Ixalan Predictions

Matthew

I'm curious what you all think is going to be the best card (or cards) from the new set that's about to drop. For your convenience, here is the card list.

Personally, I think that it'd be pretty hard to screw up Goring Ceratops. It's ability is 100% translatable to the PQ environment, and I think if they stay true to what's on the card, it will be one of the top cards to get. However, I'm torn in saying that it will be better than Carnage Tyrant, which we've already seen. I think that card looks fantastic though that's probably due to my preference for untouchable monstrosities.

Perhaps this is a little too late, but I've been too busy to put it on the boards since I thought of the idea last night. You can even break it out into rarity tiers, spell types, or colors if you like. I'd love to see what you all think! 

ElfNeedsFood

I like quirky cards and finding ways to use them.  The only thing the new hexasaurus has that we don't have in other existing cards is "Dinosaur".  Two of the quirky cards I was hoping for have both been previewed in the blogs and the both disappointed me a bit...  Namely Axis of Mortality and Vanquisher's Banner.  Axis of Mortality is nothing like the paper card and the jury is out on Vanquisher's Banner

That said, I'm hopeful for Revel in Riches and Arcane Adaption.

Kardynal

River's Rebuke

Matthew

ElfNeedsFood said:

I like quirky cards and finding ways to use them.  The only thing the new hexasaurus has that we don't have in other existing cards is "Dinosaur".  Two of the quirky cards I was hoping for have both been previewed in the blogs and the both disappointed me a bit...  Namely Axis of Mortality and Vanquisher's Banner.  Axis of Mortality is nothing like the paper card and the jury is out on Vanquisher's Banner

That said, I'm hopeful for Revel in Riches and Arcane Adaption.

You're certainly correct in that we already have other Untouchables. But I think the thing I like most about Tyrant is that it can't be messed with while it's in your hand. That's something they haven't done yet with anything.

Revel in Riches would be cool, and probably easily translatable. Neat picks!

Kardynal said:

River's Rebuke

This is also a cool choice. I wonder if they'll also make it return support cards to the hand?

ElfNeedsFood

Matthew said

You're certainly correct in that we already have other Untouchables. But I think the thing I like most about Tyrant is that it can't be messed with while it's in your hand. That's something they haven't done yet with anything.

Oh right, that is pretty interesting and unique.

khurram

The thing about Carnage Tyrant.... It's Mana can't be drained or raised. Does the raised part mean it can't get Mana from supports like Pyramid or Kiora's first ability? They didn't say its Mana cost cant be raised.

Matthew

khurram said:

The thing about Carnage Tyrant.... It's Mana can't be drained or raised. Does the raised part mean it can't get Mana from supports like Pyramid or Kiora's first ability? They didn't say its Mana cost cant be raised.

I agree, the wording is funky and has had me worried. My hopeless optimism has me thinking that it just means that the cost can't be raised, probably referring to effects like Sphinx's Tutelage, Overwhelming Splendor, or Emrakul for example.

I mean think about it, why would they create a card that you can't cast by any traditional means?

Kinesia

Matthew said:

khurram said:

The thing about Carnage Tyrant.... It's Mana can't be drained or raised. Does the raised part mean it can't get Mana from supports like Pyramid or Kiora's first ability? They didn't say its Mana cost cant be raised.

I agree, the wording is funky and has had me worried. My hopeless optimism has me thinking that it just means that the cost can't be raised, probably referring to effects like Sphinx's Tutelage, Overwhelming Splendor, or Emrakul for example.

I mean think about it, why would they create a card that you can't cast by any traditional means?

Heh. And the mana won't jump to the next card until it's full, so it's sit like an anchor at the top of your hand stopping you from playing completely...

Matthew

This is exactly how I'm hoping it will behave. That would be extremely useful.

Kardynal

'Taxed' might be a better word than 'raised'.

Also, it'd be nice if it couldn't be discarded either, wouldn't it?

Gunmix25

Matthew said:

khurram said:

The thing about Carnage Tyrant.... It's Mana can't be drained or raised. Does the raised part mean it can't get Mana from supports like Pyramid or Kiora's first ability? They didn't say its Mana cost cant be raised.

I agree, the wording is funky and has had me worried. My hopeless optimism has me thinking that it just means that the cost can't be raised, probably referring to effects like Sphinx's Tutelage, Overwhelming Splendor, or Emrakul for example.

I mean think about it, why would they create a card that you can't cast by any traditional means?

I thought it was pretty clear.  Mana cost cannot be Raised or lowered. In all of MTG ... mana cost has always is just that.  Mana cost. It doesn't address how mana affects it. Just simply states the required amount needed to cast it cannot be raised or lowered. @Matthew has it right.  Sphinx Tutelage,  Emrakhul, Overwhelming Splendor cannot alter its cost... but neither can those two new red and white cards cards that lower dinosaurs by 2 mana. 

Gunmix25

Kardynal said:

'Taxed' might be a better word than 'raised'.

Also, it'd be nice if it couldn't be discarded either, wouldn't it?

Taxed means to sap, drain or strain. Raised is opposite of this, which is closer to escalate or inflate. 

It would be nice if it couldn't be discarded. Be useful whenever facing black or blue decks

DBJones

I also hope Revel in Riches comes to us. Partly because when I looked it up it had my favorite official ruling I've ever seen:
  "If the second ability of Revel in Riches causes you to win the game, please refrain from throwing your Treasure tokens into the air as this may distract or injure other players."

Mburn7

DBJones said:

I also hope Revel in Riches comes to us. Partly because when I looked it up it had my favorite official ruling I've ever seen:
  "If the second ability of Revel in Riches causes you to win the game, please refrain from throwing your Treasure tokens into the air as this may distract or injure other players."

I am also curious as to how they will adapt this card (and that ruling is beautiful, thank you for sharing).
Admiral Beckett Brass seems like he'll be interesting as well.

Thuran

She*

Its a woman

khurram

Thuran said:

She*

Its a woman

She is a woman. 

GrizzoMtGPQ

Wait does that mean Carnage Tyrant won't work with Omniscience? Because it lowers the card cost to zero. Weird.

Gideon

Will it work with dark ritual or mirror pool?

Gunmix25

GrizzoMtGPQ said:

Wait does that mean Carnage Tyrant won't work with Omniscience? Because it lowers the card cost to zero. Weird.

Nice catch. I don't own that card. But yes it shouldn't work at all. 

Gunmix25

Gideon said:

Will it work with dark ritual or mirror pool?

Dark ritual fills the card with mana. So yes, it would. I honestly can't say about mirrorpool, I don't  own thr card. Does it fill the free card with mana or reduce to zero or simply cast it from your hand?

James13

Gunmix25 said:

Gideon said:

Will it work with dark ritual or mirror pool?

Dark ritual fills the card with mana. So yes, it would. I honestly can't say about mirrorpool, I don't  own thr card. Does it fill the free card with mana or reduce to zero or simply cast it from your hand?

Mirrorpool does two things: if you cast a spell with another spell-type card in hand it will fill that next spell and then be destroyed.
If you cast a creature it will reinforce it.

I don't see why mirrorpool would not reinforce a cast carnage tyrant.  It never fills creature cards.