A timer for battles

Rasalghul

In PVE event where there is no enraged mode, a timer may be useful to limit the time spent for each battle. The loser is the one with the lowest life points.

Or we could have records for the fastest battle, the longest battle, fastest average time for a coalition... At the end of the event, we can give additional points or rewards.

TheDragonHermit

A MTGPQ chess clock, an interesting idea. Would work well if live PvP is ever introduced.

Thuran

Could be a new mode: after  x turns, you start taking increasingly high fixed dmg per round.

Or just limit decks to 40 cards

Firinmahlazer

So instead of building faster, better decks you want a free win if you just run out the clock? 

TheDragonHermit

Thuran said:

Could be a new mode: after  x turns, you start taking increasingly high fixed dmg per round.

Or just limit decks to 40 cards

That would actually be a good counter to cycling. Cycle too much, milk yourself to death

wereotter

TheDragonHermit said:

Thuran said:

Could be a new mode: after  x turns, you start taking increasingly high fixed dmg per round.

Or just limit decks to 40 cards

That would actually be a good counter to cycling. Cycle too much, milk yourself to death

Or they could counter cycling by simply limiting the number of cards in your library. Use up your 40 cards, and you lose the game. 

TheDragonHermit

Sorry I meant mill auto correct got me

blacklotus

i support the idea of a limited deck size. This makes milling to win a workable strategy again, like the real paper mtg. 

span_argoman

I've commented before in a previous thread suggesting limited deck sizes. This game is not designed to be played with a limited deck size.

Cards like Lost Legacy and recurring discarders like Dreamstealer and Neheb the Worthy will form the basis for many unpleasant troll decks.

There are fundamental differences that make this game work better with an unlimited deck. It's better to fix the problematic issues than to change the fundamentals of the game.

MtgPQPro

The issue is that battles can take to long.  Just add a feature that speeds up the game like we have for opening packs.  

At one time they made the game fast!  It was great but a few days later they slowed it down again.

Szamsziel

Add a button to: complete the fight using Ai on your deck. So ai against ai;). The drawback should be that if you autocomplete fight you don't get experience reward and do not master catrds.

James13

It would be both hilarious and horrifying to see the AI pilot your deck while you helplessly watch it blow everything.  Heh.

Rasalghul

My initial idea was to add a time clock so that we can have time records : 
- fastest battle in the event
- lowest aggregate battle time
- lowest aggregate battle time for a coalition
etc.. 

Just to add another leaderboard as in arcade game machine

shteev

MtgPQ Pro said:

The issue is that battles can take to long.  Just add a feature that speeds up the game like we have for opening packs.  

At one time they made the game fast!  It was great but a few days later they slowed it down again.

There were complaints that aspects of the game became too fast. I can't be bothered to go find the thread now, but it would be helpful if someone did so we could discuss it.

I'd have thought that the recent introduction of the battlelog into the game would have sorted a lot of the problems people had back then.

Also, as far as I remember, most of the complaints were about the board collapsing too quickly, and not other, boring aspects of the game, like waiting for cards to draw, or creatures to buff, or tokens to spawn.

wereotter

shteev said:

MtgPQ Pro said:

The issue is that battles can take to long.  Just add a feature that speeds up the game like we have for opening packs.  

At one time they made the game fast!  It was great but a few days later they slowed it down again.

There were complaints that aspects of the game became too fast. I can't be bothered to go find the thread now, but it would be helpful if someone did so we could discuss it.

I'd have thought that the recent introduction of the battlelog into the game would have sorted a lot of the problems people had back then.

Also, as far as I remember, most of the complaints were about the board collapsing too quickly, and not other, boring aspects of the game, like waiting for cards to draw, or creatures to buff, or tokens to spawn.

I get the feeling that they're going to struggle going forward to find a balance for this. Look at the creatures in Hour of Devastation compared to creatures from the Innistrad and Kaladesh blocks, then compare the HOD creatures again to the creatures from Origins. You'll notice that they've scaled back the creature size. Gone are the creatures with 11-16 power. Now your largest ones are 7 or 8 power and many more at 6, which is where we were back in Origins.

Now.... take a look at max planeswalker health. Ajani with his whopping 130 max health, and compare that to Origins Chandea with her 82. So we've scaled back on creature power, but planeswalker health is still high, which will mean that PvP matches, on average, will be longer than matches we've seen previously.

shteev

wereotter said:

shteev said:

MtgPQ Pro said:

The issue is that battles can take to long.  Just add a feature that speeds up the game like we have for opening packs.  

At one time they made the game fast!  It was great but a few days later they slowed it down again.

There were complaints that aspects of the game became too fast. I can't be bothered to go find the thread now, but it would be helpful if someone did so we could discuss it.

I'd have thought that the recent introduction of the battlelog into the game would have sorted a lot of the problems people had back then.

Also, as far as I remember, most of the complaints were about the board collapsing too quickly, and not other, boring aspects of the game, like waiting for cards to draw, or creatures to buff, or tokens to spawn.

I get the feeling that they're going to struggle going forward to find a balance for this. Look at the creatures in Hour of Devastation compared to creatures from the Innistrad and Kaladesh blocks, then compare the HOD creatures again to the creatures from Origins. You'll notice that they've scaled back the creature size. Gone are the creatures with 11-16 power. Now your largest ones are 7 or 8 power and many more at 6, which is where we were back in Origins.

Now.... take a look at max planeswalker health. Ajani with his whopping 130 max health, and compare that to Origins Chandea with her 82. So we've scaled back on creature power, but planeswalker health is still high, which will mean that PvP matches, on average, will be longer than matches we've seen previously.

We're talking about 2 different things here... I'm talking about how fast the game elements animate, and you're talking about how many game actions are required to reduce your opponent's health to 0.

wereotter

ohh I must have misread what was meant. But if we are talking about how long it takes to complete a match in general, this will be a continuing factor.

ElvaanStride

There's already a timer. You let the AI get about 10 moves in and you'll lose half the time with all the cascades, random Mana gains and abilities activating that they don't even possess.

Matthew

ElvaanStrider said:

There's already a timer. You let the AI get about 10 moves in and you'll lose half the time with all the cascades, random Mana gains and abilities activating that they don't even possess.

Let me just leave this here for you.