A nickname that makes me think

rafalele
rafalele Posts: 876 Critical Contributor
edited December 2017 in MtGPQ General Discussion
Hi.

Just now I have seen a match in Nodes of power event in bronze tier were the player used by IA has [redacted] as nickname.

This has made me think a lot before posting this. Finally I have posted it because I am really upset.

First thought was 'is this allowed?', second 'does it matter?', third 'how do you control something like this?'.

I never thought about anyone to be so 'rare' that would like him/her to be called [redacted].

For me the fact is to let the child players who have played or are going to play against the decks of this player, to think that it s a nice nickname for anything or something to be taken lightly.

What do you think? I really do not like.


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  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2017
    redacted] is a family name. 

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yvqx8x/meet-the-hitlers-matt-ogens-interview-183



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  • andrewvanmarle
    andrewvanmarle Posts: 978 Critical Contributor
    As ohboy said, it is a family name. though i assume the nick was chosen in poor taste we must, I believe, act with extreme caution  when chastising or censoring someone over their name.
  • asm0deus
    asm0deus Posts: 73 Match Maker
    I really dont pay much attention to the names of the opponents i face, unless it is a member of our coalition or one of the frequent top ranking players. Just to see how my deck build would stack up againts theirs. But some restrictions might already be in place as to what names would be considered offensive (cuss words,r-18 names,etc) and thus be prevented from being used. The name you mentioned is a persons last name and unfortunately it would be linked to someone who has done really horrible things, but it might not have been considered as offensive compared to other words that could have been possibly used.
  • Sarahschmara
    Sarahschmara Posts: 554 Critical Contributor
    Ooh. How much intolerance are we morally obliged to tolerate?

    While @Ohboy is correct, I’m with you @rafalele
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    What intolerance? 

    The intolerance in this thread has been one way, directed at a guy not even here to defend himself. 
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2017
    Well there are also people named [redacted].. does that mean we should allow it to be a handle in a game where minors play? 

    Perhaps if your name happens to be something offensive to most people in the English language you shouldn't be allowed to name your character that?  Can't John [redacted] just name his team something other than his last name?

    And, not sure I moded that name down as much as I should.... wasn't trying to be inflammatory.  Feel free to further mod if you feel it is still in violation.

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  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2017
    OK not trying to start a fight, but this is too coincidental to pass up. 

    Are you aware of the delicious irony that "babar"  is a racial slur?

    I've only heard it used once in my life, so it's rather obscure, but it did jump out at me the first time I saw your nick. 
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy said:
    OK not trying to start a fight, but this is too coincidental to pass up. 

    Are you aware of the delicious irony that "babar"  is a racial slur?

    I've only heard it used once in my life, so it's rather obscure, but it did jump out at me the first time I saw your nick. 
    Lol seriously?  I have never heard that and have used the name/handle for close to 20 years.  My 2 yo loves Babar the elephant and we read the books all the time.

    Well, I guess I learned something today.  But of course that has nothing to do with my handle and one of my best friends is Indian.
  • ZW2007-
    ZW2007- Posts: 812 Critical Contributor
    Curse you for being a well-known fictional Elephant. You MONSTER!
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2017
    This is awkward.

    Babar the elephant is the origin of that slur I believe.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Babar&page=2
  • Houdin
    Houdin Posts: 182 Tile Toppler
    I'm going to have to agree with @Ohboy on this one folks.
    There is absolutely no good reason to censor someone from using any nickname that is not innately offensive.

    Which in this case that doesn't pass muster.
    The offence is directly tied to a single individual and not everyone who has ever held that name.

    If this is per chance that players family name. He or she has every right to use it as there nickname. They should not need to cow tow to the minority who are so thin skinned that they are offended and believe that their hurt feelings are more important than the rights of others.

    And yes I'm a little passionate about this particular topic.
  • Furordraco
    Furordraco Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    edited December 2017
    to be honest just [redacted] doesnt hurt feelings that much. They could have made it much more offensive


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  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Your reasoning that children might see it isn't really a compelling argument. Children either will think nothing of it because they don't know who Adolf Hitler was, or if they do, it's unlikely they fully understand the depths of why he was such a horrible person. In either case, what exactly are you attempting to protect them from?

    I would also think that being offended isn't a valid enough reason to imply censors on names. It opens a while line of reasoning to "what is offensive?" which can turn around on those who wanted to impose censorship in the first place. (See the above example regarding Babbar, which ironically happens to be my roommate's last name.)

    End of the day, there will always be people who say things someone else finds vulgar or offensive. In my opinion, the best course of action is to ignore it and learn to move on. Attempting to silence the person may just give them the attention they desire to then start a whole rant about how free speech is being oppressed, as well as makes the things he or she is trying to say seem that much more intriguing. 
  • morgue427
    morgue427 Posts: 783 Critical Contributor
    personally i think people just try to hard to be offended now a days, yes you are allowed to be offended, and yes we are allowed not to care that you are. (i am agaisnt the nick hitler honestly just for  what it represents, but that does not mean it should be changed to keep me happy.)
  • Brigby
    Brigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 7,757 Site Admin
    Hi Everyone. If you feel a player name is inappropriate, then please send in a Customer Support ticket to report it. Once received, our team will review and take action on it, if deemed necessary. Thank you.
  • Fiddler
    Fiddler Posts: 251 Mover and Shaker

    It's offensive. Other nicknames are offensive as well, but this one does stand out for obvious reasons.

    If they were in my coalition, I would probably leave rather than cooperate with someone immature enough to think its funny or something. That's me though, and my choice.  

  • James13
    James13 Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    I've seen much more offensive names in app than the ones being cited here.  Euphemisms for excrement and other discharges.

    For what's it's worth, I tend not to be offended so much as make the snap judgement that the player choosing that is an immature fool.
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    Poop is more offensive then a genocidal socio-path who attempted to commit genocide and succeeding in killing over 20 million jews?  Erm, I disagree.

    Actually my view is it not for the player base to judge which handles should(n't) be allowed.  D3 is a private company and they can do whatever they want.  Customers can choose whether to engage in the game for these and infinite other reasons. 

    I was simply pointing out that despite the fact that Hitler is still a name in use in the world doesn't necessarily mean it should be green-lighted by D3 as an acceptable handle in game.
  • TheDragonHermit
    TheDragonHermit Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
    If anyone cares for a Jew's perspective, this player is likely begging for attention, and it is being given to them. The best thing to do is to to ignore them or quietly contact CS.
  • Furordraco
    Furordraco Posts: 142 Tile Toppler
    True. If he is a troll, with this post and our comments he got what he wanted
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