Support Stats Thread

notamutant
notamutant Posts: 855 Critical Contributor
in MPQ Supports Discussion
Hey all, maybe this should be moved by the mods, and sorry if I missed a thread for this already, but I figured we should try to start compiling data on the supports. From my research so far, the improvements seem pretty linear overall for the first 50 levels of at least the Avengers Tower support. My apologies if the formatting is bad, I have no clue how to use tables in the forum. I just copy pasted from my Excel file. Total cost to level through 50 is 20,822.

iso cost level avengers tower perk 1 avengers tower perk 2 avengers tower perk 3 avengers tower perk 4 avengers tower perk 5 avengers tower perk 6
1 5.00% 8.00% 16 15 10.00% 20.00%
11 2 5.22% 8.24% 17 16 10.20% 20.26%
25 3 5.44% 8.48% 18 17 10.40% 20.52%
40 4 5.66% 8.72% 18 17 10.60% 20.78%
55 5 5.88% 8.96% 19 18 10.80% 21.04%
71 6 6.10% 9.19% 19 18 11.00% 21.31%
87 7 6.33% 9.43% 20 19 11.20% 21.57%
103 8 6.55% 9.67% 21 20 11.41% 21.83%
120 9 6.77% 9.91% 21 20 11.61% 22.09%
136 10 6.99% 10.15% 22 21 11.81% 22.35%
153 11 7.21% 10.39% 23 21 12.01% 22.61%
170 12 7.43% 10.63% 23 22 12.21% 22.87%
187 13 7.65% 10.87% 24 22 12.41% 23.13%
204 14 7.87% 11.11% 24 23 12.61% 23.39%
221 15 8.09% 11.35% 25 24 12.81% 23.65%
238 16 8.31% 11.58% 26 24 13.01% 23.92%
256 17 8.53% 11.82% 26 25 13.21% 24.18%
273 18 8.76% 12.06% 27 25 13.41% 24.44%
291 19 8.98% 12.30% 27 26 13.61% 24.70%
309 20 9.20% 12.54% 28 27 13.82% 24.96%
327 21 9.42% 12.78% 29 27 14.02% 25.22%
345 22 9.64% 13.02% 29 28 14.22% 25.48%
363 23 9.86% 13.26% 30 28 14.42% 25.74%
381 24 10.08% 13.50% 31 29 14.62% 26.00%
399 25 10.30% 13.73% 31 30 14.82% 26.27%
417 26 10.52% 13.97% 32 30 15.02% 26.53%
435 27 10.74% 14.21% 32 31 15.22% 26.79%
454 28 10.96% 14.45% 33 31 15.42% 27.05%
472 29 11.18% 14.69% 34 32 15.62% 27.31%
491 30 11.41% 14.93% 34 32 15.82% 27.57%
509 31 11.63% 15.17% 35 33 16.02% 27.83%
528 32 11.85% 15.41% 36 34 16.22% 28.09%
547 33 12.07% 15.65% 36 34 16.43% 28.35%
566 34 12.29% 15.89% 37 35 16.63% 28.61%
584 35 12.51% 16.12% 37 35 16.83% 28.88%
603 36 12.73% 16.36% 38 36 17.03% 29.14%
622 37 12.95% 16.60% 39 37 17.23% 29.40%
641 38 13.17% 16.84% 39 37 17.43% 29.66%
660 39 13.39% 17.08% 40 38 17.63% 29.92%
679 40 13.61% 17.32% 41 38 17.83% 30.18%
698 41 13.84% 17.56% 41 39 18.03% 30.44%
717 42 14.06% 17.80% 42 39 18.23% 30.70%
737 43 14.28% 18.04% 42 40 18.43% 30.96%
756 44 14.50% 18.28% 43 41 18.63% 31.22%
775 45 14.72% 18.51% 44 41 18.84% 31.49%
794 46 14.94% 18.75% 44 42 19.04% 31.75%
814 47 15.16% 18.99% 45 42 19.24% 32.01%
833 48 15.38% 19.23% 46 43 19.44% 32.27%
853 49 15.60% 19.47% 46 44 19.64% 32.53%
872 50 15.82% 19.71% 47 44 19.84% 32.79%

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Comments

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm not sure if it would help to take a screenshot of your excel and upload it as a jpeg here. What's more important is thank you for sharing your result with the community.

    I assume that the sneak peak of Chimichangas are at level 250 (Rank 5). 
  • ursopro
    ursopro Posts: 334 Mover and Shaker
    Avengers Tower LVL50


    Element Guns LVL50


    Hydra Henchmen LVL50


    Vintage Shield LVL50




  • jamesh
    jamesh Posts: 1,600 Chairperson of the Boards
    How'd you get enough red iso to get these screenshots?
  • Shintok17
    Shintok17 Posts: 620 Critical Contributor
    So these are estimates of what they will be since no one can reach those levels with the Red Iso provided at the moment. 
  • Shintok17
    Shintok17 Posts: 620 Critical Contributor
    notamutant said:
    Shintok17 said:
    So these are estimates of what they will be since no one can reach those levels with the Red Iso provided at the moment. 

    Right... just estimates... definitely going to have to wait for the sand of time to tick down until we can really try this feature out of the box.
    Would of been nice if they would of done it for us ahead of time, so can invest our Red Iso accordingly. Thanks for doing the work. 
  • babinro
    babinro Posts: 771 Critical Contributor
    Based on what we've seen...IMO its all about those guns.

    Rank 5 granting 29.25% chance at +3 Green AP when equipped to a skill spammer like Gambit seems reasonably strong.  Especially when you traditionally pair gambit with Thor, Bolt or Thanos.
  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,657 Chairperson of the Boards
    notamutant said:
    Shintok17 said:
    So these are estimates of what they will be since no one can reach those levels with the Red Iso provided at the moment. 

    Right... just estimates... definitely going to have to wait for the sand of time to tick down until we can really try this feature out of the box.
    Doesn't matter actually - there's no way to get tokens or Red Iso in the game at the moment, so we just have to extrapolate based on what's there.  Once there's some means, then we'll get more solid data.
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited April 2018
    GrimSkald said:
    notamutant said:
    Shintok17 said:
    So these are estimates of what they will be since no one can reach those levels with the Red Iso provided at the moment. 

    Right... just estimates... definitely going to have to wait for the sand of time to tick down until we can really try this feature out of the box.
    Doesn't matter actually - there's no way to get tokens or Red Iso in the game at the moment, so we just have to extrapolate based on what's there.  Once there's some means, then we'll get more solid data.
    As of now there is now a vault "Welcome to Supports" and 2 H4H offerings with Red ISO and Support tokens.  I bought the cheaper H4H and after the duplicates I have 12,000 Red ISO.

    The leveling definately isn't linear (I figured as much).  It's showing the max level I can hit is 38 for 11,634 which is WAY more than 641 shown for level 38 in the OP.

    EDIT:  I'm a big dummy, you need to add those up.  Based on above the prediction was 10,993 to get L38, it's actually 11,634.  So not linear, but not as far off as I was thinking.  We'll see how much that changes in upper levels.

  • notamutant
    notamutant Posts: 855 Critical Contributor
    broll said:
    GrimSkald said:
    notamutant said:
    Shintok17 said:
    So these are estimates of what they will be since no one can reach those levels with the Red Iso provided at the moment. 

    Right... just estimates... definitely going to have to wait for the sand of time to tick down until we can really try this feature out of the box.
    Doesn't matter actually - there's no way to get tokens or Red Iso in the game at the moment, so we just have to extrapolate based on what's there.  Once there's some means, then we'll get more solid data.
    As of now there is now a vault "Welcome to Supports" and 2 H4H offerings with Red ISO and Support tokens.  I bought the cheaper H4H and after the duplicates I have 12,000 Red ISO.

    The leveling definately isn't linear (I figured as much).  It's showing the max level I can hit is 38 for 11,634 which is WAY more than 641 shown for level 38 in the OP.

    EDIT:  I'm a big dummy, you need to add those up.  Based on above the prediction was 10,993 to get L38, it's actually 11,634.  So not linear, but not as far off as I was thinking.  We'll see how much that changes in upper levels.

    Actually, it was exactly 11,634 per my above calculations. In case no one got my hint, those weren't really predictions. You can copy and paste the above into Excel if you want to play around with the data. Now that we can buy more, maybe I can see if the progression stops being linear as you increase rank.
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    notamutant said:
    broll said:
    GrimSkald said:
    notamutant said:
    Shintok17 said:
    So these are estimates of what they will be since no one can reach those levels with the Red Iso provided at the moment. 

    Right... just estimates... definitely going to have to wait for the sand of time to tick down until we can really try this feature out of the box.
    Doesn't matter actually - there's no way to get tokens or Red Iso in the game at the moment, so we just have to extrapolate based on what's there.  Once there's some means, then we'll get more solid data.
    As of now there is now a vault "Welcome to Supports" and 2 H4H offerings with Red ISO and Support tokens.  I bought the cheaper H4H and after the duplicates I have 12,000 Red ISO.

    The leveling definately isn't linear (I figured as much).  It's showing the max level I can hit is 38 for 11,634 which is WAY more than 641 shown for level 38 in the OP.

    EDIT:  I'm a big dummy, you need to add those up.  Based on above the prediction was 10,993 to get L38, it's actually 11,634.  So not linear, but not as far off as I was thinking.  We'll see how much that changes in upper levels.

    Actually, it was exactly 11,634 per my above calculations. In case no one got my hint, those weren't really predictions. You can copy and paste the above into Excel if you want to play around with the data. Now that we can buy more, maybe I can see if the progression stops being linear as you increase rank.
    Oh yeah, I copied it into excel but missed the last one.  

    I would add a column for total iso cost to save people from having to copy it into excel to figure it out and making dumb mistakes like me.  Save us from ourselves!
  • Figure15
    Figure15 Posts: 284 Mover and Shaker
    edited April 2018
    More interested in cost for me. So extrapolating numbers its about 560k for 250, similar to a champ 5.


  • notamutant
    notamutant Posts: 855 Critical Contributor
    broll said:
    notamutant said:
    broll said:
    GrimSkald said:
    notamutant said:
    Shintok17 said:
    So these are estimates of what they will be since no one can reach those levels with the Red Iso provided at the moment. 

    Right... just estimates... definitely going to have to wait for the sand of time to tick down until we can really try this feature out of the box.
    Doesn't matter actually - there's no way to get tokens or Red Iso in the game at the moment, so we just have to extrapolate based on what's there.  Once there's some means, then we'll get more solid data.
    As of now there is now a vault "Welcome to Supports" and 2 H4H offerings with Red ISO and Support tokens.  I bought the cheaper H4H and after the duplicates I have 12,000 Red ISO.

    The leveling definately isn't linear (I figured as much).  It's showing the max level I can hit is 38 for 11,634 which is WAY more than 641 shown for level 38 in the OP.

    EDIT:  I'm a big dummy, you need to add those up.  Based on above the prediction was 10,993 to get L38, it's actually 11,634.  So not linear, but not as far off as I was thinking.  We'll see how much that changes in upper levels.

    Actually, it was exactly 11,634 per my above calculations. In case no one got my hint, those weren't really predictions. You can copy and paste the above into Excel if you want to play around with the data. Now that we can buy more, maybe I can see if the progression stops being linear as you increase rank.
    Oh yeah, I copied it into excel but missed the last one.  

    I would add a column for total iso cost to save people from having to copy it into excel to figure it out and making dumb mistakes like me.  Save us from ourselves!


    I almost did that, but I felt like it was already too many columns to fit on the forum. I also had some hidden columns to see percentage and absolute change from level to level. If I knew how to use those sharable spreadsheets like others, I would just put it there so we could crowdsource it and I wouldn't have to do all 250 levels for each support by myself. The only one I know of though is Google sheets, and that is attached to your personal account.


    I figure at some point we will determine they all follow one of a certain number of standard formulas for progression, so we can just estimate ending values, but it is possible each one will be unique.

  • Basepuzzler
    Basepuzzler Posts: 180 Tile Toppler
    ANyone have any lvl 250 stats now that those bundles are there?
  • Orion
    Orion Posts: 1,295 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm also interested in the amount of rISO you get for pulling a duplicate.

    I got 1400 rISO for pulling a rank 1 dupe
    I got 7000 rISO for pulling a rank 2 dupe

    Those seem like decent amounts compared to what you can earn daily for missions and PvP rewards.
  • Basepuzzler
    Basepuzzler Posts: 180 Tile Toppler
    Brigby updated that in one of the other threads
  • Orion
    Orion Posts: 1,295 Chairperson of the Boards
    Basepuzzler said:
    Brigby updated that in one of the other threads
    So he did.  But I could have sworn that I got 7000 for a dupe rank 2 support and not 7400 like he wrote.

    @Brigby am I wrong or was that a typo?
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    Orion said:
    I'm also interested in the amount of rISO you get for pulling a duplicate.

    I got 1400 rISO for pulling a rank 1 dupe
    I got 7000 rISO for pulling a rank 2 dupe

    Those seem like decent amounts compared to what you can earn daily for missions and PvP rewards.
    I noticed that too.  It seems like it's reverse of the meta for purple ISO where you're supposed to get the bulk of your ISO through dups (or that covers are gonna be incredibly rare)
  • Player1575
    Player1575 Posts: 253 Mover and Shaker
    For those wondering... 
    Rank 1 dupes = 1400 red iso
    Rank 2 dupes = 7000 red iso
    Rank 3 dupes = 12000 red iso
    Rank 4 dupes = 16000 red iso

    Haven't seen anyone get a rank 5 dupe yet, but something tells me it'll be 20000 red iso.
  • Kahmon
    Kahmon Posts: 625 Critical Contributor
    Lucky the pizza dog  @level 45:

    R1: prevents 126
    r2: 21.37% chance of 273
    r3: 11,77% chance by 52
    r4: crits by 0.5
    r5: 47

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