Rivals of Ixalan - Blog Post (3/8/18)

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  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    Looks like they're actually giving the AI different levels for different circumstances, which is even better than I expected! The impression I got from Brigby's comment was that the AI would be better the higher the opponent's level as a general rule. He was talking about story mode and PvE events specifically though, PvP could be different.
  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    As I said earlier, I think handing out particular mythics as prizes can be fine depending on the mythic. If they keep the Immortal Sun similar to the paper card it'll give a minor boost to your creatures and spellcasting and prevent both players from using their Planeswalker's abilities. I think that would be more of an interesting shift in strategy than a game-breaker, so it would be fine as an event prize. Vanquisher's Banner and Fraying Sanity are both mythic as well, and neither would be a huge problem if they were given out as event prizes (I have both, and use neither, that's why I chose then as examples. There's plenty more non-Hour of Devastation mythics). I think giving out a random mythic from a given set is much more likely to be problematic.
  • THEMAGICkMAN
    THEMAGICkMAN Posts: 697 Critical Contributor
    I haven't heard anyone complain about lack of mythics or cry for their return as rewards for top 10 coalitions, it's a neat throwback in Avacyns Madness, but the playerbase has grown so much that top 100 is no small feat anymore. as I said earlier, I really really hope that The Immortal Sun is cosmetic, and doesn't have gameplay impact, since otherwise it could potentially put the vast majority of the playerbase at a disadvantage.
  • miss_zoey
    miss_zoey Posts: 17 Just Dropped In
    ElfNeedsFood said:
    AI should be dialed back at Gold or below but Platinum needed the buff. 
    I couldn't agree more!
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited March 2018
    THEMAGICkMAN said:
    I haven't heard anyone complain about lack of mythics or cry for their return as rewards for top 10 coalitions, it's a neat throwback in Avacyns Madness, but the playerbase has grown so much that top 100 is no small feat anymore. as I said earlier, I really really hope that The Immortal Sun is cosmetic, and doesn't have gameplay impact, since otherwise it could potentially put the vast majority of the playerbase at a disadvantage.
    Oh they have complained. It comes up periodically whenever prizes are mentioned and usually by the old guard.
    What it does isn't exactly cosmetic:

    Shutting down both Planeswalker abilities.

    Draw an additional card during your draw step

    All of your spells cost 1 less *** UPDATED 03/13/18 *** Card in PQ states "All of your spells cost 2 less"

    All of your creatures get +1/+1

    For what I estimate to be 10 mana support but likely cheaper because it is an exclusive... so maybe 7 or 8 mana. 

    That's a very nice support regardless.

    My issue is that Hibernium did this before and that led to a huge power gap amongst the elite and those that weren't. A little over a year ago there were many posts covering this very issue and the forums were very divided. Those that were privy to such prizes to us to just "tinykitty up, buttercup" those that weren't were livid because there was nothing we really could do to partake in a limited prize pool event unless someone dropped their spot and another fillled it within the top ten. In short, an exclusive for only the exclusive. Espwcially so if we use a 3000 coalition pool. Then to add insult to the injury, they play the event again and all get 750 orbs for a dupe if they replay within the 1st 30 days. 500 after. I would very much prefer that they got more card packs or just straight up 500 orbs for a standard event. If this was legacy, then yes! This would be fantastic. 
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    THEMAGICkMAN said:
    I haven't heard anyone complain about lack of mythics or cry for their return as rewards for top 10 coalitions, it's a neat throwback in Avacyns Madness, but the playerbase has grown so much that top 100 is no small feat anymore. as I said earlier, I really really hope that The Immortal Sun is cosmetic, and doesn't have gameplay impact, since otherwise it could potentially put the vast majority of the playerbase at a disadvantage.

    That's because it's been so long that we're resigned to the idea that they aren't coming back  
  • bk1234
    bk1234 Posts: 2,924 Chairperson of the Boards
    [MOD MIC ON] Please refrain from quoting or tagging players to try to get a rise out of them. [//MOD MIC]
  • ILikePancakes
    ILikePancakes Posts: 101 Tile Toppler
    THEMAGICkMAN said:
    I haven't heard anyone cojmplain about lack of mythics or cry for their return as rewards for top 10 coalitions, it's a neat throwback in Avacyns Madness, but the playerbase has grown so much that top 100 is no small feat anymore. as I said earlier, I really really hope that The Immortal Sun is cosmetic, and doesn't have gameplay impact, since otherwise it could potentially put the vast majority of the playerbase at a disadvantage.
    This. I can't get excited about something I have zero chance of getting. My reaction upon reading that a very small number of players will get an extremely rare card was whoop-de-doo. Doesnt make me excited to play the event.
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    ILikePancakes said:
    This. I can't get excited about something I have zero chance of getting. My reaction upon reading that a very small number of players will get an extremely rare card was whoop-de-doo. Doesnt make me excited to play the event.
    Spot on and I am of the same mind as you about this. That prize is untouchable to the general populace until released months later for crafting
  • Gunmix25
    Gunmix25 Posts: 1,442 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited March 2018


    so when is the next data push? anyone know?

  • DBJones
    DBJones Posts: 803 Critical Contributor
    Sometime next week, if the post in the Bugs forum about Tishala (sp? The merfolk buyable) is correct.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    miss_zoey said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    ILikePancakes said:
    This. I can't get excited about something I have zero chance of getting. My reaction upon reading that a very small number of players will get an extremely rare card was whoop-de-doo. Doesnt make me excited to play the event.
    Spot on and I am of the same mind as you about this. That prize is untouchable to the general populace until released months later for crafting
    Yes yes yes! Can we in fact remove all ranked prizes from all events, and just give everyone the same rewards? I think it's the only way to be fair. Otherwise players who perform better at the game will be rewarded for doing so, which I don't think anyone wants.
    Spot on and I am of the same mind as you about this.

    THEMAGICkMAN said:
    it could potentially put the vast majority of the playerbase at a disadvantage.
    This is a collection based game. There are always going to be players with advantage over others. I opened a masterpiece sword from an elite pack a while ago. What an absolute atrocity against the vast majority of players who did not get that sword. 

    Lets end all aspects of competition from events and bring the everybody-wins culture to the game because players feel bad about not having performed as well as the more competitive ones.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    I expect the update will be as soon as the timer on the Ixalan set runs out.

    Or the one on Vona.
  • Gilesclone
    Gilesclone Posts: 735 Critical Contributor
    Just because we don’t want J shaped rewards doesn’t mean we want — shaped rewards.  This is a false dichotomy.
  • ILikePancakes
    ILikePancakes Posts: 101 Tile Toppler
    edited March 2018
    miss_zoey said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    ILikePancakes said:
    This. I can't get excited about something I have zero chance of getting. My reaction upon reading that a very small number of players will get an extremely rare card was whoop-de-doo. Doesnt make me excited to play the event.
    Spot on and I am of the same mind as you about this. That prize is untouchable to the general populace until released months later for crafting
    Yes yes yes! Can we in fact remove all ranked prizes from all events, and just give everyone the same rewards? I think it's the only way to be fair. Otherwise players who perform better at the game will be rewarded for doing so, which I don't think anyone wants.
    Hmm, it's certainly not necessary to give everyone the same rewards. Not sure why players pointing out the problem of an uber exclusive card leads other players to conclude that all rewards should be equal. Notice no one complained about the current reward system, only that an extremely rare card will be available to an incredibly small population of people. I'm assuming you'll be one of the beneficiaries, perhaps? Congrats and enjoy.
  • ILikePancakes
    ILikePancakes Posts: 101 Tile Toppler
    khurram said:
    miss_zoey said:
    Gunmix25 said:
    ILikePancakes said:
    This. I can't get excited about something I have zero chance of getting. My reaction upon reading that a very small number of players will get an extremely rare card was whoop-de-doo. Doesnt make me excited to play the event.
    Spot on and I am of the same mind as you about this. That prize is untouchable to the general populace until released months later for crafting
    Yes yes yes! Can we in fact remove all ranked prizes from all events, and just give everyone the same rewards? I think it's the only way to be fair. Otherwise players who perform better at the game will be rewarded for doing so, which I don't think anyone wants.
    Spot on and I am of the same mind as you about this.

    THEMAGICkMAN said:
    it could potentially put the vast majority of the playerbase at a disadvantage.
    This is a collection based game. There are always going to be players with advantage over others. I opened a masterpiece sword from an elite pack a while ago. What an absolute atrocity against the vast majority of players who did not get that sword. 

    Lets end all aspects of competition from events and bring the everybody-wins culture to the game because players feel bad about not having performed as well as the more competitive ones.
    Everyone can open a purple pack given time and money. Not everyone has a chance at an exclusive card b/c they aren't part of an exclusive coalition. Not the same thing at all. Enjoy your new card, though!

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