Vhailorx wrote: The basic idea of cl8 is at least partially misconceived. It hasnt increased rewards at the top, it has just pushed rewards further down the ladder. That's not bad, especially for covers, so yay. This will help people buold their 3* rosters.
Tromb2ch2 wrote: Vhailorx wrote: The basic idea of cl8 is at least partially misconceived. It hasnt increased rewards at the top, it has just pushed rewards further down the ladder. That's not bad, especially for covers, so yay. This will help people buold their 3* rosters. So what you are saying is that sl 52 people are supposed to be building our 3* up? Most people I know at around 52 already have half the 3* champed (at least) and the other half are already at 13 covers but need ISO to champion them. The added 3* down the bracket doesn't really help people that should be at 4* transition.
hodayathink wrote: Which should mean those 3* covers are champ levels to their (probably recently) championed 3* characters, getting them access to the 4* champ rewards quicker. Shield Rank 52 players, at best, are at the beginnings of the 4* transition, at which point the ISO being earned seems about right for them (enough to max a 3 star fairly easily if you pull a 14th cover, and while not enough to max a 4 star in the same situation without heavy grinding, enough to put enough levels into one for it to be useful).
Pylgrim wrote: It's really bizarre. The thick of improvements of SCL8 over SCL7 occur for placement between top 100 and top 300, where the 3* rewards were extended greatly. But... we are talking of Rank 52 players here. You don't get to be Rank 52 being top 300 in PVEs. Basically we're talking here of dedicated players who as a reward for 20 full ranks of growth are given the chance of... slacking off and taking it easy for the same 3* rewards? Because duking it out with all the players Rank 80 and above (i.e. 5* level) for a place at the top 10 seems like a losing proposition.
aesthetocyst wrote: Hmmm. How much iso would be enough in the OP's estimation? Now, I may still be carrying psychic scars from the days of saving up 70iso drops in weeks-long efforts to max lowly 2*s way back in the day, and those memories might be making today's bounties seem more generous than they are, BUT ... I'm not playing much this week (never play Heroics much, work has precluded almost all LRs, and hampered any pvp farming ... boo), but am still pulling in over 30K iso a day. That's good enough to max a 2* in just over 2 days from scratch, and a 3* in 4. 4*s and 5* in 12 and 18 days respectively. Not lightning fast, but not bad. OK, I have a pretty developed roster and get a lot of champ rewards, true. But I also have a noob account on which I play one (1) match a day, the 500iso DDQ node. Sometimes, maybe once a week, I'll play 1-3 nodes in another event on it. With that low level of activity, along with alliance rewards and daily stuff, it's pulling i 5K iso/day, and actively champing its 2*s. So, how much is enough? You want more ... have you tried playing more?
mpqr7 wrote: I did the math, and I think you gain around 5000 additional iso per event when you increase from scl 7 to scl 8, so that's not bad. Maybe even more if you account for sub rewards for individual and alliance. It could be as much as an extra 10,000 iso every 3, 4 or 7 days. Every bit counts! And there are SLs as well, for an additional 30,000+ iso every few weeks! I'm hopeful that this will shave my 4* champing period down from once every 3 weeks to around once every 2.5 weeks. We'll see.
JackTenrec wrote: On the complete opposite side of the spectrum from the OP, as a 3* to 4* transitioner who started at SCL7 and qualifies for SCL8, the issue is still 4* covers. The extra 4* cover in progression is nice, but I hardly see that as a boost to the transition when new characters are being introduced at the rate they've been coming in (I have more covers on my unleveled Phoenix than I do on half of my rostered 4*). This might change when I finally start to champion 4*, but right now, every character I have that isn't a 5* is leveled as high as possible and I'm still hovering around 700K banked ISO. My guess is that SCL7-8 really need to provide additional opportunities for earning 4* covers (still T10? really?) and that ISO bonuses need to get bumped up for gaining ranks to help the whaley whales who already have everything covered but not championed.
Vhailorx wrote: mpqr7 wrote: I did the math, and I think you gain around 5000 additional iso per event when you increase from scl 7 to scl 8, so that's not bad. Maybe even more if you account for sub rewards for individual and alliance. It could be as much as an extra 10,000 iso every 3, 4 or 7 days. Every bit counts! And there are SLs as well, for an additional 30,000+ iso every few weeks! I'm hopeful that this will shave my 4* champing period down from once every 3 weeks to around once every 2.5 weeks. We'll see. Would you kindly point me to said math?
mpqr7 wrote: Vhailorx wrote: mpqr7 wrote: I did the math, and I think you gain around 5000 additional iso per event when you increase from scl 7 to scl 8, so that's not bad. Maybe even more if you account for sub rewards for individual and alliance. It could be as much as an extra 10,000 iso every 3, 4 or 7 days. Every bit counts! And there are SLs as well, for an additional 30,000+ iso every few weeks! I'm hopeful that this will shave my 4* champing period down from once every 3 weeks to around once every 2.5 weeks. We'll see. Would you kindly point me to said math? It's hard to do it until right before an event, when I can shift back and forth between lv 7 and lv 8. Unless someone has them posted somewhere? Basically I added up the differences in ISO between progression rewards, placement rewards, alliance rewards for the event plus all subs. It all adds up. I had it all in front of me at one time. Maybe I can do it again Thursday next week, before the Dr. Strange event (if that one has SCL).