Skrofa said: The thing about daken though is that he is supposed to do that. It's in the power's description!Deals damage, then converts blue to green, then converts strikes to basic to deal damage again.
No he isn't.
Check the release notes, they said they fixed it.Same for Kingpin and probably all the rest too.
Bowgentle said: Skrofa said: The thing about daken though is that he is supposed to do that. It's in the power's description!Deals damage, then converts blue to green, then converts strikes to basic to deal damage again. No he isn't.Check the release notes, they said they fixed it.Same for Kingpin and probably all the rest too.
Hm... this text does imply normal gameplay functionality. Both Daken (Dark Avengers)'s and Daken (Classic)'s Chemical Reaction (Blue) ability specifically says that it will deal damage, then convert blue to green, then convert strike tiles into basic tiles, then deal damage per strike tile converted. So the power is unlike other instances of bonus or additional damage other characters have. However, we shouldn't assume this information based on text alone. We all know what happened with that during the issue with Rocket & Groot (Awesome Mix Vol. 2)'s Don't Push This Button (Green) power and passive.I'm going to ask this question with the rest of the team and will let you guys know once I've received more information regarding the Chemical Reaction's power description. We should have this information for you by tomorrow.
That is text taken from my 2* Daken (but I checked my 3* and damage amounts are the only difference).
The first sentence is flavor text and irrelevant. The second sentence describes what the power does. And what's most important to consider here is that it is ONE SENTENCE. As written it is a list of things done simultaneously. Look at the comma placement. I mean no disrespect to @Skrofa, but I think he's incorrect. I agree with @keitterman, if there was a "then" there and/or the damage details were in multiple sentences, then I could see an argument against simultaneous effect. As-is, as one sentence, without a "then", it all should happen at once. Further, before the bug, the power worked simultaneously, which I believe sets the precedence for how it should work.
Regarding Kingpin and his Wilson's Gambit power which the R129 also said was fixed (but was not):
Here again the first sentence is flavor text that can be ignored. How Kingpin differs from Daken is that his power's damage is listed in two different sentences. There still is not a "then" in there to make the power effect crystal clear, but as written, I could see an argument for either simultaneous or linear effects. That being said, as with Daken, before the bug this power used to work simultaneously, which sets the precedence for how it should work now.
@Tombstone, I look forward to hearing what you and the team decide, but the above are my thoughts/opinion. However you guys decide, I suggest clarifying the texts. Thanks in advance!
keitterman said: Although Daken's power is stated like that, it's assumed that it is a linear sequence of events, instead of simply a list of simultaneous effects. I would argue that without the word "then" anywhere in the description, it's presumptuous to assume they would happen as sequential, separate events instead of just all of the things that will happen as one event.
Deals {x} damage to the target,<br>converts 2 Basic Blue tiles to Green,<br>AND converts up to {n} friendly Strike tiles to basic tiles, dealing {y} damage per Strike tile converted.
Converts up to {n} friendly Protect tiles to Strike tiles,<br>THEN deals {x} damage.
Fortifies up to {n} friendly special tiles,<br>THEN deals {x} damage for each Fortified friendly special tile on the board,<br>if IF is an active ally, create a strength {y} Protect tile FIRST.
@Tombstone said: Hm... this text does imply normal gameplay functionality. Both Daken (Dark Avengers)'s and Daken (Classic)'s Chemical Reaction (Blue) ability specifically says that it will deal damage, then convert blue to green, then convert strike tiles into basic tiles, then deal damage per strike tile converted. So the power is unlike other instances of bonus or additional damage other characters have.
Hm... this text does imply normal gameplay functionality. Both Daken (Dark Avengers)'s and Daken (Classic)'s Chemical Reaction (Blue) ability specifically says that it will deal damage, then convert blue to green, then convert strike tiles into basic tiles, then deal damage per strike tile converted. So the power is unlike other instances of bonus or additional damage other characters have.
Tombstone said: However, we shouldn't assume this information based on text alone. We all know what happened with that during the issue with Rocket & Groot (Awesome Mix Vol. 2)'s Don't Push This Button (Green) power and passive.
However, we shouldn't assume this information based on text alone. We all know what happened with that during the issue with Rocket & Groot (Awesome Mix Vol. 2)'s Don't Push This Button (Green) power and passive.
Lytes420 said: The funny thing if this is actually the way it's supposed to function,why did it take two years or so for them to finally have it working as intended.
Jaedenkaal said: Still Sharp still not fixed as of r130; killed two Hand ninjas with a single use of it yesterday.
zodiac339 said: Jaedenkaal said: Still Sharp still not fixed as of r130; killed two Hand ninjas with a single use of it yesterday. Same with Chemical Reaction. It seems like they're trying to fix individual problems rather than figure out what they changed in the system that caused this problem.