, but at 20 mana to cast him, it seems a bit too much to ever be interesting. I do like that he always comes back unless exiled, though, so you could play him in legacy events with cards like Bone Splinters, Heart-Piercer Manticore, and Altar's Reap. It's unfortunate that so many other sacrifice a creature effects in the game don't let you pick which of your creatures you want to lose, else he could do a lot more work.

ZW2007-

Tilwin90 said:

Torgaar and mox Amber are the only cards that can truly profit from him. If he costed far less he would be slightly interesting. At 20 and with all the exile effects... Thanks but no thanks. 

Mox Amber is junk and doesn't count reinforcements like it's supposed to.

Mburn7

ZW2007- said:

Tilwin90 said:

Torgaar and mox Amber are the only cards that can truly profit from him. If he costed far less he would be slightly interesting. At 20 and with all the exile effects... Thanks but no thanks. 

Mox Amber is junk and doesn't count reinforcements like it's supposed to.

Is it junk because it's bad, or just because it doesn't work correctly?  Its hard to judge non-functional cards (looking at you Elvish Piper)

ZW2007-

I think it would still be junk even if it worked correctly. It costs 15 to play which is already pretty expensive for a ramp card. Then it has activate 3 which isn't even a guarantee to get that mana each turn. If you are in a situation where it is making lots of mana, you are probably already winning anyway so that mana is useless. It's a bad win-more card imo.

wereotter

Mburn7 said:

Tilwin90 said:

Torgaar and mox Amber are the only cards that can truly profit from him. If he costed far less he would be slightly interesting. At 20 and with all the exile effects... Thanks but no thanks. 

I agree.  20 cost would be good if he also came back from exile (like in paper).  Than he's a 3/2 that literally can never go away.  Not overpowered, but certainly annoying.

Now he's a 20 drop that white and black just laugh at that can only function as a combo piece

You couldn't kill or exile him, sure, but you could always Cast him Out and even if you can't outright kill or exile him, a 3/2 that can't get larger from reinforcements is unlikely to be the biggest threat out there.

Enygma6

And you can always just bounce him back to the hand with Blue, to clean off his reinforcements and make your opponent spend another 20 to cast him again.  I can see that keeping Greg busy all match.

andrewvanmarle

I made a squee deck with some assembly required, that was fun

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Bubbles

He is an awesome addition to Sarkhan the Mad decks - I have him and Darigaaz in that deck, so I can make endless Dragons