Training grounds is boring.

Urzashead
Urzashead Posts: 64 Match Maker
in MtGPQ General Discussion
Really need to do something better. Be nice if they alternated training grounds with a quick battle event every other day. Or come up with a different way to do training grounds. Once u get the rewards there is no point in playing it. 
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  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    I really don't understand why they removed the perpetual event of QB.  It allows the addicts to get their fix.  Isnt that what the game creators want?
  • Yvendros
    Yvendros Posts: 202 Tile Toppler
    it's nice that there have been 2 each day.  or maybe that was just me?  that wouldn't make sense though.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    babar3355 said:
    I really don't understand why they removed the perpetual event of QB.  It allows the addicts to get their fix.  Isnt that what the game creators want?
    i think they don't like the fact that there was no non-competitive space in the game. TG fills that niche, but, can't we have BOTH TG and QB?
  • Urzashead
    Urzashead Posts: 64 Match Maker
    Is what im thinking. Qb was popular for a reason. Yes rewards. But also competing for thos rewards in a competitive competition. 
  • Mburn7
    Mburn7 Posts: 3,427 Chairperson of the Boards
    The issue (as I understand it) was that cheating was rampant, and (more importantly) it was boring.  Putting in days worth of time to get 10 crystals and a few thousand runes just wasn't fun for a lot of people anymore (although the top players did love their free mythics and packs).  Every deck was a variation of a Zoo deck.  The training grounds allows you to grind, but with guaranteed rewards and less pressure to rush through.  I think its great, since I can play my older decks and not worry about time or only getting 100 runes as a reward
  • wickedwitch74
    wickedwitch74 Posts: 267 Mover and Shaker
    I also like it. It's an EZ PZ, low stress way to get 15 gems and 1000 runes in under thirty minutes. Thumbs up.


  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    I like that is a quick easy way to get crystals and runes, but there should be some ongoing daily leaderboard event to keep things interesting. Maybe something different from QB, which had its share of problems, but something to keep the competition fun. Maybe an inter-coalition race? Or coalition-vs-coalition challenge?  Those of you who played in those late qb brackets and fought for top ten know the fun that an hour-long qb crunch can be sometimes. Unfortunately, we'll never get that in Training Grounds. 
  • Kyokudai
    Kyokudai Posts: 38 Just Dropped In

    wickedwitch74 said:
    I also like it. It's an EZ PZ, low stress way to get 15 gems and 1000 runes in under thirty minutes. Thumbs up.


    I also like training grounds better for those reasons.  Since I don't have the ultra efficient low-cost creatures I could barely get to the guaranteed uncommon level, and most of the time I might even fall below the crystals rank by the time I woke up and the event was over.

    Because of that I just started ignoring QB because it doesn't work for a new player regardless of tier with the fact that some players seemed to be intentionally remaining low tier but had those ultra efficient creatures.

  • Urzashead
    Urzashead Posts: 64 Match Maker
    I would just like to see a qb style event. Not every day but at least a few times a week. It doesn't need to have a mythic plus packs plus hundreds of crystals for a prise. Just something decent worth fighting for.
  • wereotter
    wereotter Posts: 2,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Training Grounds fails at being content for casual, non-competitive players like myself because now rather than the random pull of any deck like Quick Battle, I only fave the fully optimized Koth/Kiora/Nahiri decks everyone else used to meet progression. 

    My opinion, it's now worse than Nodes of Power, which previously was my least enjoyed event. 
  • EDHdad
    EDHdad Posts: 609 Critical Contributor
    I really enjoy Training Grounds as its own thing.  4 wins and I can stop playing.  No secondary objectives telling me that I have to cast 16 Homunculuses and win the game with 5 life or less remaining.

    I don't care for it as a replacement for Quick Battle.  The problem with Quick Battle, in my mind, is that you were in these 3,000 player brackets, and the #100 player in the first bracket got the same prize as the #100 player in the last bracket.  The incentive was to not play it, until just a few hours were left.

    I would prefer that Quick Battle had been tweaked, so that there was an incentive to start in on the first bracket (such as better prizes, or allowing people to cash out with a smaller prize and join a new bracket), or if there was no penalty for being in the first bracket (all players have 24 hours to compete, regardless of when they join the bracket).

    As it was, I spent way more time not playing Quick Battle than playing Quick Battle.  Avoid it like the plague on Friday Night, Saturday, Sunday, Monday morning, Monday afternoon, then play like crazy to try to get a top 150 spot and a guaranteed rare, which would usually turn out to be a duplicate.
  • Dsagent
    Dsagent Posts: 73 Match Maker
    EDHdad said:
    I really enjoy Training Grounds as its own thing.  4 wins and I can stop playing.  No secondary objectives telling me that I have to cast 16 Homunculuses and win the game with 5 life or less remaining.


    Yeah I love just playing the game for fun. Not having to worry about anything other than just winning. 
  • Dropspot
    Dropspot Posts: 200 Tile Toppler
    I really liked training grounds, the problem is that your comparing it to old QB, but if we analyse it as a stand alone event, it is the best event out there. Fun to play, I play with whatever pw I want and don't need to be fast. Only has progression rewards, so I don't need to bother if I lost and it is short, only 4 matches.
  • Delnai
    Delnai Posts: 187 Tile Toppler
    I agree with @Dropspot. I like TG for all the reasons people have said. It's also a bad QB replacement for all the reasons people have said. On balance, I'm personally happy with ditching QB for TG, especially with two TG running a day, since I rarely played more than 8 QB in a day and now my rune rewards are higher. 
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don't mind TG. 

    But I wish they would keep the stats for longer. Like maybe reset it every month. 

    The QB aspect I miss most is the constant goal of improving my stats. 
  • DumasAG
    DumasAG Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    Only thing I wish for is a reach progression award, like 20 per event, to allow you to obtain a rare or better of older sets. Only reason I played QB was for the (super-low, admittedly) chance to get Zendikar, Innistrad and Origins rares (one day, Harbinger of Tides, we will be together).
  • Monkeynutts85
    Monkeynutts85 Posts: 46 Just Dropped In
    Why in 27 matches so far have i played against the planeswalker i am using in 26 of them?
  • Kyokudai
    Kyokudai Posts: 38 Just Dropped In
    DumasAG said:
    Only thing I wish for is a reach progression award, like 20 per event, to allow you to obtain a rare or better of older sets. Only reason I played QB was for the (super-low, admittedly) chance to get Zendikar, Innistrad and Origins rares (one day, Harbinger of Tides, we will be together).


    I like the idea of a grindable way of getting a rare or better in the area of a progression reward.    A new player like myself had basically no chance of getting a QB rare without devoting a lot of time to maintain a position. 

    Not sure the best way of getting this in the training grounds setting, but i'd love to see it.

  • Urzashead
    Urzashead Posts: 64 Match Maker
    I think basing rewards like rare or mythic on win percent would be as cool way to give everyone a chance.  U play to ur level I think so that may help lower players.
  • Formulator
    Formulator Posts: 31 Just Dropped In
    wereotter said:
    Training Grounds fails at being content for casual, non-competitive players like myself because now rather than the random pull of any deck like Quick Battle, I only fave the fully optimized Koth/Kiora/Nahiri decks everyone else used to meet progression. 

    My opinion, it's now worse than Nodes of Power, which previously was my least enjoyed event. 
    That's what I noticed too. I just wanna mess around on my goofy Arlinn Kord Scrapheap deck. I mean, I know it's bad but it use to be a blast to play in QB. I have some "I Win" Mythics like Deploy and Olivia but that gets old. TFW you realize you may never play against an OG5 Planeswalker again...

    I have no idea how to post a picture on these new forums but here's the deck.
    https://i.imgsafe.org/a21493cfea.png

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