Day 73. The lull. Should I buy 3* covers with CP?

Orchedelia

I've had all my 2*s champed for about a week and so my ISO is just beginning to collect with no particular shopping list in mind (now at about 71,000). It's a nice lull after the intense ISO/champing activity I just went through.

My question is about spending CP.
I only have 133 today and know I should continue to hoard. I have 5 Legendaries in the vault.

I thought Blade was going to be my first useful 3* (2-3-1), but Kamala Khan is wooing me Big Time (1-2-1). That's only 4 covers, but seeing her boosted talents in the current PvE makes me want to buy a couple more covers. Her passive health, and her green-feeder works wonders with my 2*Human Torch and 2*Ares. I can almost replace 2*OBW in my primary trio.
And I'm just about to the point of getting PvP matches where I can compete.

What is the general opinion on this...buying a few 3* covers when I'm just beginning the transition or sit tight?

Thanks

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hodayathink

Sit tight. The covers will come, and you'll be glad you didn't spend it later.

halirin

Probably sit tight. Wait till you're one or two covers away from 13/13, because you don't know how the next batch of covers will fall. Also, I'd just enjoy using the champed 2*s and messing with those synergies for a while.

HaywireII

I hit a critical mass in my 3* transition and it's happening again during my 4* transition. One day I'm wondering when I'm every going to have a fully covered 3* and then I have one champ, then a second, then around when I hit my 3rd I started fully covering 3* characters faster than I could earn ISO. I managed to get up to 27 championed 3*'s and now I'm covering 4*'s faster than I can champion them.

I have eight 4*'s champed with another six fully covered. I'm also sitting on three legendary tokens and 174 cp now because I'm scared to waste covers; I need to build up enough iso to champ someone else before I open more legendaries.

Don't buy 3* covers.

SummerGlau

I've only spent CP on covers once and have 13 3 Star Champions after about 120 Days

jredd

short answer is no. and the long answer is hell no. 3 stars come easily. save your cp for pulling legendaries.

Punisher5784

Agreed with everyone above, just patiently wait. Especially if the cover isn't for the 13th one, you won't notice a huge difference going from 4 covers to 5.

The only time I bought a 3* cover was back when you could buy covers with HP. It was for Steve Rogers, he was 3/4/5 and I needed his 5th red so I can target any tile. Ultron Boss PVE was just released and I needed Rogers to remove bombs. Buying the cover helped me tremendously in this situation but overall I could have waited ad I pulled another red 2 weeks later.

The 3* covers will come! Enjoy and good luck!

fanghoul

The general consensus is don't spend your CP.

I'm at day 200 something, and I don't regret spending CP on both final covers to champion characters, or just boosting characters early on. I agree with Haywire that there does come a point where you start getting 3* covers at such a rate that you can't get enough Iso-8 to level them, but a good 3* will also make it easier to start collecting more rewards from events.

For me, I really benefited from having a champion Iron Fist, and ended up using him all the time for a awhile, regardless of whether he was boosted. Kamala Khan is also a really good character that I use all the time. I'd focus more on her purple and green powers than the yellow to start. Her yellow is really great, particularly on the defense in PvP and in certain combos, but her green does huge damage at 5 covers, and her purple is also really powerful once you get the hang of using it to change almost all of one color to green.


I'm not sure when I'd start using CP if I was hoarding it, honestly, because I still don't have enough roster slots, and sell over half of the 4*s and covers I pull. I feel better off for having usable 3*s than 1,000 Iso-8, and I feel better having usable 4*s over saving my CP to only pull when I'd have a roster slot to stick a new character in.

oBrokeno

I am just past day 83 I think. Saved to 600 cp. I just broke and used it all on strange vault got 4 covers for the 5* strange. Got sevral a 4* extra covers and tons of new 4*. I am working on fitting them all in now. Was so worth the wait. I have a lt saved also. My 5* did not hurt my scaling much and eats through the nodes fast. I got lucky with this kind of event. I saved like everyone said and it paid off huge for me.
On a side not I have spent almost nothing on the game. I am all about free to play. Having the bulk amount to use at one time got me so much I will be hoarding again till I get to 4* transition or another event like this. Pulling so many at once got me sevral characters with multiple covers. Which now when my 4* are boosted they are more useful. Just my experience being new and fallowing advice on saving. I should have waited longer till I was farther into my 3* transition but 10% at a 5* was to tempting.

Smudge

Personal approach:

Don't spend CP on an individual cover unless it's a top-tier character and you know the rewards won't give that cover for some time, AND unless the character is 5/5/2 or similar. Your characters are way too under-covered to consider spending CP right now. Hold off on it. You'll regret it later if you drop that much CP into what could instead be your 4* progression. The 3* covers will come. It's hard to be patient, but don't make your future roster regret hasty decisions now.

I spent CP on Iron Fist for that reason - his covers never came for me, he's absolutely game-changing, I had him at 2/5/5 with no cover in sight in rewards, and it just made sense. I also already had 20+ 3* champs and a 4* champ when I did so, and no 4* cover pulls would give me something I couldn't handle/roster.

In 3* land, the only characters you should consider spending CP on are most likely IM40, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, maybe Kamala, and possibly Cyclops. I wouldn't spend it on anyone else ever, and I still wouldn't ever consider it unless you're in the 5/5/x situation.

Edit: Another consideration after a closer look at your roster is that you don't want to accelerate your progress too much in one character. You will start to see noticeable scaling changes after you start entering 3* champ territory because scaling also checks how many covers your characters have. If you do a sudden CP and ISO dump into a single 3*, you will see the corresponding change in difficulty.

Keep on trucking and let the natural progression of gathering covers move you up. You'll start seeing the 3* progression accelerate more as you acquire more. It's a marathon, not a sprint!

snlf25

Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never spend CP on 3* covers. As you play PvE and DDQ and earn elite tokens it will feel like they are falling from the sky on you while you stand in the Great Iso Desert with no oasis in sight.

In Summary: Never Never Never Never Never Never.

halirin

snlf25 wrote:

Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never spend CP on 3* covers. As you play PvE and DDQ and earn elite tokens it will feel like they are falling from the sky on you while you stand in the Great Iso Desert with no oasis in sight.

In Summary: Never Never Never Never Never Never.

As others mentioned, definitely spend 20 cp on the thirteenth cover of a good 3* character. Especially if you don't already have 3* champs. Once you do, you will cover max the three stars surprisingly fast.

granne

I was where you are, not long ago. Be strong, be patient. Soon those covers will be everywhere and it'll be Iso you're looking for. I didn't believe people who told me that. The early days of the 2-3* transition were a halcyon time, where Iso flowed so freely I couldn't imagine its ever running dry.

I have used CP a couple of times for a thirteenth cover, when I've had an unusable cover in my queue, then I've champed and essentially got a LL LT at a 5CP discount. Otherwise, just say no.

snlf25

halirin wrote:

snlf25 wrote:

Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never Never spend CP on 3* covers. As you play PvE and DDQ and earn elite tokens it will feel like they are falling from the sky on you while you stand in the Great Iso Desert with no oasis in sight.

In Summary: Never Never Never Never Never Never.

As others mentioned, definitely spend 20 cp on the thirteenth cover of a good 3* character. Especially if you don't already have 3* champs. Once you do, you will cover max the three stars surprisingly fast.

I could not disagree more. Like you said, 3* covers come fast. 20CP is a 15% chance at a 5* or a guaranteed 4* which do not come fast and there will be a time when he needs all the chances he will get. Absolute bottom of the barrel worst imaginable case scenario you'd have to wait 123 days for it to come around in the DDQ. Do you get a guaranteed Old Man Logan or a Guaranteed Peggy Carter every 123 days? No. My unequivocal never never never stands.

Mr_Sinister

Obw should always be in your trio. She's the best 2* and one of the best support characters in the game. I use her every chance I get and most certainly to neutralize scarlet witch centered teams.

fanghoul

snlf25 wrote:

I could not disagree more. Like you said, 3* covers come fast. 20CP is a 15% chance at a 5* or a guaranteed 4* which do not come fast and there will be a time when he needs all the chances he will get. Absolute bottom of the barrel worst imaginable case scenario you'd have to wait 123 days for it to come around in the DDQ. Do you get a guaranteed Old Man Logan or a Guaranteed Peggy Carter every 123 days? No. My unequivocal never never never stands.

This will never make sense to me. 3 months from now, I have no idea if I will still be playing this game. And somehow having a 3* character that's useable for 3 months is worth less than pulling a single 4* cover that will be completely unusable for kitten knows how long.

-Yep. So glad that I have this Miles Morales with 2 covers in my roster. He sure gets used a lot.

I only use CP for pulls now, but I don't regret beefing up my 3* roster early on.

snlf25

And if you'd kept more CP for pulls perhaps your Miles would have 6 covers now instead of 2, or maybe you'd have a champion Rhulk or a champion Iceman or an OML with 5 or 6 covers. No 3* character is worth that even if it's the 13th cover because it will come sooner or later and probably sooner now that we have Elite Tokens.

TeamStewie

Covers come cheap. At least 1 DDQ token per day. Play every PVP even if you play only once and finish dead last you'll get a token. Lightning rounds beat up on the 1st few patsies and get a standard token, you might get lucky. No reason to spend CP unless absolutely necessary.

fanghoul

snlf25 wrote:

And if you'd kept more CP for pulls perhaps your Miles would have 6 covers now instead of 2, or maybe you'd have a champion Rhulk or a champion Iceman or an OML with 5 or 6 covers. No 3* character is worth that even if it's the 13th cover because it will come sooner or later and probably sooner now that we have Elite Tokens.

I don't have the exact number of 3* covers I bought with CP, but I'm pretty sure it's in the realm of 20 or less, which makes the chances of getting a championed Rulk, or even a 6 cover Miles pretty close to zero. Even at 6 covers, he'd be pretty close to useless compared to a championed 3*. I have Peggy at 10 covers, and she's the only 4* that's ever getting regular use.

With ~40 4* characters to get from a draw, unless you have a ton of slots, almost all of those draws are going to evaporate into 1,000 Iso-8, which is far less valuable than a 3* cover.


Edit: This is also completely ignoring the point that getting some quality 3*s helped me start making progression in PvE more quickly, thus aiding me in getting more CP.

Astralgazer

I have spent CP to buy 3* covers, and I have never regretted doing it. I did it conservatively though. For example, when I had 12 covers for a character, the upcoming DDQ was giving a cover for that character that would be wasted. I would then buy the 13th cover with CP, gather ISO and champion them with the extra cover from DDQ.

But there was an exception: Scarlet Witch. Her cover wasn't coming my way; in fact I only got her rostered after 200ish days playing. I spent 60 CP to buy 3 covers. And I never regret that decision.

Never buy covers with CP, that's the bottom line. Better to play a long game and use what we've got than pushing the roster too far too soon. But there will be circumstances of risk and reward that you're willing to spend CP for.

Remember that it's your game. You do it for fun. Let the fun factor decide for you.

snlf25

fanghoul wrote:

snlf25 wrote:

And if you'd kept more CP for pulls perhaps your Miles would have 6 covers now instead of 2, or maybe you'd have a champion Rhulk or a champion Iceman or an OML with 5 or 6 covers. No 3* character is worth that even if it's the 13th cover because it will come sooner or later and probably sooner now that we have Elite Tokens.

I don't have the exact number of 3* covers I bought with CP, but I'm pretty sure it's in the realm of 20 or less, which makes the chances of getting a championed Rulk, or even a 6 cover Miles pretty close to zero. Even at 6 covers, he'd be pretty close to useless compared to a championed 3*. I have Peggy at 10 covers, and she's the only 4* that's ever getting regular use.

With ~40 4* characters to get from a draw, unless you have a ton of slots, almost all of those draws are going to evaporate into 1,000 Iso-8, which is far less valuable than a 3* cover.


Edit: This is also completely ignoring the point that getting some quality 3*s helped me start making progression in PvE more quickly, thus aiding me in getting more CP.

A six cover Miles can defeat his 4* DDQ and earn you extra Legendary Tokens as long as one of those covers is purple, plus he would help you greatly in any PvE he is an essential for. Buying 3* covers for CP looks like you are accelerating your progress but imagine if you hoarded that until you could afford a couple roster slots a few months down the road and you got to open 40 or 50 Classics at once. You are sprinting the first mile of a marathon doing that. And if you hoard you'll still get the 3* cover anyway.