2.7 Release Notes *Updated (5/23/18)

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  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,080 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Gunmix25 said:
    Brakkis said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    khurram said:
    I also believe that the copied spells will clog up your hand and prevent you from drawing more cards via draw spells.

    This is what I believe will occur too. Despite the belief that she'll be an infinite loop. The copies are in fact a stop gap.

    Magmatic Insight comes with built in discard before it draws. It subverts the copy stop-gap by constantly making room.
    Yeah, you're right. It would. Took a bit to write it out but you're absolutely right. It would loop until the end of the match. 
    How would it loop until the end of the match...

    You draw magmatic insight, it gains Mana, and a copy is created. It discards its copy and draws 2 cards. Which could be anything, unless there are no other cards in the deck other than magmatic insight. Are there other draw spells in standard for a red PW? There's tormenting voice and cathartic reunion in legacy. But even with them there is no guarantee that the drawn cards will be one of those spells.

    Also you'd have to have ID on the board for the spells to matter. And those decks already exist. The game is doing just fine with them existing.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2018
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    khurram said:I9
    Gunmix25 said:
    Brakkis said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    khurram said:
    I also believe that the copied spells will clog up your hand and prevent you from drawing more cards via draw spells.

    This is what I believe will occur too. Despite the belief that she'll be an infinite loop. The copies are in fact a stop gap.

    Magmatic Insight comes with built in discard before it draws. It subverts the copy stop-gap by constantly making room.
    Yeah, you're right. It would. Took a bit to write it out but you're absolutely right. It would loop until the end of the match. 
    How would it loop until the end of the match...

    You draw magmatic insight, it gains Mana, and a copy is created. It discards its copy and draws 2 cards. Which could be anything, unless there are no other cards in the deck other than magmatic insight. Are there other draw spells in standard for a red PW? There's tormenting voice and cathartic reunion in legacy. But even with them there is no guarantee that the drawn cards will be one of those spells.

    Also you'd have to have ID on the board for the spells to matter. And those decks already exist. The game is doing just fine with them existing.
    You are correct. I erred in my math... I drew out a step by step occurrence of what would happen if HUF and MI interacted. But I was only focusing on those two spells. Dunno why I did, I've  a cold this weekend so I blame the meds. ;) lol

    Anyways...
    I figured something along like this... say hypothetically HUF is the only card in hand at the moment and you cast it. MI is the only other spell for arguement's sake. Apologies my friend. 

    With corrections ... and adding more possible card interactions

    It should play out like this in theory. 

    Legend:
    Huf= original spell and is fully charged by loyalty 3
    H2 = huf copy and uncharged.
    MI = magmatic Insight fully charged by loyalty 3
    M2 = Magmatic insight copy and uncharged
    S = random support
    C = random creature

    HUF casts
    Fetches 4 spells
    Hand: MI, MI, MI, MI
    MI casts, and discards the last MI in hand and draws C, S.
    Hand: MI, MI, C, S
    MI casts and discards S and draws C, C
    Hand: MI, C, C, C
    MI casts and discards last C and draws S, S
    Hand: C, C, S, S
    Stop gap.

    I have this right?

    Or... say... 

    HUF casts
    Fetches 4 spells
    Hand: MI, MI, MI, MI
    MI casts, and discards the last MI in hand and draws C, S.
    Hand: MI, MI, C, S
    MI casts and discards S and draws C, HuF
    Hand: C, C, HUF, H2
    HUF casts and 4 MI cards are fetched and only 3 can be placed in hand. 
    Hand: C, C, H2, MI, MI, MI
    MI casts and the last MI is discarded and draws S, S.
    Hand: C, C, H2, MI, S, S
    MI casts and discards S and draws C, HUF
    Hand: C, C, H2, S, C, HUF
    Huf casts and fetches one MI
    Hand: C, C, H2, S, C, MI
    MI casts and discards the last C and draws S, S
    Hand: C, C, H2, S, S, S
    Stop gap 

    This should be right too. 
    While loyalty 3 is good... it isn't as powerful as its being made out to be. 

    Thanks @khurram for correcting me. 

    A note: because of HUF, ... an M2 is unlikely to occur... MI casting won't draw one of its own because  HUF thinned out the deck of MI cards. 
  • Bil
    Bil Posts: 831 Critical Contributor
    edited May 2018
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      Im not sure the jaya's loyalty 3 fits very well with HUF as huf basically reduces the number of spells to draw from your deck. It's probably more interesting to play her with many spells on the deck but no fetch at all.
      With a bunch of draw/discard red spells and some heavy spells, she might do the job pretty well even if you won't get a real loop out of it.
      
  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
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    One other question @brigby @LakeStone
    Will the packs delivered by events and daily rewards be changed?
    Currently we can receive packs from HOU and IXL on a daily basis and the latest set.. Like once a month. Daily rewards even give out KLD packs.. More RIX and particulary more dom boosters would be appreciated

  • Blazer
    Blazer Posts: 84 Match Maker
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    Today? Didn’t the last two sets drop on a Tuesday?
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Blazer said:
    Today? Didn’t the last two sets drop on a Tuesday?


    Yep they did and usually they drop around 11 am pst. Rix was released at 1pm pst on a Tuesday, though. but all other updates occurred at 11am pst.

    Here's to hoping that they stick their usual schedule *fingers crossed*

  • Parasith
    Parasith Posts: 20 Just Dropped In
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    When does the Karn offer end? Maybe this will give us a hint...
  • Brigby
    Brigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 7,757 Site Admin
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    *Updated to Final Release Notes, and added info on Standard rotation, and Rivals of Ixalan in Booster Crafting
  • bk1234
    bk1234 Posts: 2,924 Chairperson of the Boards
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    Thanks!  Let's get this party started!
  • HolyHeck
    HolyHeck Posts: 2 Just Dropped In
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    Oooooh, Final release notes, that's a good sign! The live drop anticipation is killing me, and certainly not helping me finish press day at work, haha.
  • Parasith
    Parasith Posts: 20 Just Dropped In
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    MAYBE TODAY?
  • Theros
    Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
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    tomorrow more likely
  • HolyHeck
    HolyHeck Posts: 2 Just Dropped In
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    Ohhhhh how I wish I could just...Pull From Tomorrow.

  • Froggy
    Froggy Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
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    Seems great! I’m really excited about this release.

    Its really a shame that there is not a care from hell about the more than 200 complaints about Gilded Lotus and the whole Karn bundle card set. Why mar this release with this carelessness?
  • rafalele
    rafalele Posts: 876 Critical Contributor
    edited May 2018
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    Brigby said:
    *Updated to Final Release Notes, and added info on Standard rotation, and Rivals of Ixalan in Booster Crafting
    RIX is already in Booster Crafting in 2.6 version.
  • Gilesclone
    Gilesclone Posts: 735 Critical Contributor
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    Probably meant the price won’t go down yet.
  • Grixis197
    Grixis197 Posts: 188 Tile Toppler
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    Unless he means DOM for 2.7.1 should be 
  • rafalele
    rafalele Posts: 876 Critical Contributor
    edited May 2018
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    The update is availabled in Android .
  • Brigby
    Brigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 7,757 Site Admin
    edited May 2018
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    Grixis197 said:
    Unless he means DOM for 2.7.1 should be 
    Yes. That's what I meant. Sorry about the confusion. I've corrected the release notes.

    Rivals of Ixalan will have the usual booster price starting in 2.7

    //Corrected Comment
  • rafalele
    rafalele Posts: 876 Critical Contributor
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    Brigby said:
    Grixis197 said:
    Unless he means DOM for 2.7.1 should be 
    Yes. That's what I meant. Sorry about the confusion. I've corrected the release notes.

    Having said that though, Rivals of Ixalan will already have the decreased Crafting price starting in 2.7
    Sorry @Brigby RIX crafting price in 2.7 remains equal as in 2.6.

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