Kinesia said: Given the nature of the event I'd really like to see the immortal sun be to 1000 point progression reward.
Rhasget said: How much time besides the actual playing time do you spend on the game in the top coalitions?I'm in a semi-casual one, playing everything, every day but mostly with the same decks. So my time spent is pretty much the time it takes to finish my matches. Some deck building but not much when I find my comfortable selection where I can place top with the right luck or, as most times, somewhere between spot 25-100.And then some small chat in out discord when something new comes up but not any long discussions.
Nalthazar said: After reading a number of the posts in this thread, I thought it would be good for me to post something for all of you who are feeling let down by not "having access" to rewards that are currently only available to players in the top 10 coalitions. I am a member of MTGGOLDFISH, which is currently in the top 10. When I joined, they line family. We worked hard as a group to become a top 5 coalition consistently and catapult ourselves into the top 10 list. Honestly, when it comes to "applying" for a spot, we have never really had an "application" system, and if you look at groups like the power 9, there are plenty of spaces available for individuals and groups to play this game at a top 10 level. Many of the top coalitions are actually composed of many subsidiary coalitions where players swap around based on what they can contribute to events given their available time and what they are likely to produce points-wise. In the year plus that I have been with MTGGOLDFISH we have introduced many new members to our community and even absorbed other groups of people who were looking for more competitive opportunities. As a result of this, our family has grown. I know this to be true in other top 10 coalitions too as many of us are in contact with each other and are friends too. The coalition system in this game has brought hundreds of people together who love this game and want to compete for top placement and top rewards. This game having rewards for coalitions is one of the things that drives us as a group to succeed.If you want to start earning rewards for being in a top 10 coalition, here are my suggestions for you:1.) Work hard like we did to recruit a group of 20 players who will play in each event. You can do this by recruiting on these very forums! You will honestly want to have more than 20 so that you can provide some wiggle room for your players so the game stays a game and does not become a second job. We earned our spot, and every week we all earn our places by playing this game and communicating with each other. You can do it too. If you don't want to join 'em, beat them.2.) Join a top 10 group either by yourself or with a group of your buddies. Many groups in the top 10 are consistently looking for new players to join their ranks. It honestly doesn't really matter what tier you are in. I joined GOLDFISH while I was in Silver and I know many of our players who joined in Bronze and have had their collections expand as a part of being in our group. To conclude this, if you are a player or a group of players lost by the wayside, and you are looking for a way to become competitively relevant in this game, just let a player in one of the top groups know and they will likely direct you to a path to help you succeed. Some people in the top 10 are nicer and some are less kind, so if you fail at first, try another group. You may not see it yet, but there is a community here. At the very worst, you can contact me, and as long as I don't get some absurd number of responses to this, I can try to help find you a home in a top group either as a developing player or as a player who is looking to jump right into the fray. While I commend you on your well thought out post. It still has no bearing on what I was pointing out. The easiest way to say this is D3/Oktagon set up a reward in much the same fashion of setting up say... the superbowl.... but the highschool teams and colleges have a shot at it too. Top 10/or/12 being the NFL. While one player simply states that my coalition and others are simply too lazy to meet the demands of the event... Bken was spot on about the fact that we do work hard to meet those scores... but we also know they're all but almost unattainable despite us trying our best. If it was so easy as many top ten players have tried to point out in this discussion ... the coalition scores in events would be fluctuating far more, but they don't and the evidence supports that fact as well. The posts in here about rewarding indivual effort more and have coalition scores be secondary is an excellent idea. Don't get me wrong, the top ten coalitions have done a fantastic job in what they do. The fault was never them, but in the devs in their decision to set up a reward that has been all but decided from the get go. If they want to make such events for the long term. Then i suggest that they make events locked to the top 20, top 21 to 40, top 41 to 60 and so on. Still rewarding the top ten. That kind of an event would be intense and exciting. Not feeling like a highschool football team about to face the NFL.
Nalthazar said: After reading a number of the posts in this thread, I thought it would be good for me to post something for all of you who are feeling let down by not "having access" to rewards that are currently only available to players in the top 10 coalitions. I am a member of MTGGOLDFISH, which is currently in the top 10. When I joined, they line family. We worked hard as a group to become a top 5 coalition consistently and catapult ourselves into the top 10 list. Honestly, when it comes to "applying" for a spot, we have never really had an "application" system, and if you look at groups like the power 9, there are plenty of spaces available for individuals and groups to play this game at a top 10 level. Many of the top coalitions are actually composed of many subsidiary coalitions where players swap around based on what they can contribute to events given their available time and what they are likely to produce points-wise. In the year plus that I have been with MTGGOLDFISH we have introduced many new members to our community and even absorbed other groups of people who were looking for more competitive opportunities. As a result of this, our family has grown. I know this to be true in other top 10 coalitions too as many of us are in contact with each other and are friends too. The coalition system in this game has brought hundreds of people together who love this game and want to compete for top placement and top rewards. This game having rewards for coalitions is one of the things that drives us as a group to succeed.If you want to start earning rewards for being in a top 10 coalition, here are my suggestions for you:1.) Work hard like we did to recruit a group of 20 players who will play in each event. You can do this by recruiting on these very forums! You will honestly want to have more than 20 so that you can provide some wiggle room for your players so the game stays a game and does not become a second job. We earned our spot, and every week we all earn our places by playing this game and communicating with each other. You can do it too. If you don't want to join 'em, beat them.2.) Join a top 10 group either by yourself or with a group of your buddies. Many groups in the top 10 are consistently looking for new players to join their ranks. It honestly doesn't really matter what tier you are in. I joined GOLDFISH while I was in Silver and I know many of our players who joined in Bronze and have had their collections expand as a part of being in our group. To conclude this, if you are a player or a group of players lost by the wayside, and you are looking for a way to become competitively relevant in this game, just let a player in one of the top groups know and they will likely direct you to a path to help you succeed. Some people in the top 10 are nicer and some are less kind, so if you fail at first, try another group. You may not see it yet, but there is a community here. At the very worst, you can contact me, and as long as I don't get some absurd number of responses to this, I can try to help find you a home in a top group either as a developing player or as a player who is looking to jump right into the fray.
Nalthazar said: After reading a number of the posts in this thread, I thought it would be good for me to post something for all of you who are feeling let down by not "having access" to rewards that are currently only available to players in the top 10 coalitions. I am a member of MTGGOLDFISH, which is currently in the top 10. When I joined, they were a fringe group outside the top 10 composed a a close-knit group of players that are almost like an online family. We worked hard as a group to become a top 5 coalition consistently and catapult ourselves into the top 10 list. Honestly, when it comes to "applying" for a spot, we have never really had an "application" system, and if you look at groups like the power 9, there are plenty of spaces available for individuals and groups to play this game at a top 10 level. Many of the top coalitions are actually composed of many subsidiary coalitions where players swap around based on what they can contribute to events given their available time and what they are likely to produce points-wise. In the year plus that I have been with MTGGOLDFISH we have introduced many new members to our community and even absorbed other groups of people who were looking for more competitive opportunities. As a result of this, our family has grown. I know this to be true in other top 10 coalitions too as many of us are in contact with each other and are friends too. The coalition system in this game has brought hundreds of people together who love this game and want to compete for top placement and top rewards. This game having rewards for coalitions is one of the things that drives us as a group to succeed.If you want to start earning rewards for being in a top 10 coalition, here are my suggestions for you:1.) Work hard like we did to recruit a group of 20 players who will play in each event. You can do this by recruiting on these very forums! You will honestly want to have more than 20 so that you can provide some wiggle room for your players so the game stays a game and does not become a second job. We earned our spot, and every week we all earn our places by playing this game and communicating with each other. You can do it too. If you don't want to join 'em, beat them.2.) Join a top 10 group either by yourself or with a group of your buddies. Many groups in the top 10 are consistently looking for new players to join their ranks. It honestly doesn't really matter what tier you are in. I joined GOLDFISH while I was in Silver and I know many of our players who joined in Bronze and have had their collections expand as a part of being in our group. To conclude this, if you are a player or a group of players lost by the wayside, and you are looking for a way to become competitively relevant in this game, just let a player in one of the top groups know and they will likely direct you to a path to help you succeed. Some people in the top 10 are nicer and some are less kind, so if you fail at first, try another group. You may not see it yet, but there is a community here. At the very worst, you can contact me, and as long as I don't get some absurd number of responses to this, I can try to help find you a home in a top group either as a developing player or as a player who is looking to jump right into the fray.
Laeuftbeidir said: .. Because that's how competition works? You don't hand out prices to those who you thought have put more effort into it - you hand them out based on results. And results in team sports are mostly achieved by organization. But effort helps people to step up. The system is open - if you want those prices, there is a way, and it's not by constant nagging and promoting an us or them mentality. That's something nobody here really needs. You don't like the fact that the top ten teams got a way better then average price? Then complain about the reward structure and don't actively try to tinikitty off people. On the other hand - the reward is actually somehow too good in current times. A guaranteed rare! That price has been fair IMO. Make the card at least non - exclusive, so people can get it from boosters as well.
Laeuftbeidir said:Still, my point remains valid : don't take something like this reward to attack other players. We were not responsive at all, and the op didn't even try to establish a productive discussion. I'd rather prefer having the guaranteed rares back, tbh.
Laeuftbeidir said: That's why we look actively for new players, help them regarding their strategies, answer questions, show them how to compete, etc. And not just us, all of the top coalition groups. The top team that earns the best rewards is their motivation to get better. The big nerf in top rewards was the thing that actually did hurt us a lot, since it took away one of the key reasons why newer players wanted to join us. You can't imagine from the outside how motivating this reward was particulary for the mid-range players, resulting in a totally different player constellation for the next run - it's always important to be able to see things from a different angle. Still, my point remains valid : don't take something like this reward to attack other players. We were not responsive at all, and the op didn't even try to establish a productive discussion. I'd rather prefer having the guaranteed rares back, tbh.