Projectus2501 said: One good example is the new black panther. I now that kraven is bad but even if he wasn't, he is so recent we probably wouldn't have played with it. And 2 weeks later, yet another 4*.This is terrible for new players
Unfortunately it is something you need to get used to. There will be character releases every other week, like Clockwork. Though Kraven's release was actually 4 weeks ago, 2 weeks ago the release was the Robbie Reyes - that was actually a nice break since it was a fivestar release without an accompanying threestar, so we could actually stock up on ISO for Black Panther...
But yeah, Black Panther this weekend, and in two weeks there will be Another fourstar released. It's how it goes, because new releases is what gets people playing apparently.
Quebbster said: Projectus2501 said: One good example is the new black panther. I now that kraven is bad but even if he wasn't, he is so recent we probably wouldn't have played with it. And 2 weeks later, yet another 4*.This is terrible for new players.But yeah, Black Panther this weekend, and in two weeks there will be Another fourstar released. It's how it goes, because new releases is what gets people playing (paying) apparently.
Projectus2501 said: One good example is the new black panther. I now that kraven is bad but even if he wasn't, he is so recent we probably wouldn't have played with it. And 2 weeks later, yet another 4*.This is terrible for new players.
But yeah, Black Panther this weekend, and in two weeks there will be Another fourstar released. It's how it goes, because new releases is what gets people playing (paying) apparently.
Nick441234 said: To be fair, new players shouldn't even be worrying about 4*s. They'll be working on 2*s and 3*s.
broll said: Nick441234 said: To be fair, new players shouldn't even be worrying about 4*s. They'll be working on 2*s and 3*s. True, but they still also add several 3*s a year continuing to increase the gate to even get past that beginner stage...
Nick441234 said: broll said: Nick441234 said: To be fair, new players shouldn't even be worrying about 4*s. They'll be working on 2*s and 3*s. True, but they still also add several 3*s a year continuing to increase the gate to even get past that beginner stage... At the end of the day you should ask yourself one simple question as a new player. Are you willing to put 3 years of your life into playing this game? If the answer is no, stop playing and find something else. Its a very long road playing Marvel Puzzle Quest and theres no quick way to the end without putting sickening amounts of money into the game.
Calnexin said: It's a tough road if you're a collector. If you haven't already been playing for a few years, it's almost impossible to catch up. If you just want to get competitive, newer players really need to focus on the newer releases and just let the old chaff go. E.g. no one needs Hulkbuster anymore. He's a passion project, if anything. Outside a half dozen characters that are top-tier with good synergy, everyone else is niche or "only when boosted" territory. You only need 1 cover, so long as you've got two good ones to do the heavy lifting when they're essential. At anything below the 5* tier, you can compete without a full roster of champs.If you go into it thinking you need to champ every new release, you're going to have an awful time with the game. Enjoy it with managed expectations or not at all.
broll said: Nick441234 said: broll said: Nick441234 said: To be fair, new players shouldn't even be worrying about 4*s. They'll be working on 2*s and 3*s. True, but they still also add several 3*s a year continuing to increase the gate to even get past that beginner stage... At the end of the day you should ask yourself one simple question as a new player. Are you willing to put 3 years of your life into playing this game? If the answer is no, stop playing and find something else. Its a very long road playing Marvel Puzzle Quest and theres no quick way to the end without putting sickening amounts of money into the game. I don't disagree and that's the problem... every-time there's a survey asking if I would recommend it I say no. No one has that kind of time commitment. It get's more and more bloated and the gap between new and old grows wider. IMO they really need to cut the 1*s redo the prologue for 2*s and 3*s and make 4* transition easier (put a daily 4* cover in DDQ like 3* node). This would cut 3-9 months of the early game transition and also help older players with vintage dilution issues.
Straycat said: broll said: Nick441234 said: broll said: Nick441234 said: To be fair, new players shouldn't even be worrying about 4*s. They'll be working on 2*s and 3*s. True, but they still also add several 3*s a year continuing to increase the gate to even get past that beginner stage... At the end of the day you should ask yourself one simple question as a new player. Are you willing to put 3 years of your life into playing this game? If the answer is no, stop playing and find something else. Its a very long road playing Marvel Puzzle Quest and theres no quick way to the end without putting sickening amounts of money into the game. I don't disagree and that's the problem... every-time there's a survey asking if I would recommend it I say no. No one has that kind of time commitment. It get's more and more bloated and the gap between new and old grows wider. IMO they really need to cut the 1*s redo the prologue for 2*s and 3*s and make 4* transition easier (put a daily 4* cover in DDQ like 3* node). This would cut 3-9 months of the early game transition and also help older players with vintage dilution issues. I dunno, if someone can casually play thru the prologue they might enjoy the game enough. I think the real game is hard to recommend, but the beginning of it is probably worth playing. I got hooked on it. I don't think starting the game at 2* would really help new players, wouldn't they just hit the roster slot wall earlier? Daily 4*s would probably not go over well if they are like the 3, where you need to already have them rostered.
DAZ0273 said: Calnexin said: It's a tough road if you're a collector. If you haven't already been playing for a few years, it's almost impossible to catch up. If you just want to get competitive, newer players really need to focus on the newer releases and just let the old chaff go. E.g. no one needs Hulkbuster anymore. He's a passion project, if anything. Outside a half dozen characters that are top-tier with good synergy, everyone else is niche or "only when boosted" territory. You only need 1 cover, so long as you've got two good ones to do the heavy lifting when they're essential. At anything below the 5* tier, you can compete without a full roster of champs.If you go into it thinking you need to champ every new release, you're going to have an awful time with the game. Enjoy it with managed expectations or not at all. And here is a lesson to be learned.When I first started playing, Hulkbuster was worth chasing, he was one of the better 4*. By the time I got him champed, slowed a lot by Vaulting, he was an irrelevance, an antique from an old meta that was based around stockpiling AP for a big nuke. On a personal level I don't mind because I like his design artwork and pretty much any 4* boosted is useful. However unless you can keep up or are lucky, you will get passed by.
Projectus2501 said: Ppl insist that d3 has launched heroes this way since the begining of game. Still, only stubborns don't change their mind. I'm not gonna pay cash for 4*s I wont even remember 2 months from now....
crackninja said: This is not a game I'd recommend any new players take up with any illusion that they will ever "catch up". But if they like marvel and/or puzzle quest or match 3 games in general, it can be a fun 5-15 minutes a day time killer. And no stress involved by the way...I'm in a very casual alliance. We rarely finish round 5 of boss events. We may go a week without a single message on the board. I often outscore the rest of my alliance combined on events. But the free cp messages are always popping up because people enjoy the time they spend with it. My guess is there are a lot more alliances like mine than those filled with people that spend 2+ hours a day playing.