When do you "retreat"?
Tiger_Wong
Posts: 1,058 Chairperson of the Boards
- if the match starts and the AI gets 2 or more straight 5 match cascades in the first 3 turns.
- when I'm facing a Carol/Medusa team, and Carol fires photon barrage and has 5 yellow.
- facing a wasp team and the AI somehow gets 6 blue AP and I have no quick way to kill her.
- when I'm facing a Carol/Medusa team, and Carol fires photon barrage and has 5 yellow.
- facing a wasp team and the AI somehow gets 6 blue AP and I have no quick way to kill her.
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Old pvp Truism
Losing fast is much safer than winning slow.7 -
If I have one character left with little life while the enemy team is stretching.
Basically a case of 4* Carol, Medusa, Random tile spamming character with a godlike cascade.0 -
I probably should do it more often, but I almost never retreat. I only remember doing it once in the last couple months when I got into a healing battle with a Carol/Medusa/Cage team, and the board was full of huge protect tiles.0
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Whenever I'm fighting goons and forget to bring Strang3.3
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I rarely do, but it mostly happens when I'm either one turn away from certain death or after the AI has started a match with a ridiculous cascade that I know will lead to multiple stuns. For example, a first turn for an AI with Iceman that gets them 15 blue or something. I'm a ghost.0
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Thanos green about to fire usually0
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Early insane cascades by the enemy. Especially if dealing with those stupid Ultron Sentries who get to move AND destroy tiles and then immediately are able to do Core Overload.0
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I retreat all the time. Multiple times per PVP event. Sometimes your score just gets too high, you know?4
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Almost never, which is probably dumb on my part. I've recently started retreating if I get a string of forced matches on colors I can't use while the enemy is racking up tons of AP, but for most of my MPQ "career" I've only retreated when defeat was basically guaranteed i.e. 2 characters down with a fat nuke coming next turn.0
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1) selected an incorrect team when PVE racing. Assuming I have the healthpacks, I'll retreat and re-start with the faster/ optimal PVE team
2) if a fat unavoidable AOE is incoming, often retreating will save you health versus fighting on
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It's a numbers game. For me, there are only 2 reasons to retreat:
1) I am about to take a whole bunch of damage, but if I retreat the damage will be minimal enough that I don't have to use healthpacks.
2) I'm dead, limping along on one character, facing a team with way more health than I have, I have no hope of being able to end them before I'm done, and it will take more than 2 moves to finish me off. At that point, all I'm saving is time to be able to move on to the next match/re-run.0 -
Back in the day when retreating helped reduce your MMR (see: tanking) I retreated 20 times a day, on average.
Now? Never retreat. Never back down. I'll fight until all three of my characters have gasped their last. Seeing the loss screen where the game suggests that I level my characters more or try recruiting some more characters is utterly humiliating and insulting.3 -
Never retreat if you have a Whale TU ...
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I'll retreat if
- It's obvious I'm going to lose - usually a choice made after I've lost my first character. If there's a 5* with a lot of health still standing on the other team, it's time to cut bait and move on.
- I'm hopping and an unfortunate cascade has made the match take long enough that I'm risking hits from other players. Better to eat the loss and come back later with a fresh queue than risk 100 points worth of defeat.
- I forget to switch out my DDQ teams and wind up having 1*s on the 2* nodes.0 -
I very rarely retreat. Usually if I do it's because I've gone into a fight with 2 support characters and a primary damage dealer and the damage dealer dies first.3 -
I'll retreat if I don't think I can win and my health is still viable (won't need a pack) on one or more chars. I'm doing it more in 5-land where I'm unbalanced and relying so heavily on one character. Once they go, it's much harder to win. So if they die and my other two are healthy, I may cycle out and try a diff match, expending one health pack instead of three.0
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If the enemy team is getting everything in their favor like a huge cascade on almost every move and repeatedly firing off powers then I'm out. Or if I forget to bring the best team for a pve node then I'll retreat. What sucks is when you stay too long in a fight hoping you can turn it back in your favor to pull out the victory only to see the enemy get a lucky cascade and you're like "Well, I'm dead. Retreat retreat retreat!!!!" but the game says "Haha. Nope."
Been playing this game for a year now and still waiting for the enemy to retreat.0 -
shardwick said:
Been playing this game for a year now and still waiting for the enemy to retreat.
If your lowest level team member is 200+ levels about their highest, it should be an auto win, but you take a small amount of damage.2 -
When my dinner is ready.1
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I would do certain conditions like the enemy team is under 25% health and so many turns have been played in the match. It could also be limited to a certain amount of retreats per day by the enemy team.0
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