Path of Mettle does nothing [Fixed]

wereotter
wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
I played this on a board with three humans and my opponent had Gaea's Revenge in play.

It did not give my humans first strike, and did no damage to Gaea's Revenge.

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  • Krishna
    Krishna Posts: 205 Tile Toppler
    yep. fill out a ticket in-game, hope it gets fixed soon
  • hawkyh1
    hawkyh1 Posts: 780 Critical Contributor
    I managed to get first strike on both my human and dino.
    it gave my opponent pirate first strike instead of dealing
    3 damage.

    HH
  • Magic:PQ Support Team
    Magic:PQ Support Team ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 3,485 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thank you for your feedback.
    We will verify the Card and check the specific situation that wereotter has described.
  • Bullvinne
    Bullvinne Posts: 77 Match Maker
    edited March 2018
    @Octagon_Daiane is the behavior where it wont function on your creatures unless there is an enemy to damage out intended?

    If so, then the wording needs to be changed on the card. Something like "Deal 3 damage to each non-dino/human, THEN give each Dino/Human First Strike. If you have 3 creatures with First Strike, transform this support."

    That way it is understood to work that way, as it is worded now, it seems like it should give your creatures first strike no matter what.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    hawkyh1 said:
    I managed to get first strike on both my human and dino.
    it gave my opponent pirate first strike instead of dealing
    3 damage.

    HH
    If your opponent's pirate was human, then this would be correct functionality of the card.
  • Magic:PQ Support Team
    Magic:PQ Support Team ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 3,485 Chairperson of the Boards
    After the internal verification is done, we will work on the issue, and update the Card as soon as possible. 

    Thanks again for all your feedback!
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    It would seem Path of Mettle does not give my dinos first strike unless there is a non-dino out to be pinged.

    At first I thought it was a bug that it would not trigger its ETB on reinforce, but now I realized that's not it.

    Anyone else having this issue?
  • Aeroplane
    Aeroplane Posts: 314 Mover and Shaker
    it never gives first strike to anything. 
  • Aeroplane
    Aeroplane Posts: 314 Mover and Shaker
    It has the same function problem as Burning Sun's Avatar. It won't damage the planeswalker unless there's a creature on the board.
  • Kinesia
    Kinesia Posts: 1,621 Chairperson of the Boards
    @Mburn7 is correct @Aeroplane is not, there is another bug thread on this too.
  • gogol666
    gogol666 Posts: 316 Mover and Shaker
    In my experience, path to mettle works only the first time it is cast. When it is reinforced it does not give first strike not damages. According to the wording, this is a correct behavior, because both effects are only on enter the battlefield. However, this makes the card borderline unplayable, because it is only effective if you cast it when youhave three creatures on the battlefield and they survive until the end of the turn.
    Making the effects working on reinforce, too, would really solve the problem.
  • gogol666
    gogol666 Posts: 316 Mover and Shaker
    In  my experience, path to mettle works only the first time it is cast. When it is reinforced it does not give first strike nor damages. According to the wording, this is a correct behavior, because both effects are only on enter the battlefield. However, this makes the card borderline unplayable, because it is only effective if you cast it when youhave three creatures on the battlefield and they survive until the end of the turn.
    Making the effects working on reinforce, too, would really solve the problem.
  • Aeroplane
    Aeroplane Posts: 314 Mover and Shaker
    It could be conditional on doing the 3 damage before giving first strike like the dinosaur that does 6 damage to creature and planeswalker.
  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    Other etb effects do trigger on reinforcement though. Mostly creatures, but I know for a fact that Cartouche of Ambition's -1/-1 works upon casting a second copy (while the first is still in play).
  • hawkyh1
    hawkyh1 Posts: 780 Critical Contributor
    from my experience you need to have an opponent creature
    for your creatures to receive any buffs.

    HH
  • Ciotog
    Ciotog Posts: 77 Match Maker

    All ETB effects need to be able to happen for any of them to happen from what I've seen.  I've gotten it to give some of my creatures first strike when I found out that pirate tokens don't count as humans... damaged my tokens and gave the other critters first strike, no creatures on opponent's side.

    Still think the card is cool, and pretty powerful once you flip it, and borderline silly if you can flip it with Nyx out but that's a whole other thread.

  • gogol666
    gogol666 Posts: 316 Mover and Shaker
    I spent some more time testing mettle and I confirm it does nothing in following situations:
    2 dinos on my side alone, first cast
    1 dino on my side alone, first cast
    3 humans on my side, 2 dinos and 1 human on opponent side, first cast and reinforcement

    These three scenario suggests the card behavior is as follows:
    - do 3 damage to all non-human, non-dino
    - IF you did, give first strike to the other creatures
    - IF you have 3 creatures with first strike flip

    However, since the second effect is conditional to the first it is very difficult to make it happen unless you have all the conditions on your side: i.e., one non-human, non-dino first striker and two creatures between humans and dinos
  • Jonster78
    Jonster78 Posts: 56 Match Maker
    Should it also work with double strikers? Double strike is first strike followed by a normal strike, so you would think it should. Also, does it flip if you independently give creatures 1st strike? Say if you have it out and cast the third creature and somehow give it first strike.
  • Bullvinne
    Bullvinne Posts: 77 Match Maker
    As-is, the only way I can see this card being useful if you build with (human/Dino) creatures that already have first strike. Giving your creautures first strike via this card is very difficult sometimes and not reliable enough to get it each game. 
  • hawkyh1
    hawkyh1 Posts: 780 Critical Contributor
    my recent testing suggests that you might need both
    human/dino and non human/dino for it to work.

    HH