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  • Tilwin90
    Tilwin90 Posts: 662 Critical Contributor
    Starfield is one great card if you are going the control way and I am sure we will see tons of decks built with it post crafting.
    This being said, I expect The Great Aurora & Hour of Revelation to also see more play.
    The most dangerous trifecta of Standard support control remains Insidious Will + Gideon's Intervention + Starfield of Nyx (I am excluding Omniscience as it is still a masterpiece that SOME people will have but it won't be craftable). Greg has a hard time pushing through it, but I still found it a dangerous combo for "take x or less damage" objectives as it takes a bit to assemble and with a bit of luck, Greg DOES push through it (not enough to win, but to lose you the objective).

    P.S.: Don't include pact of negation with Nyx as you risk locking yourself out as well.
  • Hateborn
    Hateborn Posts: 37 Just Dropped In

    My current setup, which rarely takes 10 or more damage unless facing red spells, is as follows:


    Creatures

    Angel of Sanctions

    Adorned Pouncer

    Cultivators Caravan


    Spells

    Grind//Dust

    Forsake the Worldly


    Supports

    Gideon's Defeat

    Farm//Market

    Sword of the Animist

    Oracle's Vault

    Cast Out


    Lots of control baked in and once Market goes off, it turns into effectively White Dredge as it dumps hand and then drags cards back with aftermath/embalm.

  • Tilwin90
    Tilwin90 Posts: 662 Critical Contributor
    edited December 2017
    What rank are you @Hateborn , gold or platinum?
    Looking at your deck I can identify half of it (Adorned Pouncer, Cultivators Caravan, Forsake the Worldly, Sword of the Animist, Oracle's Vault) as not helping you against an aggressive deck, or deals direct damage (burn or ETB damage as you mentioned).
    People argue that Gideon's Defeat & Farm//Market are sufficient to stop hasty creatures, but reality is that without defenders to back it up, the chance of the opponent cracking a Farm//Market immediately is high (especially if it drops on a blue gem against a Kiora deck dropping afterwards a Gaea's Revenge).
    I lost points like this way too often in this kind of node to not take the "rarely" with a bit of salt. It's definitely a good deck, and unless you are facing some degenerate combos and with a tiny bit of luck you will manage taking less than 10 damage (or lose less than 3 creatures which is also a possibility).

    Of course ultimately it's a game of luck, so the only way you can maximize your chances is to increase your chances in your starting hand on a defensive board position (both in creatures & supports). I would also note that if your opponent drops an Hour of Devastation while you have all your creatures on the board in a form or another you lose both secondary objectives.

    Edit: Whoopsie, I see we are discussing Elspeth node directly here. My bad :smile:  I seem to have focused too much on the left node these past events.
  • Kinesia
    Kinesia Posts: 1,621 Chairperson of the Boards
    @Tilwin90 I find things to be best if I have both a blocking creature in place _and_ a support like Farm or whatever. But even then they can kill both! It's rare they break through if I have _two_ blockers and a support though!