Knocking on 4* Land's Door

Punisher5784

Back in mid-November I made a post about completing my goal of completing champing all my 3*'s (https://d3go.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=54887&hilit=+feeling). I had been hoarding CP and LT's for quite sometime (1140 CP, 35 LT's). I recently pulled some 4* covers for max-covered characters (JG and Cyke) from 3* champ rewards so I figured I might as well start opening my stash. I've been dying to do it and I had 1.6M Iso saved too. Plus I was getting sick of missing DDQ Crashes and having a rough time with 4* Essential PVE nodes. I want out of 3* land so here are my token pulls:

Classic (57):

:elektra: 4/4/4 - wish all my pulls built my characters this way
3/0/2
1/1/3 - Wow! I had 0 GG, now I have 5. Sucks it's mostly Yellow though
2/2/1
5/3/5 - CHAMPED HIM!
2/0/1
2/1/1
0/0/2 - Maybe one day I will get Yellow :(
3/0/2
5/3/3
2/2/2
4/2/0
Already 3/5/5 (lvl 166).. Is he worth Champing? I don't think he is but I'm open to suggestions
1/2/1
2/2/1
0/1/0
2/2/5 - Finally I normally pull freaking Blue! Really 2/2/15
0/1/0
3/5/5 - This right here is the best pulls.. why? Because she should have been maxed 2-years ago but I kept pulled 1000 yellows! I'm Champing this ****!
2/4/1
1/2/1 - Too bad he's horrible
Already 5/3/5 - Time to finally Champ him! I had 2 Pending already!
5/1/1 - One extra Purple.. this annoys me.. alot
0/5/1 - I love the bump in damage on the 5th blue 4000 for lvl 70 is awesome.. but where are the other covers!!
1/0/3
1/0/1 - Did they give the special gift yet for anyone with "The Other Guy" yet? I have it now!
0/5/5 - Really? Where is the Green?!
Already 5/3/5 - Time to finally Champ her! I had 2 Pending already!
1/0/1
2/1/3
1/0/0
2/4/0
5/1/5 - Ugh I need blue!

Latest (35):

:peggycarter: 3/0/3 - Where is the Yellow?! Yes I want her best cover
1/2/1
1/1/3
1/1/1
0/2/1
3/1/4
2/1/1
2/1/0
- 2/2/16 NOOOOO! I already have a Blue pending.. what's the Iso trick for 2 same color 4* covers?
Now I am glad I champed him (Thank God for that Rebalance!)
0/1/1
2/2/1 - I had 0 before today
1/1/1
2/4/2
4/2/2
2/1/3
Now I am glad I champed him :)
3/1/1
2/2/3
5/3/0 - Where is the Red?
1/5/1 - Finally got Green but I will be annoyed if I pull another Blue.. which I will.. alot more times.. ugh
5/2/5 - YES! Just one more Blue! Will I get it? No I'll probably have to buy it :(
3/2/4 - Wow maybe I'll cover her soon
Now I am glad I champed her. Shocked this wasn't Yellow!
2/5/0 - Where is the Purple!!?
2/3/1
And the last one.... 0/1/1 - I better get a Punisher! lol

Overall I am happy but not happy as I guess I expected more after hoarding for so long but nonetheless it was fun. I champed 4 characters (JG, SL, Cyke, Thor) which cost me 1.27M Iso.. I did not take into account that promoting a 4* is 12,500 Iso.. wow! Good thing I saved all this Iso. I also did not think about the HP cost to roster characters I did not have (Spider-Gwen, Drax, 5* Strange, 5* Ironman, Phoenix, Green Goblin) which cost me 6000 HP! I have 5000 HP left (Thanks SHIELD Intercept!). I have 4 wasted covers (2 Fury, IMHB and Ant-Man), not bad but it's only going to get worse as I open more tokens. 4* characters I did not pull: XFW, RHulk, Venom, Professor X, Mr. Fantastic.. works for me as my Rhulk is already covered and I don't care for the others. 5* pull rate was 10/57 Classics (17%) and 6/35 Latest (17%) which I guess is normal. I haven't paid attention to 5*'s yet.

I guess I will hoard again.. the feeling of opening a Dup after grinding PVE stings too much. Feel free to share your pull victories, goals, stats and anything else below. Thanks for reading

Updated 2/10/17: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=56066&p=635243#p635243

like1tiger

Thanks for sharing it was an interesting read.
You made great choices on who u champed and u will really see a difference now so enjoy!

I have 15 fully covered 4 stars now and need about 6million iso haha

fnedude

I like Nick Fury, give him an AP generator like BB or Hood, that helps him fire off his Yellow. Otherwise go "defensive" with him w/ 5 Blue & 5 Purple/Pink.

bob554

fnedude wrote:

I like Nick Fury, give him an AP generator like BB or Hood, that helps him fire off his Yellow. Otherwise go "defensive" with him w/ 5 Blue & 5 Purple/Pink.

I'm a fan too! for his colour combo I usually prefer Antman, but I do like his powers, especially his blue in PVP. against the AI it can wreck or one-shot even the most powerful opponents

Edit: I'll also add the the AI usually plays him better than Antman, so he usually can get a spot on my defensive PVP

BigRussian

Here was a recent CP and token hoard opening I did a couple weeks ago. Was too lazy to do anything with it before this post - so you inspired me to share!

https://youtu.be/PyDxNV1mIH4 The first batch of 22 Latest Legendary Tokens
Followed by
https://youtu.be/J2DpxVoVrTc Spending approx 400+CP on classic tokens

I wasnt a fan of the string of Kingpins i got in the second vid.. I've been waiting for the last black cover of his... since forever. RNGesus hates my Kingpin. And two black punishers in a row, lol. Yup good luck I have!

Enjoy the vids!!

STOPTHIS

bob554 wrote:

fnedude wrote:

I like Nick Fury, give him an AP generator like BB or Hood, that helps him fire off his Yellow. Otherwise go "defensive" with him w/ 5 Blue & 5 Purple/Pink.

I'm a fan too! for his colour combo I usually prefer Antman, but I do like his powers, especially his blue in PVP. against the AI it can wreck or one-shot even the most powerful opponents

Edit: I'll also add the the AI usually plays him better than Antman, so he usually can get a spot on my defensive PVP

Put me in Pro Fury camp too. He's not top tier and his yellow is in need of a tweak, but he's solid. I wouldn't prioritize him over Jean Grey, but if there's no one else on deck I'd say champ him.

Magic

17% rate of 5* is amazing. In theory the rate is 15% but reality for many players is way below that. So in this regard you did fine. One thing I would do differently is I would pull the CP on Latest. With the said 17% rate you would have them better covered (imagine the 5 gg covers on your black bolt) and more action ready.

Punisher5784

Thanks everyone for the suggestion. I think I will champ him. I have 2 pending covers, 1 in PvE progression and my GSBW is going to reward one on next champ level. I have no one else to champ or use Iso for until my next hoard. I do like his blue so maybe I'll use him now.

ZootSax

STOPTHIS wrote:

bob554 wrote:

fnedude wrote:

I like Nick Fury, give him an AP generator like BB or Hood, that helps him fire off his Yellow. Otherwise go "defensive" with him w/ 5 Blue & 5 Purple/Pink.

I'm a fan too! for his colour combo I usually prefer Antman, but I do like his powers, especially his blue in PVP. against the AI it can wreck or one-shot even the most powerful opponents

Edit: I'll also add the the AI usually plays him better than Antman, so he usually can get a spot on my defensive PVP

Put me in Pro Fury camp too. He's not top tier and his yellow is in need of a tweak, but he's solid. I wouldn't prioritize him over Jean Grey, but if there's no one else on deck I'd say champ him.

Thanks, all. This is very timely advice for me, too. The Juggernaut: Heroic progression should get me my 13th Fury Cover (currently 3/5/4) while GSBW is at Lv182...

Vhailorx

Fury is a middle class 4*. If you have expiring covers for him and no one better to champ instead, then he's not a *bad* choice (after all, the goal is probably champing everyone, so even the weaker 4*s will need iso someday).

But he really isn't a great character. He isn't especially tough, all three of his powers are expensive (requiring 4 match3s), and he only has one outstanding power (the blue is awesome, especially when boosted). yellow is hard to use and a little underwhelming even at max effect (none of the "grab bag of powers" abilities are any good -- looking at you 5* cap! -- don't know why demi keeps developing them). And purple is a little pricey and slow for the effect.

bbigler

bob554 wrote:

fnedude wrote:

I like Nick Fury, give him an AP generator like BB or Hood, that helps him fire off his Yellow. Otherwise go "defensive" with him w/ 5 Blue & 5 Purple/Pink.

I'm a fan too! for his colour combo I usually prefer Antman, but I do like his powers, especially his blue in PVP. against the AI it can wreck or one-shot even the most powerful opponents

Edit: I'll also add the the AI usually plays him better than Antman, so he usually can get a spot on my defensive PVP

A boosted champed Fury can deal over 20K with his Demolition.

acescracked

Another benefit is you'll be able to climb a little higher in PvP now. If your 4*s are in the boosted list then higher still.

Jarvind

bbigler wrote:

bob554 wrote:

A boosted champed Fury can deal over 20K with his Demolition.

I hit a Demolition during Earth's Mightiest. It scraped boosted Peggy from full health.

bbigler

Jarvind wrote:

bbigler wrote:

bob554 wrote:

A boosted champed Fury can deal over 20K with his Demolition.

I hit a Demolition during Earth's Mightiest. It scraped boosted Peggy from full health.

If the demolition bug triggers, then it activates twice! 2 down for the price of 1, which is totally unfair no matter which side you're on.

adamdivine

So it is a bug... that's why my last clash was so easy!

broll

I'm in the same boat the OP was before he opened his hordes. Hoarding on the threshold of 4* land. I currently have all 41 3* champed and 0 4* (got a few at 10 covers though).

My horde currently:
HT - 121
LT - 20
CP - 683

I was planning on opening my horde (or at least some of it) around 300K ISO, but after reading the OP I realize that's probably woefully low. Gonna wait until at least a million now. Probably start opening HTs first and stop if/when I get to a point that I can champ 3 of the must have 4*s.

Thanks for the post OP, nice picture at my future and really helpful for my planning.

Punisher5784

broll wrote:

I'm in the same boat the OP was before he opened his hordes. Hoarding on the threshold of 4* land. I currently have all 41 3* champed and 0 4* (got a few at 10 covers though).

My horde currently:
HT - 121
LT - 20
CP - 683

I was planning on opening my horde (or at least some of it) around 300K ISO, but after reading the OP I realize that's probably woefully low. Gonna wait until at least a million now. Probably start opening HTs first and stop if/when I get to a point that I can champ 3 of the must have 4*s.

Thanks for the post OP, nice picture at my future and really helpful for my planning.

Glad it will help you. Opening my large hoard of Heroic tokens helped boost my Iso tremendously with all 2/3*s champed. Youll easily gain 1 or 2 Shield ranks and you can rotate your 2* farm at 65k iso each. Good luck. I look forward to your token open post

broll

Punisher5784 wrote:

Glad it will help you. Opening my large hoard of Heroic tokens helped boost my Iso tremendously with all 2/3*s champed. Youll easily gain 1 or 2 Shield ranks and you can rotate your 2* farm at 65k iso each. Good luck. I look forward to your token open post

YW.

I plan on posting, don't know if I'll make my own thread or do the no-pull (insert month) thread, but it will be somewhere.

Did you happen to record how many you opened and what your net ISO game was from HTs?

Vhailorx

broll wrote:

I'm in the same boat the OP was before he opened his hordes. Hoarding on the threshold of 4* land. I currently have all 41 3* champed and 0 4* (got a few at 10 covers though).

My horde currently:
HT - 121
LT - 20
CP - 683

I was planning on opening my horde (or at least some of it) around 300K ISO, but after reading the OP I realize that's probably woefully low. Gonna wait until at least a million now. Probably start opening HTs first and stop if/when I get to a point that I can champ 3 of the must have 4*s.

Thanks for the post OP, nice picture at my future and really helpful for my planning.

With that little iso, you can probably open your tokens until you pull a 14th cover for a 4* that you want to champ. But going much further than that will almost certainly leave you with a bunch of covers that you can't use for lack of iso.

Punter1

Vhailorx wrote:

broll wrote:

I'm in the same boat the OP was before he opened his hordes. Hoarding on the threshold of 4* land. I currently have all 41 3* champed and 0 4* (got a few at 10 covers though).

My horde currently:
HT - 121
LT - 20
CP - 683

I was planning on opening my horde (or at least some of it) around 300K ISO, but after reading the OP I realize that's probably woefully low. Gonna wait until at least a million now. Probably start opening HTs first and stop if/when I get to a point that I can champ 3 of the must have 4*s.

Thanks for the post OP, nice picture at my future and really helpful for my planning.

With that little iso, you can probably open your tokens until you pull a 14th cover for a 4* that you want to champ. But going much further than that will almost certainly leave you with a bunch of covers that you can't use for lack of iso.

I'd at least open your HT if not some of your LT and CP. That should help you rather than hinder you. I got all my 3* done a month or so ago and have been opening tokens and spending CP with abandon! Had 30+ LT and close to 1000CP when I did.

Of the now 162 different 4* and 5* covers I could pull, I had only a few that would be useless to me (ie already had 5 covers or character at 13 but not champed) so it wasn't too risky and it was much better to get some semi-usable 4* than look at a bank of tokens. My bigger worry was HP for roster initially for the handful of characters I didn't have. Now that I have all of them rostered that's gone.

Hendross

adamdivine wrote:

So it is a bug... that's why my last clash was so easy!

This is not a Fury bug, as discussed in other threads, working as intended.

e.g If you trip 2 trap tiles, you get N detonations followed by N-1