So, who's next.

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Hello. I'm fairly new player in the process of building a 3* roster.
My recent project is Steve Rogers at 12 covers and level 153. I'll champ him ASAP: he's my current ISO-8 muncher.
But who's next?

These are the dudes I have several covers of:
Rocket & Groot - 11 covers (level 104 ATM)
Psylocke - 12 covers (level 102 ATM, will have a 13:th cover soon)
Colossus - 11 covers
Thanos - 10 covers
Gamora - 11 covers
Hulk - 9 covers
Wolverine Patch - 9 covers

As for the others, I'm far from having a reasonable amount of covers.
Human Torch, though, I have 6 covers for. Will PROBABLY win another 3 from the ongoing PVE event (if I make top 10 - currently 8 so I can still hope!) That would make 9 Human Torch covers, and there are some additional from progression in the upcoming PVE event which could land me on 11 covers.

The 3* characters I currently have champed are (maybe this information could help us decide who's next up for me):

Doctor Doom
Doctor Strange
Magneto
Black Widow
Iron Man
Bulleye
Luke Cage
Scarlet Witch
Kamala Khan

Also,
I sold some of my champed 2* in a moment of lesser knowing,
is it worth building them again even if I didn't use them ever, like Captain America / Human Torch / Bullseye / Daken / Moonstone? I don't miss them,
my roster is more happy without them - but thank you for the champ rewards.

Teskal

Build 2* again and again and again. You can champ them fast and get fast HP. 3* covers and other extras.

Only champ I was told not to add was Bagman. Sadly, because I am Spidey fan.

I loved to use Bullseye. But I'm only starting the transition from 2* to 3*. But others, my alliance members, do 2* champ again and again.

Teskal

About Iso-8. Do you horde gray tokens? I'm asking, because it looks some people do it. (Someone had 2k gray tokens, an iso-8 grave.)

Iso-8 is always an issue. Daken and Hawkeye are waiting to get some for an upgrade to champ in the moment.

I think about making 2* champs few pros here can tell more about it as I am.

Teskal

mexus wrote:

I actually don't horde anything,
I'm a big spender! I just recently learned to control myself on those Legendary Tokens (I received lots of them even during my first months of playing - characters I sold straight away for extra ISO8)
I don't do that more now and is keeping my Legendaries in my pocket until I have opened up more roster slots for my 4*.

I was lucky that a alliance member said at the beginning I shouldn't do it. I horde only HP and Legendary Tokens.

I had at the beginning 94k iso-8. Made a gray token buying session and got so many 2* covers. Hey, iso-8 I can get always back.

Sorry for being offtopic. I hope there will be soon more useful comments.

Quebbster

Teskal wrote:

Build 2* again and again and again. You can champ them fast and get fast HP. 3* covers and other extras.

Only champ I was told not to add was Bagman. Sadly, because I am Spidey fan.

I loved to use Bullseye. But I'm only starting the transition from 2* to 3*. But others, my alliance members, do 2* champ again and again.

Main reason to champ Bagman is that he gives you a Legendary token as his level 144 champion reward. On the other hand, you can only get his covers from PvP matches, so they are rare and he's not exactly useful - a pure Trophy character.

mexus wrote:

Thanks,
I'll consider it once ISO-8 start flowing in more flowingly. As for now I cannot see how I should be able to build a proper 3* roster if I have to pop 75K ISO-8 into 2* characters again but I'll keep in mind it's worth it later.

A level 144 two-star sells for 65 K ISO, so you don't actually lose that much ISO as long as you wait until it's fully champed to sell. The Little ISO you lose (about 8K I Believe) is easily compensated by the amount of HP, CP, tokens and covers you get instead.

Teskal wrote:

I had at the beginning 94k iso-8. Made a gray token buying session and got so many 2* covers. Hey, iso-8 I can get always back.

Oh you sweet summer Child... ISO will be your main limiting factor once you reach the higher tiers of play (you need around 400K ISO to max a single fourstar...) and you may end up regretting spending it so frivolously.

Teskal

Yepp, you loose ~7.5k iso-8, but get stuff much more worth like 375 HP, 5x heroic Tokens, 3x 3* Covers, few commando points and not forgetting XP.
(Just found the numbers in another thread.)


I'm regretting it already buying gray tokens. It feels like an eternity waiting to get enough iso to champ Daken and Hawkeye. No, do not really regret it. I would not have reach so much already if I had not. But I would not do it again.

Quebbster

Teskal wrote:

Yepp, you loose ~7.5k iso-8, but get stuff much more worth like 375 HP, 5x heroic Tokens, 3x 3* Covers, few commando points and not forgetting XP.
(Just found the numbers in another thread.)


I'm regretting it already buying gray tokens. It feels like an eternity waiting to get enough iso to champ Daken and Hawkeye. No, do not really regret it. I would not have reach so much already if I had not. But I would not do it again.

It's important to remember that this game is a Marathon, not a sprint. Have patience and the covers will come... eventually.

smkspy

I rather advise against a rotating 2 star farm at your stage. Yes, the rewards are okay, but it can become a major distraction from your goal of leveling up your 3 stars. It's a huge iso sink and the rewards though add up over time, are piece mealed out and the pay out of selling a 144 can loose its luster when reinvesting that iso right back into another round of 2s.

Only rotating two star that I highly recommend are Junior Cap and Hawkeye. Just to feed Lazy Cap and IM40. They are the anchors of any developing 3 star roster (maybe also moonstone because everyone wants a high level Hulk too). So the constant cover flow from those 2 character can really help out.

CT1888

For the next 3* I'd suggest Rocket and Groot, Thanos, Hulk, Patch.
If iso is flowing ok, then do Psylocke as well - you will want all 3*s champed eventually anyways.
Rocket and Groot have great sustainability due to their yellow, and work well tanking for others, absorbing the damage then healing. The tiles from blue are very strong too.
Thanos is another that will work best when tanking multiple colours. Pair him with true healers to minimise health pack use from his black (Groot and Patch, for example. R&G's blue then Patch's Green, then kill someone. Ooft. That'll hurt them big time).
Hulk and Patch can be used to Hulkbomb, a technique that allows you to take out some very powerful enemies. Selling 144 Moonstone and Wolverine to recharge would help get you the covers for those guys.

Quebbster

mexus wrote:

Made some Google investigation about the "Hulkbomb". So it's basically Hulk creating lots of greens and Patch making those greens attack tiles? Looks risky but fun!

It's more using Patch's green to put out lots of strike tiles, then using those strike tiles to pump up Hulk's Anger damage. It's fun though!

Pope Belligerent

smkspy wrote:

I rather advise against a rotating 2 star farm at your stage. Yes, the rewards are okay, but it can become a major distraction from your goal of leveling up your 3 stars. It's a huge iso sink and the rewards though add up over time, are piece mealed out and the pay out of selling a 144 can loose its luster when reinvesting that iso right back into another round of 2s.

Only rotating two star that I highly recommend are Junior Cap and Hawkeye. Just to feed Lazy Cap and IM40. They are the anchors of any developing 3 star roster (maybe also moonstone because everyone wants a high level Hulk too). So the constant cover flow from those 2 character can really help out.

I agree. Ultimately you'll want a good 2-star farm going, but for now you might want to keep it down to a handful of 2*s to use those roster spots for other things. When you maxchamp a 2*, sell it and then decide whether you want to reroster that character or go for a different character to get their cover rewards. I did this when I first started the 2-3* transition and it really helped me roster and champ all the 3*s, which in turn gave me enough HP to get a full 2* farm up and running efficiently.

smkspy

mexus wrote:

smkspy wrote:

I rather advise against a rotating 2 star farm at your stage. Yes, the rewards are okay, but it can become a major distraction from your goal of leveling up your 3 stars. It's a huge iso sink and the rewards though add up over time, are piece mealed out and the pay out of selling a 144 can loose its luster when reinvesting that iso right back into another round of 2s.

Only rotating two star that I highly recommend are Junior Cap and Hawkeye. Just to feed Lazy Cap and IM40. They are the anchors of any developing 3 star roster (maybe also moonstone because everyone wants a high level Hulk too). So the constant cover flow from those 2 character can really help out.

Nice advice.
Did you keep all your 2* characters or felt the urge to sell them off once your realized you never actually used them?

I farm my 2s now, but I'm firmly into 4 star land. During my 3 star transition, I still heavily depended upon all the 2s except,

cap, moonstone, daken, and bullseye

I would roster them for pve, but would sell that one cover for whomever was released or I pulled. I didn't start farming them until I champed all my 3s.

carrion_pigeons

Personally I feel like if there's any 2* that ought to be a priority to farm, it would be Daken. Now that they've gotten rid of locked out characters due to having them as opponents, Daken is just the most sustainable 2* character for any kind of grinding, and farming him gives you 3* Dakens which are even better.

bigsmooth

I would probably just focus on the characters you have at 10 covers. Cyclops can fuel his own red and I think his powered-up black is the strongest single-target attack among 3*. Black Panther can put out some solid strike tiles and his black is very strong if you are careful not to use it when it would enable an enemy to fire a power.

As far as Iron Fist, I wouldn't level him too much yet. He is obviously a great character, but IMO his best power is his purple. The passive strike tile is nice (and goes very well with strike tile placers) but you won't be able to level him enough for it to do much damage until you get some more covers.

Roland113

I'd say Thor, he's kind of the bread and butter for my 3 star team. I use him every day. After that, I'd go Hood and Quicksilver. One underrated character that I don't think I saw mentioned in your thread is Blade. If and when you can get Blade going, I highly recommend him. Blade and Strange (3 star) were the only two characters that I gave a 10 to in the last survey. I realize that I'm in the minority on this opinion, but pretty much with those two paired, I can take just about anything out.

Teskal

I would champ them in order of your incoming covers.

If you champ a low tier 3*, you will only loose few days till you can champ the next one.
I would not care for any order. The order in your queue tells you best who you add next.

The Character Rankings Holiday 2016 Edition - The Results are interesting how others like or use who most. There are also few informations about most characters.

Dak3n (also 2* Daken) is rank 18, but really good together with 2* Wolverine and 3* Iron Man.

LazyThor could be an option if you have 2* Thor covers in your queue and want to sell the champ one and farm 2* Thor.

MarkersMake

mexus wrote:

Who's more of a priority:

Daredevil
Deadpool ***
Dr. Octopus
Quicksilver
Captain Marvel ***
Thor ***
Daken ***
The Hood

These are the ones I have 10+ covers for at the moment.

In your original post you said that you have kamala khan champed already. I had Thor champed before KK, and used him all the time. Once I champed KK, Thor pretty much became obsolete.

She does more overall damage for less AP (therefore she does it earlier), she heals, and (while Thor's is better) she can cause cascades with her purple too.

You already have IM40 champed; fire off 1 recharge, and KK is going to light up the opposing team, with IM's blue or red ready to finish the job 2 turns later. Throw in CMags if you want, and it's a party.


TL;DR - You already have most of the real 3* game changers champed, so definitely don't spend CP on any of the 3*s you listed. I also wouldn't prioritize ISO to champ any of the above until you actually have an extra cover dying on the vine for one of them. Just go where the covers take you.

Roland113

mexus wrote:

By weekend I'll have enough ISO8 to champ another 3*. Fun but thing is, the ones I have left at 12-13 covers aren't very interesting.
Captain Marvel, Doctor Octopus, Vision, Quicksilver. The "meh" gang.

I'll also have Hawkguy at 12 or hopefully 13 covers after the next PVP,
you think he's a better choice than any of these I mentioned above?

I want to champ someone I'm going to use. I recently could champ both Iron Fist and Blade - both of which I've already used more than Gamora, Psylocke, Hulk and Daredevil all-together who's been champed since 6 months back.

I like Quicksilver. He is particularly useful in Ultron type events when you can use his black to swap something and destroy an Ultron Bomb I frequently use QS with 3* Captain America and Deadpool for a rainbow team that excels in board control. Between QS black and Cap Red and Blue, countdown tiles tend to not bother you a lot.

Every once in a while, I'll use Vision for this set up:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55227#p603156

. . . and here's a great use for Hulk:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53235

Doc Oc and Daredevil come in handy at times if you're going to face a team with Carnage or someone that keeps dropping special tiles.

As far as Gamora, Psylock and 3* Marvel, I haven't found their niche just yet.

Tatercat

A lot of people liked Quicksilver for the Kaecillus boss fight too, making it easier to match those strike tiles with his black once the cost went down (due to locked tu tiles) He can be fun to use regularly too, but he’s not a game changer.

3* Cap Marvel is underrated for her yellow. Get her to tank incoming hits and she generates a lot of red and black for your 3* Cyclops. (Or down the road, for Hulkbuster). Plus, she gives Peggy covers right now. they might change that eventually to 4* Cap Marvel, but those are good too.

Roland113

Storm is good for a Winfinite team, she's a must for me. Do Oc, has uses against tile spammers. Boosted Doc Oc is really good for the current event. The others get a 'meh' from me.

granne

Captain Marvel gives Peggy covers, for now at least.