Bring back Quick Battle

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  • Froggy
    Froggy Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    edited April 2018
    Yes
    I voted yes. I am not in favor of the guaranteed mythic and a bizillion crystals for top place.

    But I voted yes because I need runes. And better crystal rewards too! I think everyone does. So I want QB back. It does not need to be exactly the same. But TG sucks.

    So if people are not interested in OP play styles, make something to separate out Standard and Legacy.

    What I would really like:

    1. Training Grounds in STANDARD. Make each win 300 runes. And if you win 10 games straight, 5 crystals or something. (Orbs is a bad idea - but if you can grind on crystals, you can open card packs and there’s your orbs).

    2. Quick Battle in Legacy, where you can grind on legacy decks. Give this less runes for all I care and no crystal bonuses. But it allows one to have a place to try out legacy for events where this is needed.

    So yes, I want QB back. But not as it was in the past. Lower the stakes and prizes and you avoid the competitive frenzy that some people can get into.
  • Sirchombli
    Sirchombli Posts: 322 Mover and Shaker
    This poll is dumb
    Here goes . I liked qb towards the end. I had some decent stuff. I won more than I lost . I hated qb when I was new . I was getting wrecked by everything. Everything . Qb wasn't good for the game . It's really the only instance I can think of as a case of "the rich get richer". It was brutal for newer players. That said ,we need some means to grind runes which is engaging. Maybe that just means expanding tg beyond 4 matches. Maybe that means more runes per match. All I know is that the original rewards structure was too generous and now we've gone far in the other direction . The reason I voted this poll is ststupid is because they know we want it back . I just don't see it happening. They just need to give us a better replacement 
  • Theros
    Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
    No
    The poll is confusing. Some people that voted NO did so not because they don't like QB but some aspects of it. Some people voted YES for the sake runes and some voted YES but hate some aspect of QB.
    Both YES's and NO's are more or less the same. People who have voted maybe are ambivalent. Who among them lean toward NO or YES.
    I used to run a top 35 coalition.  QB created a situation in which once a player gain momentum playing QB, she/he has not time to contribute to coalition events. A 5 minutes distraction would make you lose your momentum, top rewards and waste hours of lifeless grinding. 


  • Froggy
    Froggy Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    edited May 2018
    Yes
    Well, thank you devs and Oktagon for at least promising that there will be a Standard/Legacy version of Training Grounds.

    I hope it will be with us soon and I hope it is well thought through so the MAJORITY player base can benefit from it.
  • Kinesia
    Kinesia Posts: 1,621 Chairperson of the Boards
    No
    @MADAFAKA Perhaps the poll needs to take this into account and have a few different options of _why_ for each question. (including, "other reason")
  • Furks
    Furks Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    Yes
    It seems that what people really want is something that is always there. Something endlessly repeatable that rewards a fair amount of runes. Something without special rules.

    It's not really that complicated...

    Let quick battle reward 300 runes/win. (you can still have a bonus for the first 4 matches)

    On top of that, add a second 'standard' quick battle. Have both of these running at all times. 


    On the topic of runes, their only use is lvling planeswalkers and buying deck slots. They aren't being monetized outside of 'deals', where they always seem like an afterthought anyway. D3GO should really be less stingy with these, it's fine for people to be swimming in them. Crystals and gems are the premium currencies. 
  • Furks
    Furks Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    Yes
    I want to add to the topic of runes. It takes the average pw around 160000 runes to level to max. With training grounds rewarding 300 runes per win, that would still require 533 wins to reach max level. 
  • James13
    James13 Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    No
    I have a totally alternative solution to rune income.

    Adjust the runes obtained for dupe cards up by a multiplier.  Say 5x or more what's awarded now.  It's always been crazy low.  There's no reason for it to be on-par with the much more valuable orb currency.

    Done.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2018
    No
     babar3355 said:
    Gunmix25 said:


    1. What ultimately is the point here? 

    A. You feel you need more rewards?... and/or
    B. You feel you need more content? ... and/or
    C. The excitement of high speed limitless play is missing? ... and/or
    D. .... something else that I am not understanding?

    Truly curious. 


    Can I take this Survey? A. Yes!  B. Yes! C. No! D.Probably not..

    I actually agree with you that I don't think going back to QB is the right answer, but we DEFINITELY need more content.  1 worthwhile event per week and AX/TG is simply not enough.  And we are definitely feeling resource starved.

    Players want there ALWAYS to be something worthwhile to do in game.  Grinding QB could result in mythic and rare prizes with crystals, packs,  and lots of runes.  There is literally nothing to do after you collect your AX and TG rewards most days now... I guess you can TotP for an extra 8 games.  

    However, I don't think going back in the past is the best solution. Your points are well taken and I always hated QB personally. (Same deck over and over for hours on end... yuck).  Instead they need a new solution to provide content to players, not the same old formula.


    gah! I thought I had responded to this. My bad, man.

    A. I agree but a balance must be had. Too rich and the game will lose both its lust for prizes (as we would become accustomed to having prizes handed to us and the game would start losing income.

    b. This is something i wholeheartedly agree with. We need content and a variation thereof.

    c. I hated the all-high-speed-builds that one faced in QB. You can only make so many and eventually you faced the same builds over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over [ ad infinitum ]

    D. whew.. I'm in the clear! :D


  • ROYGBV00
    ROYGBV00 Posts: 37 Just Dropped In
    Yes
    Just make QB a rune grinder, with no added benefits.  500 runes is fair, given the STUPID INSANITY that is KARN.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    No
    ROYGBV00 said:
    Just make QB a rune grinder, with no added benefits.  500 runes is fair, given the STUPID INSANITY that is KARN.

    And Bolas.
  • Kinesia
    Kinesia Posts: 1,621 Chairperson of the Boards
    No
    Brigby said:
    Kinesia said:
    MADAFAKA Perhaps the poll needs to take this into account and have a few different options of _why_ for each question. (including, "other reason")
    We actually want poll options to stay as basic and concise as possible, and instead for players to explain their reasoning in the comments section. This is to prevent poll options from having either way too many options, which can get confusing quickly, or from having polls with biased reasoning attached to each option.

    I understand. But the important part of a poll should show up looking at the results without reading the comments, and here you'd get the wrong idea if you did that because people are going:

    Yes, but only because I want this one thing.
    or
    No, but I do want this one thing from it.


    So the yes/no part is broken and the useful information about "what thing?" isn't collected.

    You instead need a poll like "Which aspect of QB would you consider to be the most important in designing a new version of QB?" because that's the actual relevant information, not whether people want it back or not.


  • ZW2007-
    ZW2007- Posts: 812 Critical Contributor
    No opinion
    I don't miss QB but its absence has surely been noticed, especially in recent months. I know it would be very easy to re-implement QB but I'd love it if they did this instead: https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/59718/new-game-mode-idea-planechase

    We have an all new dev team since that thread was created, maybe Oktagon is more willing and able to pull it off? I triple dog dare you Oktagon.
  • Froggy
    Froggy Posts: 511 Critical Contributor
    Yes
    ZW2007- said:
    I don't miss QB but its absence has surely been noticed, especially in recent months. I know it would be very easy to re-implement QB but I'd love it if they did this instead: https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/59718/new-game-mode-idea-planechase

    We have an all new dev team since that thread was created, maybe Oktagon is more willing and able to pull it off? I triple dog dare you Oktagon.
    That’s incredible! Maybe @Brigby could bring this up to the devs in a new unit of time. It would be a radical change in... pretty much everything. And we’d be busy for a while exploring this. At least I would. 
  • UweTellkampf
    UweTellkampf Posts: 376 Mover and Shaker
    No
    It would murder my life.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    No
    UweTellkampf said:
    It would murder my life.
    ... grind it into hamburger and @FindingHeart18 and I would feel compelled to start up a MTGPQ burger grill selling Uwe-burgers with QB-Cheese and lovingly topped with bacon. Because you, good sir, look like a bacon kind of guy.  :D 
  • bk1234
    bk1234 Posts: 2,924 Chairperson of the Boards
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  • Thuran
    Thuran Posts: 456 Mover and Shaker
    Yes
    Yes! But limit max number of matches that count towards rewards, or have it be runes only.

    We don't want a repeat of an event which forces people to either cheese it or grind dozebs , if not hundreds of games for a shot at the prize. Maybe have it go that only your first 25 games count towards the prize, but you can keep playing for runes or suchlike.

    We need infinite content, but in a way that players don't feel forced to play it overly much for it to be worth it

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