Questions about Rogue's Yellow

NeonBlueNeonBlue Posts: 99 Match Maker
I have a few questions about Rogue's Yellow, since the visual indicators don't really match up to what might be going on.

1. If she's in front, does it reduce the team damage done to other characters? In a match, the numbers indicate she takes reduced damage, but it has shown that her allies take full damage. Is this occurring or is this just a UI thing?

2. I used her against some goons in PvE, and when their damage countdown went off, it showed that I took full damage. Is this also a UI thing, or is this intentional?

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  • QuebbsterQuebbster Posts: 7,141 Chairperson of the Boards
    Pretty sure Rogue only reduces damage to herself, not to allies. Can't say how it works against goons, but I do know she only reduces damage from matches and Powers, not from other sources like attack tiles.

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  • NeonBlueNeonBlue Posts: 99 Match Maker
    edited May 3
    Quebbster said:
    Pretty sure Rogue only reduces damage to herself, not to allies. Can't say how it works against goons, but I do know she only reduces damage from matches and Powers, not from other sources like attack tiles.
    If that's true about only her taking reduced damage, then the wording for the ability is unnecessarily confusing. It states "As long as Rogue is in front, enemy matches deal 10% less damage for each teammate still in the fight." Why couldn't they have just said, "As long as Rogue is in front, she takes 10% less damage from enemy matches (and powers) for each teammate still in the fight." 
  • MoosePrimeMoosePrime Posts: 87
    Because you need enough covers in yellow to get the power reduction (I don't remember if it's 4 or 5).  Check out the level 5 description.
  • NeonBlueNeonBlue Posts: 99 Match Maker
    edited May 3
    Because you need enough covers in yellow to get the power reduction (I don't remember if it's 4 or 5).  Check out the level 5 description.
    It's true that match damage only affects the front character, so that makes sense. However, when coming up with the description, they didn't consider that their wording would be misleading for levels 4 and 5 of the ability? Seems like a pretty important oversight
  • MoosePrimeMoosePrime Posts: 87
    NeonBlue said:
    Because you need enough covers in yellow to get the power reduction (I don't remember if it's 4 or 5).  Check out the level 5 description.
    It's true that match damage only affects the front character, so that makes sense. However, when coming up with the description, they didn't consider that their wording would be misleading for levels 4 and 5 of the ability? Seems like a pretty important oversight
    It seems I may have misunderstood your confusion, your edit makes it more clear.

    I agree that your suggested wording would make sense.
  • VoldVold Posts: 134 Tile Toppler
    NeonBlue said:
    Quebbster said:
    Pretty sure Rogue only reduces damage to herself, not to allies. Can't say how it works against goons, but I do know she only reduces damage from matches and Powers, not from other sources like attack tiles.
    If that's true about only her taking reduced damage, then the wording for the ability is unnecessarily confusing. It states "As long as Rogue is in front, enemy matches deal 10% less damage for each teammate still in the fight." Why couldn't they have just said, "As long as Rogue is in front, she takes 10% less damage from enemy matches (and powers) for each teammate still in the fight." 
    To me it sounds like if u got more allies, she got more defense 

    1x ally alive = 10%
    2x ally alive = 20%

    :smile:
  • HoundofShadowHoundofShadow Posts: 627 Critical Contributor
    This is Rogue's defensive ability, based on in-game description:

    Leading the Charge - 0 Yellow AP (PASSIVE):
    (PASSIVE) Rogue's superhuman durability makes a great frontline fighter and a tough target for her enemies.  
    Level 1: As long as Rogue is in front, she takes 10% less damage from enemy matches for each teammate still in the fight.  Whenever the enemy makes a Green, Red, or Yellow match, send Rogue to the front.
    Level 2: ... she takes 15% less damage from enemy matches for each teammate still in the fight.
    Level 3: ... she takes 20% less damage from enemy matches for each teammate still in the fight.
    Level 4: ... she takes 20% less damage from enemy matches and powers for each teammate still in the fight
    Level 5: ... she takes 25% less damage from enemy matches and powers for each teammate still in the fight.

    This is what I saw in-game. Unless they did a stealth change after you posted this, it's quite clear that only she takes reduced damage. Her power description in the forum might not be clear.

    I think it's likely that if minions' powers deal damages before they lay down the countdown tiles, her ability would reduce the damages. So, we need a definition of what "power" is and what "power" is not.

  • NeonBlueNeonBlue Posts: 99 Match Maker
    This is Rogue's defensive ability, based on in-game description:

    Leading the Charge - 0 Yellow AP (PASSIVE):
    (PASSIVE) Rogue's superhuman durability makes a great frontline fighter and a tough target for her enemies.  
    Level 1: As long as Rogue is in front, she takes 10% less damage from enemy matches for each teammate still in the fight.  Whenever the enemy makes a Green, Red, or Yellow match, send Rogue to the front.
    Level 2: ... she takes 15% less damage from enemy matches for each teammate still in the fight.
    Level 3: ... she takes 20% less damage from enemy matches for each teammate still in the fight.
    Level 4: ... she takes 20% less damage from enemy matches and powers for each teammate still in the fight
    Level 5: ... she takes 25% less damage from enemy matches and powers for each teammate still in the fight.

    This is what I saw in-game. Unless they did a stealth change after you posted this, it's quite clear that only she takes reduced damage. Her power description in the forum might not be clear.

    I think it's likely that if minions' powers deal damages before they lay down the countdown tiles, her ability would reduce the damages. So, we need a definition of what "power" is and what "power" is not.

    I checked in-game, on the wiki, and on the forums before I made this thread, and the description was definitely different (look to my previous post).
  • NeonBlueNeonBlue Posts: 99 Match Maker
    edited May 19
    @Brigby ;

    I'm 99.99% sure that when I made this thread, the description was different. Then I made this post:

    NeonBlue said:
    Quebbster said:
    Pretty sure Rogue only reduces damage to herself, not to allies. Can't say how it works against goons, but I do know she only reduces damage from matches and Powers, not from other sources like attack tiles.
    If that's true about only her taking reduced damage, then the wording for the ability is unnecessarily confusing. It states "As long as Rogue is in front, enemy matches deal 10% less damage for each teammate still in the fight." Why couldn't they have just said, "As long as Rogue is in front, she takes 10% less damage from enemy matches (and powers) for each teammate still in the fight." 
    Now the in-game description has become what I wrote in the above post. I just want to ask if I was hallucinating this whole time, or if the devs actually changed the description. Please help 
  • BrigbyBrigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 4,423 Site Admin
    NeonBlue said:
    Brigby 

    I'm 99.99% sure that when I made this thread, the description was different. Then I made this post:

    NeonBlue said:
    Quebbster said:
    Pretty sure Rogue only reduces damage to herself, not to allies. Can't say how it works against goons, but I do know she only reduces damage from matches and Powers, not from other sources like attack tiles.
    If that's true about only her taking reduced damage, then the wording for the ability is unnecessarily confusing. It states "As long as Rogue is in front, enemy matches deal 10% less damage for each teammate still in the fight." Why couldn't they have just said, "As long as Rogue is in front, she takes 10% less damage from enemy matches (and powers) for each teammate still in the fight." 
    Now the in-game description has become what I wrote in the above post. I just want to ask if I was hallucinating this whole time, or if the devs actually changed the description. Please help 
    I'm personally unaware of any changes to her description, but who knows! Maybe they saw your post and thought the way you worded it provided more clarity :)
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