Is anyone going to build 3* thanos 0/5/5?

Vhailorx

It was an easy call to sit on my black cover until after Unstable Iso-8, but soon I will have to decide whether to apply any black covers at all.

Ultimately, I think I will probably champ Thanos, since the rewards are fairly compelling and I can't really ever imagine using him except when essential. But a 0/5/5 build is pretty tempting. Is anyone going to try it?

bigsmooth

I thought about it until I found out he gives covers as his champ rewards. I figure that is enough reason to champ him, even if I never use him.

Calnexin

I haven't seen the full power tier, but from 1-2 it looks like he at least hurts his allies less with each successive upgrade. Maybe at 5 black "Court Death" is trivial? If so, that would be your usual build, and then switch it back to 3/5/5 for defense.

firethorne

Calnexin wrote:

I haven't seen the full power tier, but from 1-2 it looks like he at least hurts his allies less with each successive upgrade. Maybe at 5 black "Court Death" is trivial? If so, that would be your usual build, and then switch it back to 3/5/5 for defense.

It looks like around 4K to foes and 3.7k to allies when champed @ 5. So, not super great.

I'll just champ him and never use him. He's a garbage character, but an underleveled 3* would be equally useless for my scaling. And his other skills aren't so impressive that I'd ever want to use him as 0/5/5 anyway. Vision's match damage booster is cheaper and better. And KK, Panther, and Deadpool all have aoe in the same neighborhood without countdown. Court Death or not, there's little use for him, so might as well get those champ rewards.

Vhailorx

firethorne wrote:

Calnexin wrote:

I haven't seen the full power tier, but from 1-2 it looks like he at least hurts his allies less with each successive upgrade. Maybe at 5 black "Court Death" is trivial? If so, that would be your usual build, and then switch it back to 3/5/5 for defense.

It looks like around 4K to foes and 3.7k to allies when champed @ 5. So, not super great.

I'll just champ him and never use him. He's a garbage character, but an underleveled 3* would be equally useless for my scaling. And his other skills aren't so impressive that I'd ever want to use him as 0/5/5 anyway. Vision's match damage booster is cheaper and better. And KK, Panther, and Deadpool all have aoe in the same neighborhood without countdown. Court Death or not, there's little use for him, so might as well get those champ rewards.

Ultimately I end up in the same place firethorne. Since he's not good enough to use 0/5/5, might as well champ him for the red hulk covers.

And calnexin, 3* thanos' black actually does more self damage than enemy damage at 3 or 4 black covers (well, the total enemy damage is higher, but each ally takes more damage than any individual enemy). So the cost of building him 3/5/5 is pretty significant.

mpqr7

With OML + a useless character, it's not so bad.

Champion all the way!!!!

They probably made your own team's damage worse at 3 covers to encourage people to bump it up to 4 or 5 covers.

Dartmaster01

I recruited two, a 3/5/5 to champ and a 0/1/0 to use. Hopefully he gets fixed but if not I don't ever have to take the self damage from him.

broll

firethorne wrote:

I'll just champ him and never use him. He's a garbage character, but an underleveled 3* would be equally useless for my scaling. And his other skills aren't so impressive that I'd ever want to use him as 0/5/5 anyway. Vision's match damage booster is cheaper and better. And KK, Panther, and Deadpool all have aoe in the same neighborhood without countdown. Court Death or not, there's little use for him, so might as well get those champ rewards.

This is more or less where I'm probably gonna be. I'll probably try him with some groups to see if I can get something workable, maybe with a team heal team like KK and Strange, or a self heal team like Daken and Wolverine, or using various stun/airborne mechanic to avoid. But more than likely I'll champ him for the rewards and hope he get's a significant rework at some later date.

Smudge

Vhailorx wrote:

And calnexin, 3* thanos' black actually more self damage than enemy damage at 3 or 4 black covers (well, the total enemy damage is higher, but each ally takes more damage than any individual enemy). So cost of building him 3/5/5 is pretty significant.

I plan to champ mine because, well, maybe they'll realize their mistakes and retool the character and because of rewards, but I wanted to point out that the total enemy damage is actually not higher at 3-4 covers. You're definitely dealing more to your own team unless it's a survival node.

You have to down an enemy character for Court Death to trigger. That means you're only ever doing damage to 2 enemy characters with it, ergo the team damage is higher at 3-4 covers (assuming your full team is still standing, too).

Punisher5784

I plan to champ him but when he becomes essential in an upcoming PVE, I'll simply use 1 rewarded cover as a dup for the next PVE. I rather have a 2V3 fight then trying to kill all 3 enemies at once to avoid the team damage.

As for PVP.. I don't know, I might completely skip it .. it's a lot of healthpack just on seed teams even for his loaner (I'll likely use the useless 1-2 cover 5*'s for the seeds though)!

spectator

Vhailorx wrote:

And calnexin, 3* thanos' black actually more self damage than enemy damage at 3 or 4 black covers (well, the total enemy damage is higher, but each ally takes more damage than any individual enemy). So cost of building him 3/5/5 is pretty significant.

In most cases, the total enemy damage is lower because you're only hitting two opponents after killing the third to trigger court death. The exception are in waves with more than three opponents

smkspy

I'll never use him anyays, so without champ levels, he'll would be pretty useless.

Vhailorx

Thanks to smudge and spectator for correcting me. Total enemy damage will be lower 2v2, though it could be higher if only 1 ally is still up.

Tiger_Wong

Oml + Elektra + thanos.
Or

Phoenix + Elektra + thanos

Jabrony_Geoff

My 3* Thanos is currently 0/4/1

Not interested in adding any black covers until they correct the obvious design mistake.
Why would anyone use him?

spectator

Hey everyone, boosted carnage in thanos pvp

Trilateralus

mpqr7 wrote:

With OML + a useless character, it's not so bad.

Champion all the way!!!!

They probably made your own team's damage worse at 3 covers to encourage people to bump it up to 4 or 5 covers.

This is what I don't understand about Thanos. I can't think of another character's power that discourages you from having less than 5 covers. The majority of powers are of course better at 5 covers and there are a few characters like OBW who have powers arguably better at lower covers, but I can't think of a single other power where you are actively punished for having less than 5 covers. Am I wrong?

fnedude

When you use him you have to hit each enemy so you can take them out with 1x AoE (JG, Kamala, Thor, etc), then his Black power doesn't trigger if you take out all of the enemy at once.

He's very usable, just different.

CNash

3700 damage to allies is ludicrous. That's just under half of the average unboosted 3*'s health pool, twice. Even if you solely bring high HP characters like Hulk or Colossus along with him, he'll have you eating through health packs.

And taking him into a wave node is pure suicide. Just think about Big Enchilada: that's 11 x 3700 damage, if you don't go out of your way to stop it from firing or negate its damage (which forces you to choose from a very limited selection of teammates - PunMax, Colossus, Invisible Woman). I'd rather just skip the hassle and never use him to begin with.

Orchedelia

I've had fun with him on the PvE low nodes, where one death pretty much leaves the rest of the enemy dead or dying...it's almost like 3 for the price of 1

...but can we agree the Death graphic is awesome...!

Yoik

Too late. I've champed him . Just because.

If I get a cover for him ill enjoy the champ benefits whatever they may be but other then essentials he is just a toon that I will not use.

If his death power worked differently or just hit less hard he maybe viable in events along side dr strange and oml maybe for speed but other then that. No.