Clarity on Elite Pack Rerolls.

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  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    Ohboy said:

    Conveniently ignores the fact that your so called bullies are the ones being attacked here. By people such as you. 

    Of course he had to contribute his valuable "two cents".  It's a losing battle.

    mournfen said:
    Sorry everyone never intended it to get like this....again. I can say I saw this coming, but truthfully I just wanted some clarity. Yet I get to chalk this up to yet another question ignored. Which is really messed up. It would be far less infuriating if I didn't see other people get responded to on other posts. Even more so if someone would have provided the entire player base with some rules on this tinykitty in the beginning. Could have saved numerous threads and countless unnecessary arguments. All by answering a simple question. What are the rules on rerolling!? Since that isn't ever getting answered what happened to the implementation of a system to prevent dupes, this was initially promised, never officially retracted.

    To answer your question directly, since you're unable to determine it indirectly:

    Use logic.  Roll on a pack where you have a low chance for a dupe.  If you proc a dupe, send a ticket to support and see what they say.

    In the future, if you create a post where you know you're stirring up a heated debate, don't ostracize the participants for getting in a heated debate.

  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    ZW2007- said:
    Steeme said:
    We made a conscious decision to follow the rules as laid out.
    We've discussed this before but I'll say it again; you guys made up the rules. There were never any official rules posted that said this is the way it is, end of story. If it was a rule then Brigby would have been more clear on the matter and not left it up to interpretation like he did. If it was cheating or exploiting then the accounts in question would have been banned like those caught using an actual hacked version of the game. 

    That's incorrect.  We already provided a link to the official forum post stating the rules for elite pack re-rolls.  The fact that it's not being enforced does not imply that we "made up the rules".  So basically the rest of your post is nullified.  I don't really care for your personal attacks, nor do they really affect me in any way.

    Players got away with it, and now you're here to gloat.  This is really quite entertaining because what you don't realize is that I don't care.  Go ahead and game the system all you like.  All you're doing is guaranteeing that D3H will never throw the community a bone again.

  • Matthew
    Matthew Posts: 605 Critical Contributor
    Steeme said:

    ...what you don't realize is that I don't care.

    If you really don't care, then why even bother responding?
  • mournfen
    mournfen Posts: 89 Match Maker
    Steeme said:
    ZW2007- said:
    Steeme said:
    We made a conscious decision to follow the rules as laid out.
    We've discussed this before but I'll say it again; you guys made up the rules. There were never any official rules posted that said this is the way it is, end of story. If it was a rule then Brigby would have been more clear on the matter and not left it up to interpretation like he did. If it was cheating or exploiting then the accounts in question would have been banned like those caught using an actual hacked version of the game. 

    That's incorrect.  We already provided a link to the official forum post stating the rules for elite pack re-rolls.  The fact that it's not being enforced does not imply that we "made up the rules".  So basically the rest of your post is nullified.  I don't really care for your personal attacks, nor do they really affect me in any way.

    Players got away with it, and now you're here to gloat.  This is really quite entertaining because what you don't realize is that I don't care.  Go ahead and game the system all you like.  All you're doing is guaranteeing that D3H will never throw the community a bone again.

    This is exactly what I am talking about I read the previous thread and it says if you get a dupe to get a one time reroll. Once again ambiguity here. Is it one reroll solely on that pack and only that pack? Or is it a one time reroll each time you open a dupe in the pack that was suppose to have a very limited chance at a dupe? If contextually you want to see it as one reroll, one time and only one time; why then was it at a later time stated that they put a limit to the rerolls. Your interpretation, as mine, mean nothing. So how do you quell the argument, that IMO has more support for multiple rerolls. Someone that knows i.e., a Dev or Moderator that speaks to Devs answer us. Maybe you are correct and it is a one time thing, D3 just realized what a colossal failure EP's are due to the extraordinarily high number of dupes. 
  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    Matthew said:
    Steeme said:

    ...what you don't realize is that I don't care.

    If you really don't care, then why even bother responding?


    I was just calling you up on your gloat post, that's all.  I thought it was obvious.

    mournfen said:
    This is exactly what I am talking about I read the previous thread and it says if you get a dupe to get a one time reroll. Once again ambiguity here. Is it one reroll solely on that pack and only that pack? Or is it a one time reroll each time you open a dupe in the pack that was suppose to have a very limited chance at a dupe? If contextually you want to see it as one reroll, one time and only one time; why then was it at a later time stated that they put a limit to the rerolls. Your interpretation, as mine, mean nothing. So how do you quell the argument, that IMO has more support for multiple rerolls. Someone that knows i.e., a Dev or Moderator that speaks to Devs answer us. Maybe you are correct and it is a one time thing, D3 just realized what a colossal failure EP's are due to the extraordinarily high number of dupes. 

    D3H caved.  Policy is out the window.  Go nuts.  Reroll to your heart's content.


  • mournfen
    mournfen Posts: 89 Match Maker
    edited July 2017
    Steeme said:
    Matthew said:
    Steeme said:

    ...what you don't realize is that I don't care.

    If you really don't care, then why even bother responding?


    I was just calling you up on your gloat post, that's all.  I thought it was obvious.

    mournfen said:
    This is exactly what I am talking about I read the previous thread and it says if you get a dupe to get a one time reroll. Once again ambiguity here. Is it one reroll solely on that pack and only that pack? Or is it a one time reroll each time you open a dupe in the pack that was suppose to have a very limited chance at a dupe? If contextually you want to see it as one reroll, one time and only one time; why then was it at a later time stated that they put a limit to the rerolls. Your interpretation, as mine, mean nothing. So how do you quell the argument, that IMO has more support for multiple rerolls. Someone that knows i.e., a Dev or Moderator that speaks to Devs answer us. Maybe you are correct and it is a one time thing, D3 just realized what a colossal failure EP's are due to the extraordinarily high number of dupes. 

    D3H caved.  Policy is out the window.  Go nuts.  Reroll to your heart's content.


    Wow, victim much? You obviously have missed everything not in your narrow thought process. Most players haven't gone crazy with rerolls, only a few. Since it was stated that if you get a dupe don't hesitate to ask for a reroll, then only one reroll, back to limited rerolls they didn't cave simply reverted to a more successful model for player appeasement. Instead of focusing on everything you have chosen to ignore 2/3 of what was said. Tell me how lonely is it on your so called moral high ground? Not that anyone cheated the system, strictly your perception. Have you asked for a reroll? 

    I digress this just adds to the surface issue. Causing arguments amongst the player base. When lack of communication is the real issue.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Actually it's always been only one Reroll. The policy just changed to limited rerolls later on. They caved. 

    I would release my private conversations with brigby, but it's best if he would just come out and say it. 

    Seriously @Brigby, if you're not going to do the clarification yourself, you really can't blame me for quoting our private conversations. 
  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    mournfen said:
    Steeme said:


    D3H caved.  Policy is out the window.  Go nuts.  Reroll to your heart's content.

    Wow, victim much? You obviously have missed everything not in your narrow thought process. Most players haven't gone crazy with rerolls, only a few. Since it was stated that if you get a dupe don't hesitate to ask for a reroll, then only one reroll, back to limited rerolls they didn't cave simply reverted to a more successful model for player appeasement. Instead of focusing on everything you have chosen to ignore 2/3 of what was said. Tell me how lonely is it on your so called moral high ground? Not that anyone cheated the system, strictly your perception. Have you asked for a reroll? 

    I digress this just adds to the surface issue. Causing arguments amongst the player base. When lack of communication is the real issue.

    Stop trolling.  You created a post asking for clarification.  You got it.  Why stir up confrontation and fling petty insults?  Just take the information and work with it.  Reroll to your heart's content.  Like Ohboy stated above, this was a recent change.  Hence the gloat posts from the others.


  • mournfen
    mournfen Posts: 89 Match Maker
    edited July 2017
    Steeme said:
    mournfen said:
    Steeme said:


    D3H caved.  Policy is out the window.  Go nuts.  Reroll to your heart's content.

    Wow, victim much? You obviously have missed everything not in your narrow thought process. Most players haven't gone crazy with rerolls, only a few. Since it was stated that if you get a dupe don't hesitate to ask for a reroll, then only one reroll, back to limited rerolls they didn't cave simply reverted to a more successful model for player appeasement. Instead of focusing on everything you have chosen to ignore 2/3 of what was said. Tell me how lonely is it on your so called moral high ground? Not that anyone cheated the system, strictly your perception. Have you asked for a reroll? 

    I digress this just adds to the surface issue. Causing arguments amongst the player base. When lack of communication is the real issue.

    Stop trolling.  You created a post asking for clarification.  You got it.  Why stir up confrontation and fling petty insults?  Just take the information and work with it.  Reroll to your heart's content.  Like Ohboy stated above, this was a recent change.  Hence the gloat posts from the others.


    First ohboy your private conversation is useless to the rest of us. What someone tells you privately and does not release to public doesn't make it so, as all official releases are contrary to what you are saying. Second steeme I opened a thread to ask a question to someone that is a direct rep, you are not. Your ignorant if you think little ol'steeme with zero affiliation with D3 can clarify. You are clearly just *nope* drooling over what others have; rather than bein content with what you have. Kind of hard to troll my own post. Or maybe your unsolicited tinykitty is the trolling. I refer you to original post @Brigby not @Steeme

    ***Removed personal attack and profanity - Ducky


  • Corn_Noodles
    Corn_Noodles Posts: 477 Mover and Shaker
    @Brigby Nothing is being accomplished here. Please lock.
  • mournfen
    mournfen Posts: 89 Match Maker
    Sonthe answer is to silence my question. Ever single time someone asks a question that these 2 find someway to take offense that's the answer, silence someone? My original post didn't troll and was DIRECTED to a moderator, not the peanut gallery. No offense intended to anyone. 
  • Sarahschmara
    Sarahschmara Posts: 554 Critical Contributor
    mournfen said:
    Sonthe answer is to silence my question. Ever single time someone asks a question that these 2 find someway to take offense that's the answer, silence someone? My original post didn't troll and was DIRECTED to a moderator, not the peanut gallery. No offense intended to anyone. 
    It was a valid question @mournfen as it's been answered several times with contradictions. I sympathize with the frustration of having one's questions ignored... the most insightful questions, the ones that really deserve answers, usually are. 

    @brigby can we get an official _in game_ announcement to settle this once and for all? There still seems to be a lot of confusion on this particular topic. I suspect that the feelbads are directly related to lack of communication rather than specific policies. 
  • octal9
    octal9 Posts: 593 Critical Contributor
    Thank you, Brigby. 
  • mournfen
    mournfen Posts: 89 Match Maker
    Brigby said:
    *Please keep all comments civil, and do not attack other players! Thank you*

    Hi Everyone. It's quite apparent there is some confusion regarding this Elite Pack policy. The policy has evolved a bit since its initial introduction, so I will officially confirm what the current policy details are:

    If a player receives any duplicate card in a Mythic+ Elite Pack, they can submit a Support Ticket requesting a re-roll. You are allowed up to 2 re-rolls before your ticket is escalated, provided that each of those re-rolls resulted in another duplicate. At that point, your ticket will be evaluated further to determine accreditation of a final Elite Pack re-roll. This process is repeatable for each unique Elite Pack, duplicate instance.

    Thank you very much! I assume this does not reflect the Rare+ Pack. Thank you once again
  • Brigby
    Brigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 7,757 Site Admin
    mournfen said:
    Thank you very much! I assume this does not reflect the Rare+ Pack. Thank you once again
    Yes. That's correct. This policy does not apply to the Rare+ Pack.
  • wickedwitch74
    wickedwitch74 Posts: 267 Mover and Shaker
    Brigby said:
    mournfen said:
    Thank you very much! I assume this does not reflect the Rare+ Pack. Thank you once again
    Yes. That's correct. This policy does not apply to the Rare+ Pack.
    @Brigby

    Thank you for clarifying the policy.

    That said... it's dumb. Please ask the development team to just remove owned cards from the list, just like they do with the Planeswalkers offered in the vault.

    Why waste everyone's time with this silly, nerve-wracking, time-consuming approach? 
  • madwren
    madwren Posts: 2,259 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2017
    Steeme said:

    We made a conscious decision to follow the rules as laid out.  Where I come from, following the rules is something to be commended, and respected.  And yet you seem to turn that against us for some reason.


    I'm just curious, do you always obey the speed limit, or do you sometimes drive faster than it?  If you do, do you shake your fist at everyone going 5-6mph over?

    I don't have a horse in this race, but trying to turn it into an example of moral rectitude seems a bit over the top.
  • sjechua
    sjechua Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    @Brigby Could we please have the updated policy stated in game, preferably when you tap on the 'i' for information in the Vault?!
  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    madwren said:
    Steeme said:

    We made a conscious decision to follow the rules as laid out.  Where I come from, following the rules is something to be commended, and respected.  And yet you seem to turn that against us for some reason.


    I'm just curious, do you always obey the speed limit, or do you sometimes drive faster than it?  If you do, do you shake your fist at everyone going 5-6mph over?

    I don't have a horse in this race, but trying to turn it into an example of moral rectitude seems a bit over the top.

    Not sure what you are trying to say, as it's not related.

    As Brigby stated, the policy changed.  That is all we were saying.  Pouncing on us and claiming that we "made up our own rules" and that it was "our own fault" was just plain abusive.

    You can't keep poking a bear with a stick and expect him to keep sleeping.

    Now that everything has been cleared up, just end this thread.

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