How do I test a new deck? aka Nothing to do?

ManiiNames
ManiiNames Posts: 213 Tile Toppler
in MtGPQ General Discussion
Quick battle is gone.  Fine, NP.  But now there is no 'Training Grounds' event available either?  How do we test the changesI just made to my deck?

Frankly, there is nothing to do right now except play the Arena event.  That's one match for me every 8 hours or whatever.  And if you don't own both of the special planes walkers you have no chance of placing well.
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  • Dsagent
    Dsagent Posts: 73 Match Maker
    Play story?
  • Gormhaus
    Gormhaus Posts: 190 Tile Toppler
    I was just about to post this.
  • AngelForge
    AngelForge Posts: 325 Mover and Shaker
    Once you actively decide to go to platinum and start to master all cards that you own.... You have quite a lot to do!
    Of course, may not be entertaining for you.

    I missed the training grounds today as well.

    @Brigby
    Any official comment on that?
  • Phillmoore
    Phillmoore Posts: 207 Tile Toppler
    Play story.    Argahghagahag.   I don't want to play story.  I want quick battle.  Or at least training grounds.  The story is boring.  It is my least favourite part of this game.  Why not get rid of that and bring back QB.    I lost all three matches this morning to stupid Colour drops and now have nothing to do  for another 3 hours.  

    So if I'm not playing their game maybe I'll start another like Star Wars heroes or dare i say Clash!  And this is how people will drift away from what has been a very captivating game.  

    Gosh that sounds like a tantrum.   Not good for a 54 year old.  But seriously.  Why have a good game and then give us nothing to do for hours on end .....  other than story! What happens when we complete that?   

    No coalition game either so why so why have a coalition if no challenges for them
     
    Come on D3, listen to the players and give us something to play! 


  • AngelForge
    AngelForge Posts: 325 Mover and Shaker
    I was also thinking that they maybe run less events now, because they want to hotfix certain issues first?

    But that still wouldn't explain the lack of training grounds, would it?
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2017
    Yeah, it's the weekend! Why is there no content? There is one lone event currently active.

    My own theory is that the UI/UX team deliberately sabotaged the coalition events because they thought the events screen wasn't blue enough...
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    [tinfoil hat]
    Seems a bit suspicious that the new set is coming up, and they're giving us a bunch of offers to buy to try and drain our crystal reserves in advance, and now all the events have disappeared so we can't earn crystals that way, doesn't it?
    [/tinfoil hat]
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Almost as if there were problems with the event system from being forced to roll out too early isn't it? 

    You're a software engineer(with many years of experience!)  shteev. What happens when a client demands for an update early and the project manager caves? 

    Additional training grounds and trials were bugs that were beneficial to players, but if you're going to insist they stomp out bugs with all due haste... A bug is a bug is a bug. 

    It looks like they're just taking as many events as they can offline till they can fix the whole thing. 
  • AngelForge
    AngelForge Posts: 325 Mover and Shaker
    shteev said:
    [tinfoil hat]
    Seems a bit suspicious that the new set is coming up, and they're giving us a bunch of offers to buy to try and drain our crystal reserves in advance, and now all the events have disappeared so we can't earn crystals that way, doesn't it?
    [/tinfoil hat]
    Damn, you could be right! And I downed 480 crystals on black cards for the chase after "grip of desolation"!
    I won't tell how it ended. It's a sad story...
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy said:
    Almost as if there were problems with the event system from being forced to roll out too early isn't it? 

    You're a software engineer(with many years of experience!)  shteev. What happens when a client demands for an update early and the project manager caves? 

    Additional training grounds and trials were bugs that were beneficial to players, but if you're going to insist they stomp out bugs with all due haste... A bug is a bug is a bug. 

    It looks like they're just taking as many events as they can offline till they can fix the whole thing. 
    It's so far taken a month longer to release AKH than it did for KLD. All of the broken events they are currently trying to run predate version 2.0. And the vast majority of the 2.0 update was changes to the UI, and as we all know, the UI/UX team is cordoned off from the rest of the dev team and no interaction between them occurs.

    They've had time.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Oop, remember? 
  • Volrak
    Volrak Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    shteev said:

    It's so far taken a month longer to release AKH than it did for KLD.
    There's no reason to expect AKH should be ready by now.

    Design work can only start after the devs see the paper card designs.  By the measure of time from paper pre-release events to mtgpq release, AER took 2 weeks, and AKH has been 2 weeks so far, for a set we can expect to be over 3 times the size of AER.  KLD took 10 weeks, although that was when they were still playing catch-up.

    I'll also put it out there that careful card design is, perhaps, a teensy bit more important than rushing to release at the earliest possible date.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy said:
    Oop, remember? 
    Object Oriented Programming is a way that you can ensure that legacy code is never broken when new code is introduced into the project. That's an important part of the philosophy of it.

    Are you a programmer? I can never tell. Sometimes you seem to have what looks like a detailed knowledge of the workings of computers, and sometimes you seem to think that the most trivial of programming problems are insumountable.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2017
    Volrak said:
    shteev said:

    It's so far taken a month longer to release AKH than it did for KLD.
    There's no reason to expect AKH should be ready by now.
    Agreed. They couldn't start working on AKH until they saw the spoiler, released a week before the pre-release.

    It's therefore been 2 1/2 months between the release of AER for MTGPQ on Jan 27th, and the release of the AKH spoiler on April 15th.

    What have they been doing in that time, during which, for the first time in MTGPQ, they have not been playing catchup?
  • UweTellkampf
    UweTellkampf Posts: 376 Mover and Shaker
    shteev said:
    [tinfoil hat]
    Seems a bit suspicious that the new set is coming up, and they're giving us a bunch of offers to buy to try and drain our crystal reserves in advance, and now all the events have disappeared so we can't earn crystals that way, doesn't it?
    [/tinfoil hat]
    Or, you know, they realized that last week they by mistake gave us 2 TG more, and those incredible 30 crystals were seen as a too big gift from their side, so now they have to let us miss 2 TG.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2017
    shteev said:
    Ohboy said:
    Oop, remember? 
    Object Oriented Programming is a way that you can ensure that legacy code is never broken when new code is introduced into the project. That's an important part of the philosophy of it.

    Are you a programmer? I can never tell. Sometimes you seem to have what looks like a detailed knowledge of the workings of computers, and sometimes you seem to think that the most trivial of programming problems are insumountable.

    You criticized(quite correctly) that they were obviously not using oop or at least some form of single point control in the game. 

    They've since been moving in that direction, most notably the move from QB into their event framework. 

    Oop isn't magic. It's supposed to help ensure projects moving forward don't break the ones that came before. It doesn't magically make previous code work. In fact, that's a major problem when updating code to a new framework, which is why banks are still using code written in the 70s.

    PS: your link is broken. 
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy said:
    PS: your link is broken. 

    http://forums.d3go.com/discussion/comment/628296/#Comment_628296

    There ya go.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Saying your proposed algorithm was overly simplistic and open to abuse is not the same as saying a problem is insurmountable. 

  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2017
    Ohboy said:
    Saying your proposed algorithm was overly simplistic and open to abuse is not the same as saying a problem is insurmountable.
    Clearly, the problem was trivial to solve, and that is not how you framed it.
  • BluSphere
    BluSphere Posts: 1 Just Dropped In
    Go play around In heroic story mode.
    If you haven't completed the 
    Encounters already it's an opportunity 
    To get a few crystals.
    You can cycle through all your decks and 
    Make tweeks accordingly.
    The game decks are challenging enough.
    It's not the same as grinding through your
    Decks in Quick battle but definitely a great 
    Way to test deck changes.

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