Power Gem Season Updates (9/18/17)

Brigby

Hi Everyone,

In the Power Gem Season, Lockjaw (Royal Bulldog) and Elektra (Assassin) will be entering packs. Lockjaw will be entering Latest status and Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) will be transitioning to Vintage status.

In addition, we will be running a truncated Versus season for the Power Gem season. The Power season will start on September 21st and conclude on October 2nd at 3:00am EDT. The season will have four Versus Tournaments instead of the usual ten.

Anon

Any reworks?

broll

Truncated season makes me think they're going to announce permanent win based PvP at the anniversary. 

bluewolf

broll said:

Truncated season makes me think they're going to announce permanent win based PvP at the anniversary. 

They normally do a shortened season just prior to the anniversary events, in order to start them near the actual anniversary date (10/3).

That clears the way for Anniversary events, which are not part of a season; last year they were all double iso, which seemed like a "programming switch" that was turned on for all game events (DDQ, PVP, PVE).

And I do not believe that they are 100% committed to win based PVP.  I would not assume this yet, not that it is imminent.  They will want to examine the data first from this test.

broll

bluewolf said:

And I do not believe that they are 100% committed to win based PVP.  I would not assume this yet, not that it is imminent.  They will want to examine the data first from this test.

That sounds overly optimistic. I thought they were going to do more tests before implementing SCL based scaling. If you don't count the redo test they did 2 with launch immediately following the second. 

Borstock

We have had multiple win-based PvP tests. I think we definitely know which way the wind is blowing at this point. 

shardwick

Hoping for a hybrid test or two before they commit to a final pvp format but we probably won't get it.

Phillipes

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

Doc L

Nah, we had truncated seasons the last two years beforehand, that's not a massive surprise. Not saying this isn't a permanent change to progression additionally, but it isn't a surprise at all this is shorter.

Crowl

Phillipes said:

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

While the numbers seem somewhat high for the rewards, there is one clear positive to this new pvp system in that you can actually pick up and play a game or two whenever you want as they all add to your progress, which isn't the case for most people in regular pvp and most definitely isn't the case for pve if you are playing even remotely optimally.

Nick441234

Phillipes said:

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

Is it? I've already racked up 31 wins, just playing every now and again inbetween PVE clears. This is miles better than having to worry about points all the time. 

Gari

The winners at pvp will hate the new system the losers will love it. Because their original playstyle is no longer an issue.

//Removed Insult - Brigby

animaniactoo

Gari said:

The winners at pvp will hate the new system the losers will love it. Because their original playstyle is no longer an issue. 

//Removed Insult -Brigby

Interesting. I'd think that their original playstyle would still be an issue since you actually have to win matches to get anything useful out of it. Enough in a short enough period of time that you can't just keep tossing healthpacks and new characters at it unless you're playing the game like it's your job and you have money/hp to burn on healthpacks.

Dragon_Nexus

Borstock said:

We have had multiple win-based PvP tests. I think we definitely know which way the wind is blowing at this point. 

Multiple? This is only the second run of tests they've done.

broll

Dragon_Nexus said:

Borstock said:

We have had multiple win-based PvP tests. I think we definitely know which way the wind is blowing at this point. 

Multiple? This is only the second run of tests they've done.

Which is only one more than the SCL based scaling tests they did.  The extra one was really a re-do of the first since there was an actual bug.  Were it not for they would have tested the same thing in two scenarios and deployed it.  

These test seem to be less about seeing if the players like it and more about confirm there are no coding bugs before they make it live.  The more I ponder on it the more likely it seems we're getting this as is soon.  While I like it better than current PvP I hope I'm wrong because there is certainly significant room for improvement.

Orion

nick_chicane said:

Phillipes said:

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

Is it? I've already racked up 31 wins, just playing every now and again inbetween PVE clears. This is miles better than having to worry about points all the time. 

So you obviously don't care about the placement CP.  For those of us that do care, this version of PvP is terrible.

Nick441234

Orion said:

nick_chicane said:

Phillipes said:

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

Is it? I've already racked up 31 wins, just playing every now and again inbetween PVE clears. This is miles better than having to worry about points all the time. 

So you obviously don't care about the placement CP.  For those of us that do care, this version of PvP is terrible.

Plenty of CP to be earned in the progression rewards and elsewhere. Its really not that big of a deal. You come away with more rewards this way than previously. 

DyingLegend

nick_chicane said:

Orion said:

nick_chicane said:

Phillipes said:

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

Is it? I've already racked up 31 wins, just playing every now and again inbetween PVE clears. This is miles better than having to worry about points all the time. 

So you obviously don't care about the placement CP.  For those of us that do care, this version of PvP is terrible.

Plenty of CP to be earned in the progression rewards and elsewhere. Its really not that big of a deal. You come away with more rewards this way than previously. 

The experience of PVP was so much less stressful that i dont care that the CP was moved as a placement reward.

Beer40

Carol getting replaced by Lockjaw is the worst part of this news, IMO.

Qubort

nick_chicane said:

Orion said:

nick_chicane said:

Phillipes said:

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

Is it? I've already racked up 31 wins, just playing every now and again inbetween PVE clears. This is miles better than having to worry about points all the time. 

So you obviously don't care about the placement CP.  For those of us that do care, this version of PvP is terrible.

Plenty of CP to be earned in the progression rewards and elsewhere. Its really not that big of a deal. You come away with more rewards this way than previously. 

The CP taken out of progression wasn't added else where so it is a big deal. Over the course of a season that adds up to a lot. This new method takes the rarest commodity in the game and makes it rarer.

Roland113

Qubort said:

nick_chicane said:

Orion said:

nick_chicane said:

Phillipes said:

Terrible thing is that I don´t like "normal" PVP. But this new PVP is even worse.

Is it? I've already racked up 31 wins, just playing every now and again inbetween PVE clears. This is miles better than having to worry about points all the time. 

So you obviously don't care about the placement CP.  For those of us that do care, this version of PvP is terrible.

Plenty of CP to be earned in the progression rewards and elsewhere. Its really not that big of a deal. You come away with more rewards this way than previously. 

The CP taken out of progression wasn't added else where so it is a big deal. Over the course of a season that adds up to a lot. This new method takes the rarest commodity in the game and makes it rarer.

Wait, I thought ISO was the rarest commodity?