Magic said: Peggy used to be a unicorn but no longer there. He is a liability on defence against championed 5*. And she no longer rules the 4* world as well. Venom is great when boosted and pretty mediocre when not and this is true for most 4* (including Peggy). So yeah - go with the covers and champ Venom. Champed Peggy is not going to change your world on her own.
Dormammu said: Magic said: Peggy used to be a unicorn but no longer there. He is a liability on defence against championed 5*. And she no longer rules the 4* world as well. Venom is great when boosted and pretty mediocre when not and this is true for most 4* (including Peggy). So yeah - go with the covers and champ Venom. Champed Peggy is not going to change your world on her own. I couldn't disagree more. Peggy is a game-changing 4-star. Unboosted she's highly effective at dismantling entire teams of opponents. Boosted... she's an absolute terror. Maybe she's not the darling of PvP that she once was but that's only because the fickle player base has moved on to more recent shinys - not because she's any less effective. When I champed her I felt as though my roster made a leap forward with her presence alone. I have yet to find a more reliable team at ensuring a victory than Peggy + IM40. If she gets her blue off and you can take out the third un-stunned opponent, the match is over.Agent Venom not only isn't in her league, he isn't even playing the same sport.
Bowgentle said: Use both boosted with a base level of 340+.You'll change your mind.
Jaedenkaal said: Bowgentle said: Use both boosted with a base level of 340+.You'll change your mind. How is that helpful in a thread about who to champ first? They're clearly 70 covers away from 340.
Bowgentle said: Jaedenkaal said: Bowgentle said: Use both boosted with a base level of 340+.You'll change your mind. How is that helpful in a thread about who to champ first? They're clearly 70 covers away from 340. It gives perspective on who to concentrate on long term?
Dormammu said: @Bowgentle I find it interesting that champ levels improve Agent Venom so much so that he surpasses Peggy on the tier of 4-stars. I'm not disputing you, my highest 4-star is only 286 so I have no idea, but I was hoping you could be more specific on how he transforms into such a beast?I don't think AV is bad, I've always just relegated him to the category of 'use when boosted'.
Jaedenkaal said: Dormammu said: @Bowgentle I find it interesting that champ levels improve Agent Venom so much so that he surpasses Peggy on the tier of 4-stars. I'm not disputing you, my highest 4-star is only 286 so I have no idea, but I was hoping you could be more specific on how he transforms into such a beast?I don't think AV is bad, I've always just relegated him to the category of 'use when boosted'. Strictly speaking, they both improve at exactly the same rate. I'm pretty sure -every- champed 4* is good at 340, boosted to (whatever). Symbiotic Assault always does either 67% or 107% the damage of Ultimate Soldier (both at 5 covers for that comparison), for example, if they've both at the same level.
Bowgentle said: Dormammu said: @Bowgentle I find it interesting that champ levels improve Agent Venom so much so that he surpasses Peggy on the tier of 4-stars. I'm not disputing you, my highest 4-star is only 286 so I have no idea, but I was hoping you could be more specific on how he transforms into such a beast?I don't think AV is bad, I've always just relegated him to the category of 'use when boosted'. He's much faster.5 black AP for a ton of damage.And his red does more damage than Peggy's at comparable levels.
Bowgentle said: I give up.Enjoy your Peggy.