***** Gambit (Classic) *****

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  • zodiac339
    zodiac339 Posts: 1,948 Chairperson of the Boards
    Someone in Anniversary Simulator hit me with a newly champed Gambit level 468, paired with Surfer (529) and Black Bolt (550). I decided not to mess with retaliating. Guess I don't blame him for wanting to try the new toy, even against my defending team of Daken, Wolverine (both 144 2*s), and Storm (level 50 1*). It's not like my max of 239 roster could have retaliated though.
  • vinsensual
    vinsensual Posts: 458 Mover and Shaker
    CloudTactics said:
    Wow. Gambit is definitely next on the list to get nerfed. The next meta is going to be focused around him. He's able to fire off his red almost every other turn, and it's hitting for over 30k. As a fan of hawk eye+coulson+marvel, this addition has made me sad
    How is 30k possible?  The damage I read of a 452 Gambit is that it deals 7700 damage per charge tile destroyed, and that's capped at 2 tiles.  
  • D4Ni13
    D4Ni13 Posts: 745 Critical Contributor
    vinsensual said:
    CloudTactics said:
    Wow. Gambit is definitely next on the list to get nerfed. The next meta is going to be focused around him. He's able to fire off his red almost every other turn, and it's hitting for over 30k. As a fan of hawk eye+coulson+marvel, this addition has made me sad
    How is 30k possible?  The damage I read of a 452 Gambit is that it deals 7700 damage per charge tile destroyed, and that's capped at 2 tiles.  
    Either exageration, either cascades ? An explanation would be nice.
  • Black Duke
    Black Duke Posts: 694 Critical Contributor
    I’m thinking of possible teammates for him in 4* tier (since my Black Bolt is fairly unusable at 1/2/0) and Agent Coulson is coming to my mind. Even though you weren’t able to use Phil’s purple, his passive abilities would work well with Gambit‘s Ragin’ Cajun.

    When Gambit‘s four CD tiles dissolve, you wouldn’t only do 21.3k damage in total, but also     Coulson‘s blue passive would do ~1k bonus damage per tile and you would gain 2 AP per tile (not to forget the turbo boost when you have enough Team-Up AP).

    In PVE nodes with lots of goons this pair will be devastating!
  • fork1977
    fork1977 Posts: 94 Match Maker
    Very much enjoying him with surfer and black bolt. That is a very nice combo
  • D4Ni13
    D4Ni13 Posts: 745 Critical Contributor
    Black Duke said:
    I’m thinking of possible teammates for him in 4* tier (since my Black Bolt is fairly unusable at 1/2/0) and Agent Coulson is coming to my mind. Even though you weren’t able to use Phil’s purple, his passive abilities would work well with Gambit‘s Ragin’ Cajun.

    When Gambit‘s four CD tiles dissolve, you wouldn’t only do 21.3k damage in total, but also Coulson‘s blue passive would do ~1k bonus damage per tile and you would gain 2 AP per tile (not to forget the turbo boost when you have enough Team-Up AP).

    In PVE nodes with lots of goons this pair will be devastating!
    Add Carol as a third and you have a great team. Coulson already works well with Carol, and Gambit CDs would only help both of them. 
  • ValekBoss
    ValekBoss Posts: 106 Tile Toppler
    CloudTactics said:
    Wow. Gambit is definitely next on the list to get nerfed. The next meta is going to be focused around him. He's able to fire off his red almost every other turn, and it's hitting for over 30k. As a fan of hawk eye+coulson+marvel, this addition has made me sad
    30K lol....
  • Rick_OShay
    Rick_OShay Posts: 765 Critical Contributor
    Wow he works so well with Surfer. Since blue targets the color you want to be charged, Gambit spends 7 red to pick up 6 AP from those specific charged tiles. Sure, the next time the charged tiles are a random color but that's still great if you bring a 3rd for a rainbow team. 
    Can't wait to play more against color-specific charged tile makers like Rags etc where you can plan a big hitter for that color of charged tiles. 
  • D4Ni13
    D4Ni13 Posts: 745 Critical Contributor
    When does Gambit enter the Latest tokens ? 

    Is it 2 weeks after his store expires ? Or 2 weeks after his release finished ? Or 2 weeks from what ?

    What is the estimated date of his arrival in packs ?
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    In the 3* node for the GotG event, I used Xpool thinking how great he'd be with Gambits passive!

    Until the fight started and I remembered the other part of his passive...

    Wow that's inconvenient. But i understand it'd probably be broken otherwise.
  • DrDevilDinosaur
    DrDevilDinosaur Posts: 436 Mover and Shaker
    BlackBoltRocks said:
    Yup I'm planning to use Surfer 5/3/5 with Gambit, when I get the latter covermaxed, hopefully by late February just before he leaves Latest, if my estimated calculations are correct.

    For a third, the ideal is of course Black Bolt, but Starlord would be a decent alternative to Boltagon.


    I was playing around with Surfer + Gambit + Quill. My Gambit is at 0/1/1, so I've been spending Purple via Star-Lord instead. It's not a bad team, but seems a bit slow compared to Gambit + Bolt. It also doesn't help that most of the Symbiote teams have Green as their strongest colour, so Star-Lord's Yellow hasn't been cascading quite so much.

  • vinsensual
    vinsensual Posts: 458 Mover and Shaker
    Anything will feel slow compared to Gambit and Bolt.  
  • fight4thedream
    fight4thedream GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,978 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2017
    D4Ni13 said:
    vinsensual said:
    CloudTactics said:
    Wow. Gambit is definitely next on the list to get nerfed. The next meta is going to be focused around him. He's able to fire off his red almost every other turn, and it's hitting for over 30k. As a fan of hawk eye+coulson+marvel, this addition has made me sad
    How is 30k possible?  The damage I read of a 452 Gambit is that it deals 7700 damage per charge tile destroyed, and that's capped at 2 tiles.  
    Either exageration, either cascades ? An explanation would be nice.
    @vinsensual, @D4Ni13

    Gambit is apparently boosted 80+ levels in the Punisher PvP event. I fought a dude running him I think at 550 and can personally confirm that his red does deal 30K worth of damage straight at that level. Wasn't a pretty fight (x 。x)
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited October 2017
    So 5* gambit does 14k damage (at 450) for 7 red ap as long as there are 2 charged tiles on the board.  And he generates 3 red ap per turn.  And he gets 6 random ap, plus creates 2 more charged tiles, every time he spend 7 red ap to do 14k damage?

    That seems. . .good.
  • spectator
    spectator Posts: 395 Mover and Shaker
    Chances are you won’t be running a 5 red gambit unless you want to nerf his ap gen or his purple
  • vinsensual
    vinsensual Posts: 458 Mover and Shaker
    I think the build is gonna be 3/5/5 or 4/4/5 for Gambit.  I use War Machine a lot, and to me 2 turn Gatling Guns aren't that trustworthy to go off, while Gambit's red can probably be fired every other turn and is instant damage.  Could be 5 purple for special tile removal or if paired with Hawkeye or another countdown tile based character.
  • spectator
    spectator Posts: 395 Mover and Shaker
    I dunno, his purple looks much scarier than his red, I can’t wait to plug black holes with his playing cards
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    Just realized some great synergy between him and Rogue. If someone on the opposite team has Red or Purple as their strongest color, you can use Rogues Green on them and Gambits Black Passive ensures they're getting nuked every other turn.
  • D4Ni13
    D4Ni13 Posts: 745 Critical Contributor
    Anon said:
    Just realized some great synergy between him and Rogue. If someone on the opposite team has Red or Purple as their strongest color, you can use Rogues Green on them and Gambits Black Passive ensures they're getting nuked every other turn.
    Rogue won't collect double or triple AP if that AP is generated from other sources than tile matching. 
  • fork1977
    fork1977 Posts: 94 Match Maker
    spectator said:
    I dunno, his purple looks much scarier than his red, I can’t wait to plug black holes with his playing cards
    Purple is good, but red is the real damage maker. Paired with 4thor or blackbolt or surfer or lockjaw or mordo, he just does devastating self propelled damage. The red is sooo much cheaper and easier to fire. Purple is also CD tiles and they get matched away. Red is his most reliable nuke

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