Soooo worst event yet?

Abbot_Nalaar

This event bombed IMHO. I have saved for dovin so I am not crying about that, I have bought/won tons of the new set, I have chandra 2.0 (which kinda sucks). The issue is everyone built to win the match and not to win the extra challenges. If you did not have dovin then you will not win many points in total so why not build decks that do not care about energy? I have faced 3 energy based decks... seems like a huge flavor fail on devs part and big let down for those who were looking forward to seeing new energy synergy. I don't know how you fix it just letting the sentiment be known.

hawkyh1

energise gems is a problem, it increases the chance of
slow downs or even a crash. I think many are just
having the bare minimum energise cards to stand a
reasonable chance at the objectives. energise gems
are wasted if you don't have the cards or planeswalker
ability in play to make use of them.

HH

Scotcamp

All I seemed to play is HATE decks. Decks built to prevent you from winning the ribbons. I have never been so frustrated.

Theros

hawkyh1 wrote:

energise gems is a problem, it increases the chance of
slow downs or even a crash. I think many are just
having the bare minimum energise cards to stand a
reasonable chance at the objectives. energise gems
are wasted if you don't have the cards or planeswalker
ability in play to make use of them.

HH

fetch cards also cause problems. They slow the game when they fill up even when you turn them off.

THEMAGICkMAN

Yeah, the non-event decks suck, and there's nothing good about the planeswalker requirement, but otherwise this event is great! It feels cool, it's not a regular event and it goes for longer, forces you to constantly rebuild and change up your decks (which some people might see as a bad thing but IMHO it pushes creativity and ingenuity) and these secondarys are amazing! They're not impossible but they're difficult some of the time, and have you seen how many perfect scores are left? Despite the non-event decks and the stupid planeswalker requirement this event rocks! Hopefully they can fix the issues of non-event decks and solve the tiebreakers problem appropriately but I really like the design of this event overall!

wereotter

Scotcamp wrote:

All I seemed to play is HATE decks. Decks built to prevent you from winning the ribbons. I have never been so frustrated.

Ditto that, and absolutely non-event decks are a massive problem. Just lost all three of this morning's matches to a fully powered Koth, to Gideon and to Sorin. Those last two can't even be used in this event!

I tried to have planeswalkers and decks to meet secondary objectives so I could get the Dynavolt Tower, but seems that it's just if you already had a powerful deck from placing in the top and getting free mythics then that's the only way you'd get there this time to get yet another free mythic that you really don't need.

bk1234

My two issues are:

1. Playing nonevent decks.

and

2. The energy related freezes.

They basically gave us an event with broken matchmaking and a broken mechanic.

But I do hope they've all enjoyed their nice, long holiday.

Kevinanth

bken1234 wrote:

My two issues are:

1. Playing nonevent decks.

and

2. The energy related freezes.

They basically gave us an event with broken matchmaking and a broken mechanic.

But I do hope they've all enjoyed their nice, long holiday.

This. Other than these two issues and the ridiculous Dovin requirement I think this event has been great.

SpaceDuck

I'm glad other people are bringing up nonevent/hate/troll decks. I think that I may have had 3 energize cards played against me in this entire event.

Seeing yet another Koth with an event rank of 1,400+ on the matchup screen is getting annoying. I'm not sure if they're trolls or if Koth players are just as dumb as dirt and don't understand that events have objectives, but this would be an amazing event if you were only matched up to appropriate AI decks.

morgue427

seen a few of the koths trying to run energy builds but just not that good honestly, kaladesh kind of screwed red there.

Steeme

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

forces you to constantly rebuild and change up your decks (which some people might see as a bad thing but IMHO it pushes creativity and ingenuity)

This event definitely pushes you to slowly replace Kaladesh cards with Olivia and friends.

THEMAGICkMAN

Steeme wrote:

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

forces you to constantly rebuild and change up your decks (which some people might see as a bad thing but IMHO it pushes creativity and ingenuity)

This event definitely pushes you to slowly replace Kaladesh cards with Olivia and friends.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, could you clarify?

Ohboy

Aoe/haste Chandra is the one to look out for.

It will happily kill all secondary objectives, even green's if you have no healing.

Mainloop25

Not the best event by a long shot, but not the worst by a long shot, either.

"Energy" as a game mechanic has a long way to go before it's really viable to build a deck around it, but when it works it's really cool. Sorry to hear about all the freezes, but I'm running a Galaxy S7 and other than fetch cards, it doesn't freeze or slow down for me much at all.

Steeme

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

Steeme wrote:

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

forces you to constantly rebuild and change up your decks (which some people might see as a bad thing but IMHO it pushes creativity and ingenuity)

This event definitely pushes you to slowly replace Kaladesh cards with Olivia and friends.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, could you clarify?

What I mean is, once you realize that building an energize deck has too many weaknesses, you end up replacing cards one at a time to fill in those weaknesses. In the end, you just end up building an Olivia deck, with maybe an energize card or two thrown in.

blacklotus

bken1234 wrote:

My two issues are:

1. Playing nonevent decks.

and

2. The energy related freezes.

They basically gave us an event with broken matchmaking and a broken mechanic.

But I do hope they've all enjoyed their nice, long holiday.

agree with both. especially point 1 for only Dovin Baan's node.
If d3 forces us to use only Dovin Baan for that node, we should only be facing Dovin Baan there. Not any other pw which is illegal.

blacklotus

Steeme wrote:

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

Steeme wrote:

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

forces you to constantly rebuild and change up your decks (which some people might see as a bad thing but IMHO it pushes creativity and ingenuity)

This event definitely pushes you to slowly replace Kaladesh cards with Olivia and friends.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, could you clarify?

What I mean is, once you realize that building an energize deck has too many weaknesses, you end up replacing cards one at a time to fill in those weaknesses. In the end, you just end up building an Olivia deck, with maybe an energize card or two thrown in.

this is so true. too bad i don't have Olivia.

THEMAGICkMAN

Steeme wrote:

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

Steeme wrote:

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

forces you to constantly rebuild and change up your decks (which some people might see as a bad thing but IMHO it pushes creativity and ingenuity)

This event definitely pushes you to slowly replace Kaladesh cards with Olivia and friends.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, could you clarify?

What I mean is, once you realize that building an energize deck has too many weaknesses, you end up replacing cards one at a time to fill in those weaknesses. In the end, you just end up building an Olivia deck, with maybe an energize card or two thrown in.

Still makes you test it out until you get to that point, and look in through your kaladesh collection to find decent energize cards is a good thing. I personally like the deck building and testing trial and error process, but I know that some don't. Sure maybe an Olivia deck might be your end result, but you still have to go through the process

Steeme

THEMAGICkMAN wrote:

Still makes you test it out until you get to that point, and look in through your kaladesh collection to find decent energize cards is a good thing. I personally like the deck building and testing trial and error process, but I know that some don't. Sure maybe an Olivia deck might be your end result, but you still have to go through the process

The event definitely had me searching -very- hard for a solution. My issue is that the Kaladesh set is quite underwhelming compared to past sets. Both fabricate and energize require board set up and the gems are quite easily removed by gem destruction or simple AI optimized matching. Since neither are consistent, you can't depend on them for emergencies like AI "lucky" cascades into Battle Pig, Olivia, Gaea's Revenge, Season's Past loop with Ulvenwald, etc. There is also no solution to decks stuffed with only removal.

Also, setting up energize with what? Empyreal Voyageur? Problem is, you pay 16 mana to drop a 3/4 creature, but the AI can just remove him with any of the direct removal spells that have filled up while waiting for you to drop your "threat". Then you're stuck, because you were relying on him to energize the board.

If they had a deckbuilding requirement (ie. you need 40% Kaladesh cards in your deck to compete) instead of the energize requirement, and kept all event decks fighting one another, then this would have been an infinitely more interesting event. Since that's not the case, and Kaladesh can't keep pace with prior sets, everyone's deck will eventually evolve back to prior sets, or risk facing losses to grief decks.

Magog

^This is exactly what's happened to me. I don't have that many Energise cards to begin with, so for my red node I've gone with a bog standard Nahiri Zoo deck, except one card has been swapped out for Decoction Module. If I can get it out before any of my creatures, sweet. If not, I consider the loss of the two points an acceptable tradeoff, given the risk of losing 4-5 more.

Feyda

I was sort of having fun til I got screwed by RNG on my dovin node -_-. Was in easy 1st or second place, lost 7 points due to not drawing any one of my 3 kill spells in a 9 round match while the ai just cascaded into one creature after another...