How does one player have 1000 points more then second in QB

Urzashead
Urzashead Posts: 64 Match Maker
edited December 2016 in MtGPQ General Discussion
In quick battle ive Been watching this guy put on 800 points while I collect 400. I've lost 2 matches all day and normally win in 3 to 4 minutes. What gives?
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  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    That guy is probably winning in 90-120 seconds. It's very possible.
  • Urzashead
    Urzashead Posts: 64 Match Maker
    100 points since I posted this. Seems impossible.
  • span_argoman
    span_argoman Posts: 751 Critical Contributor
    Urzashead wrote:
    100 points since I posted this. Seems impossible.
    Basically the top Quick Battle decks can win a match in ~2 minutes while scoring 6 points per win (planeswalker level 60), which nets them 180 points an hour, or 90 points in that half an hour between your first post and your second.

    I'm guessing with emulators eliminating lag, some players could shave off a few more seconds to be scoring low 200+ points per hour or about 100 in that half hour period you witnessed.
  • Urzashead
    Urzashead Posts: 64 Match Maker
    Wow someone has issues. Thanks for the all the other non snarky answers .
  • buscemi
    buscemi Posts: 673 Critical Contributor
    Deploy the Gatewatch. Maybe Koth. Possible Nahiri.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 25
    Yes? Nahiri Zoo with deploy: maybe with mirrorpool.
  • He knows what he is doing. Takes time, planning and dedication. You cant be wishy washy is you want top spot in qb. If you see him in your bracket, settle for a rare.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Match Maker
    There's no need to be a **** to OP. He was asking a genuine question with good reasons based off valid observations.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    The time to beat if you're up against a speed demon is about 2 minutes a game.

    If you can't win with speed, you'll have to win with stamina.
  • Stormbringer0
    Stormbringer0 Posts: 190 Tile Toppler
    Is it just me or does this thread sum up the problem with QB and the possibility of getting "prices" in this game in general?
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Is it just me or does this thread sum up the problem with QB and the possibility of getting "prices" in this game in general?


    What's the problem you're referring to?

    Qb is absolutely winnable without a 2 min deck btw. Killwind plays a 3min+ deck and wins his fair share. I know because I've tangled with him a few times over the last few weekends.
  • Stormbringer0
    Stormbringer0 Posts: 190 Tile Toppler
    Ohboy wrote:
    Is it just me or does this thread sum up the problem with QB and the possibility of getting "prices" in this game in general?


    What's the problem you're referring to?

    Qb is absolutely winnable without a 2 min deck btw. Killwind plays a 3min+ deck and wins his fair share. I know because I've tangled with him a few times over the last few weekends.

    Don't get me wrong. I do like to grind the QB now and then (and for hours of work I only make it around place 150), but it feels more like work than fun. If you want to compede with others, you have to grind the QBs for getting prices, because booster don't do the job on the long term (and I'm a guy, who enjoys the thrill of a booster).

    As mentioned in some other threads, I would love a Hearthstone-like arena, where you fight against others and get a price on how many wins you get within one run. The possibility of building a deck from like ten boosters you get is optional.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ohboy wrote:
    Is it just me or does this thread sum up the problem with QB and the possibility of getting "prices" in this game in general?


    What's the problem you're referring to?

    Qb is absolutely winnable without a 2 min deck btw. Killwind plays a 3min+ deck and wins his fair share. I know because I've tangled with him a few times over the last few weekends.

    Don't get me wrong. I do like to grind the QB now and then (and for hours of work I only make it around place 150), but it feels more like work than fun. If you want to compede with others, you have to grind the QBs for getting prices, because booster don't do the job on the long term (and I'm a guy, who enjoys the thrill of a booster).

    As mentioned in some other threads, I would love a Hearthstone-like arena, where you fight against others and get a price on how many wins you get within one run. The possibility of building a deck from like ten boosters you get is optional.

    Drafting is absolutely something I hope to see in future!
  • Stormbringer0
    Stormbringer0 Posts: 190 Tile Toppler
    Ohboy wrote:
    Ohboy wrote:
    Is it just me or does this thread sum up the problem with QB and the possibility of getting "prices" in this game in general?


    What's the problem you're referring to?

    Qb is absolutely winnable without a 2 min deck btw. Killwind plays a 3min+ deck and wins his fair share. I know because I've tangled with him a few times over the last few weekends.

    Don't get me wrong. I do like to grind the QB now and then (and for hours of work I only make it around place 150), but it feels more like work than fun. If you want to compede with others, you have to grind the QBs for getting prices, because booster don't do the job on the long term (and I'm a guy, who enjoys the thrill of a booster).

    As mentioned in some other threads, I would love a Hearthstone-like arena, where you fight against others and get a price on how many wins you get within one run. The possibility of building a deck from like ten boosters you get is optional.

    Drafting is absolutely something I hope to see in future!

    Drafting or something like I mentioned above. The arena-mode in Hearthstone is nearly perfect on this and MTG PQ would make a great base for a mode like that. With that as an extra opportunity to get cards/rewards(of course with the cost of Runes/Crystals), people could get better decks easier and compede in the events. icon_e_smile.gif
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Actually arena costs 150% the price of a booster right? And guarantees only a booster. If I'm not wrong, it's a net drain on in game currency, so it will actually result in an average decrease in the number of cards you'll open in the long run.
  • Stormbringer0
    Stormbringer0 Posts: 190 Tile Toppler
    Ohboy wrote:
    Actually arena costs 150% the price of a booster right? And guarantees only a booster. If I'm not wrong, it's a net drain on in game currency, so it will actually result in an average decrease in the number of cards you'll open in the long run.

    But you still have the fun of building and playing a new deck every time. And the main point is: As long as it doesn't feel like you're getting less, it's okay. For me personally the playing aspect is higher than the rewarding aspect.
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don't disagree.

    I was into hearth Stone purely for the drafting aspect of it.
  • Stormbringer0
    Stormbringer0 Posts: 190 Tile Toppler
    Ohboy wrote:
    I don't disagree.

    I was into hearth Stone purely for the drafting aspect of it.

    Because that drafting aspect keeps your brain fresh and you have to play different every single time. Devs could build that mode so easily for this game. I really hope they read this.
  • _Daromax_
    _Daromax_ Posts: 22 Just Dropped In
    edited December 2016
    Yesterday I bought "Nahiri, the Harbinger" and I wanted to test her since I recently dropped "Deploy the Gatewatch" and "Archangel Avacyn". I used my runes to upgrade her to 57 level. After that I did some quick battles to test her. In the meantime I saw this topic and it gave me the idea of checking the fastest deck I could do. I played from ~10:00 AM yesterday to 8:00 PM today [34 hours in total (eating, sleeping, living included)] with different decks with different result but I set my goal to win in one or less minute. I don't know how many matches have I played and how many swear words used, but when I reach level 60 and maxed "Harbinger" I was a matter of few tries to do my goal.

    Finally I made it!!!

    Here is the proof: https://youtu.be/WyAHVQ-MJvs


    Currently the leaderboard looks like this:

    1. ohboymtg.......2724
    2. Grizzo.............2376
    3. Daromax.........768
    4. cedric.............762
    5. Matthew.........754


    Conclusions:

    1. It is possible to win in less than a minute but I did it only once and with some luck by mindlessly matching the first red or white match I saw and tapping the screen to speed up animation. Usually it takes about 3-5 minutes (more if the board is nasty or there are clues or servos) so if I'm not wrong in my calculation the top player had to win for nearly 15,1 hours (3min/round, time between matches not included) to achieve this.

    2. The game works way better on an emulator (I used "Nox") so players using them have some advantage. I played mostly on my Galaxy Note 3 with recording in the background which slowed me down a little plus I had to set up recording before playing every match.

    3. I had two days off so I could afford to spend some time on the game but I can't imagine someone with "normal" life doing it.

    4. My eyes bleed and my nerves are fried - this is not the definition of fun.

    5. THIS IS TERRIBLY TERRIBLY UNFAIR - before "Nahiri, the Harbinger" I have been using "Liliana, the Last Hope" and the combo of "Diregraf Colossus", "From Under the Floorboards", "Prized Amalgam" and "Behold and Beyond" which is a really great deck, but it takes 5-10 min to win with it. Now I know that I don't compete with other players but with time icon_cry.gif .

    P.S

    Don't read
    The problem is that asuming "ohboymtg" is "ohboy" from the board and he seems a nice person judging from the posts, otherwise I would say there is something fishy here like multi person playing or bot 8-) . Maybe he will tell us the secret.
    My deck:

    Battlefield Forge
    Deploy the Gatewatch
    Inner Struggle
    Vessel of Volatility
    Uncaged Fury
    Heron's Grace Champion
    Mirrorpool
    Goldnight Castigator
    Volcanic Rambler
    Abbot of Keral Keep
  • Volrak
    Volrak Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    Ohboy wrote:
    Actually arena costs 150% the price of a booster right? And guarantees only a booster.
    Yes, Hearthstone arena costs 150g to enter, but the average prize value is actually more than that; it's something like 172 gold (see https://us.battle.net/forums/en/hearths ... 8124306598 for some stats). The median prize is less than 150g though.

    I agree that drafting events in mtgpq could be awesome.