Jaedenkaal said: talleman said: Seams pretty decent. Will have to wait until i see max level stats before i make an opinion tho Why not just compare them to the level 70 stats of anyone else you like? The ratios between any two powers will be the same at any level.Ok, here. Level 270, 5 covers~16464 HP (same as war machine, whatever that is)Loyal Protector: ~1611 damage, resist 100% damageResonance Frequency (U): ~2672 damage, destroy 7 random tiles in enemy's strongest colorBring Out The Best (Y): ~1541 burst healingQuasi-Sonic Whisper (G): ~1806 damage, destroy middle two rowsHair Meddle (P): Swap 16 pairs of tiles, steal enemy A/P/S and strengthen stolen tiles by ~269Some Say The World: ~1624 damage, A/P/S tile strength ~117Cull The Weak: ~1626 damage and stun other enemies for 1 turnThe Dog That Bit You: Creates 8 Charged tiles. ~993 damage each turn if there's a charged tile in the enemy's strongest color.
talleman said: Seams pretty decent. Will have to wait until i see max level stats before i make an opinion tho
sinnerjfl said: Jaedenkaal said: talleman said: Seams pretty decent. Will have to wait until i see max level stats before i make an opinion tho Why not just compare them to the level 70 stats of anyone else you like? The ratios between any two powers will be the same at any level.Ok, here. Level 270, 5 covers~16464 HP (same as war machine, whatever that is)Loyal Protector: ~1611 damage, resist 100% damageResonance Frequency (U): ~2672 damage, destroy 7 random tiles in enemy's strongest colorBring Out The Best (Y): ~1541 burst healingQuasi-Sonic Whisper (G): ~1806 damage, destroy middle two rowsHair Meddle (P): Swap 16 pairs of tiles, steal enemy A/P/S and strengthen stolen tiles by ~269Some Say The World: ~1624 damage, A/P/S tile strength ~117Cull The Weak: ~1626 damage and stun other enemies for 1 turnThe Dog That Bit You: Creates 8 Charged tiles. ~993 damage each turn if there's a charged tile in the enemy's strongest color. How did you arrive at those numbers anyway? What's the ratio?Im pretty bad at math.
zulux21 said: sinnerjfl said: Jaedenkaal said: talleman said: Seams pretty decent. Will have to wait until i see max level stats before i make an opinion tho Why not just compare them to the level 70 stats of anyone else you like? The ratios between any two powers will be the same at any level.Ok, here. Level 270, 5 covers~16464 HP (same as war machine, whatever that is)Loyal Protector: ~1611 damage, resist 100% damageResonance Frequency (U): ~2672 damage, destroy 7 random tiles in enemy's strongest colorBring Out The Best (Y): ~1541 burst healingQuasi-Sonic Whisper (G): ~1806 damage, destroy middle two rowsHair Meddle (P): Swap 16 pairs of tiles, steal enemy A/P/S and strengthen stolen tiles by ~269Some Say The World: ~1624 damage, A/P/S tile strength ~117Cull The Weak: ~1626 damage and stun other enemies for 1 turnThe Dog That Bit You: Creates 8 Charged tiles. ~993 damage each turn if there's a charged tile in the enemy's strongest color. How did you arrive at those numbers anyway? What's the ratio?Im pretty bad at math. in general you look at the level 70 numbers and merely multiply by 2 to get pretty close to the level 270 numbers aside from health.
Player1575 said: sinnerjfl said: Jaedenkaal said: talleman said: Seams pretty decent. Will have to wait until i see max level stats before i make an opinion tho Why not just compare them to the level 70 stats of anyone else you like? The ratios between any two powers will be the same at any level.Ok, here. Level 270, 5 covers~16464 HP (same as war machine, whatever that is)Loyal Protector: ~1611 damage, resist 100% damageResonance Frequency (U): ~2672 damage, destroy 7 random tiles in enemy's strongest colorBring Out The Best (Y): ~1541 burst healingQuasi-Sonic Whisper (G): ~1806 damage, destroy middle two rowsHair Meddle (P): Swap 16 pairs of tiles, steal enemy A/P/S and strengthen stolen tiles by ~269Some Say The World: ~1624 damage, A/P/S tile strength ~117Cull The Weak: ~1626 damage and stun other enemies for 1 turnThe Dog That Bit You: Creates 8 Charged tiles. ~993 damage each turn if there's a charged tile in the enemy's strongest color. How did you arrive at those numbers anyway? What's the ratio?Im pretty bad at math. If those numbers are accurate they seem really low. The most damage he can put out with a single ability is <3000?
Dunamis101 said: Player1575 said: If those numbers are accurate they seem really low. The most damage he can put out with a single ability is <3000? His damage output is terrible, for both his blue and his green. His passive requires enemy special tile matches. There are better places to spend 9ap on a blue ability, no matter what inhuman comes out the damage isn't worth 9ap. His only decent power is green, his passive doesn't do too much damage on that either at max level.
Player1575 said: If those numbers are accurate they seem really low. The most damage he can put out with a single ability is <3000?
Jaedenkaal said: Dunamis101 said: Player1575 said: If those numbers are accurate they seem really low. The most damage he can put out with a single ability is <3000? His damage output is terrible, for both his blue and his green. His passive requires enemy special tile matches. There are better places to spend 9ap on a blue ability, no matter what inhuman comes out the damage isn't worth 9ap. His only decent power is green, his passive doesn't do too much damage on that either at max level. I'm pretty confident to within a few %. I'm assuming the damage is low due to his apparently very favorable interactions with Medusa.
fahq1977 said: Jaedenkaal is fairly on point with his numbers. Here's what I have with a rostered 270 lockjaw:Stats16465 HealthMatch damage - Y85/B74/P12/R13/G65/B11Loyal Protector (Yellow)3 covers = 50% dmg resist and 631 damage4 covers = 75% dmg resist and 973 damage5 covers = 100% dmg resist and 1609 damageThe Dog that Bit You (Green)3 covers = 6 random tiles and 378 dmg4 covers = 6 random tiles and 990 dmg5 covers = 8 random tiles and 990 dmgRoyal Escort (Blue)Not going into each permutation because I'm lazy. But I can confirm that the only thing that goes down with 4 or 3 covers in blue is the amount of damage, heal, or special tile strength. Medusa swaps 16, Quake destroys up to 7, and Karnak stuns for 1 turn at cover levels 3-5.at 5 covers:Quake/Blue - destroys 7 tiles and 2705 damageKK/Yellow - 2490 burst healBlack Bolt/Green - 1804 damage and middle 2 rows destroyedMedusa/Purple - Swap 16 tiles and improve strike/prot/attack by 365Crystal/Red - Deal 1804 damage and create Red attack, Blue Protect and Black strike tile of 167 eachKarnak/Black - 3157 damage to lowest health enemy and stun all other enemies for 1 turn.Summary OpinionLockjaw is FUNNNNNNN. Like, the most fun I've had with a character since Howard. The passive animations are amusing but super quick, and that damage over time with Dog That Bit You adds up. I ran him with Medusa (duh) and Blade and stuff dies fast while the team heals up. I haven't yet tried with 4hor, but I agree with the person in this thread that if she is powered up, Lockjaw and IM40 would make quick work of many. He's such a versatile 3rd, but as DrDevil Dino said, he is not easily worked into the Meta game. He doesn't accelerate many toons, and his loyal protector dmg resist only stops match damage, though if he blocked all damage until the end of the turn, I think he would be a little OP.Royal escort is the most fun, partly because calculating out which color will go is about as painful as using Gwenpool strategically for all possible situations, so you get a nice surprise when using is mostly. And they all work well, though personally I like Quake and Medusa arrivals best (EDIT: note, brief animations for each Inhuman, just the effect).Well worth getting if you enjoy the fun and play with a lot of special tiles, but not a must have 4. Nonetheless, great job, D3. EDIT - Can confirm, he works well with Mordo. You can get a nice charged tile chain going. If they are both boosted, it could be annoying to face.
fahq1977 said (emphasis mine): (snip)Royal escort is the most fun, partly because calculating out which color will go is about as painful as using Gwenpool strategically for all possible situations, so you get a nice surprise when using is mostly. And they all work well, though personally I like Quake and Medusa arrivals best (EDIT: note, brief animations for each Inhuman, just the effect).(snip)
Reecoh said: If you have Kamala Kahn in your group and use Lockjaw's Royal Escort to summon Kamala Kahn you get a heal from the summoned Kamala Kahn and then another heal from your teammate Kamala Kahn b/c Lockjaw used a power to summon Kamala Kahn.
WalrusGooner said: Reecoh said: If you have Kamala Kahn in your group and use Lockjaw's Royal Escort to summon Kamala Kahn you get a heal from the summoned Kamala Kahn and then another heal from your teammate Kamala Kahn b/c Lockjaw used a power to summon Kamala Kahn. I'm too lazy to do it myself, but this just about demands an Xzibit meme.
zodiac339 said: What, like, "Yo dawg, I heard you like burst healz, so I put some Kamala in your Kamala so you can 'whoosh, ding' while you 'whoosh ding'."