PSA: 30% bonus sale through 10/7.

thisone

Tony Foot wrote:

thisone wrote:

I'm sure I asked a question and got a response that play store/itunes etc won't let them deviate from the set price. Can a dev clarify? It's this kind of info that helps smooth community relations. Thanks.

Other games do it fine, PVZ2 and Family Guy which I used to play had actual money off sales.

Heh I am not surprised at wrong info being given out after my response from CS yesterday if I'm honest

I stand corrected.

Fightmastermpq

aesthetocyst wrote:

sambrookjm wrote:

sinnerjfl wrote:

Just to be clear, the anniversary happens in early October. The change of buying covers from HP to CP went in effect mid-January.

Oops. I had that fiasco tied to the wrong sale. My apologies.

And THEN the devs had the good graces to extend HP cover buys an extra week, which allowed everyone who had supposedly loaded up on the sale to buy covers ... and yet had not yet done so for some reason ... to go ahead and do so.

That was me. Had money from Christmas, so I spent a bunch to get some bonus HP that I figured I would use to max various 4*s over the next 6 months as I earned the ISO I would need. The announcement gave me 1 week to try and guess what covers RNGesus would bless me with, and which characters I would want to have champed. It was a really **** thing to do.

TLCstormz

Speaking for myself, the thing that * I * remember people feeling betrayed about was the fact that they did this exact same sale......and then the Anniversary was a COMPLETE slap in the face, from every direction possible.

That's what I was speaking of, because so many people were like "wow, I just gave you guys $100 in thanks and hopes that you'd give us an awesome anniversary and you've purposely made Galactus kill us in 3 matches, Anniversary Tokens that have even worse odds thsn normal Heroics, nodes that glitch and lock us out too soon, nodes that jump hundreds of levels unexpectedly, the servers crashing again, and then the almighty truth finally being told in "you're supposed to lose".

Mess.

Nightglider1

The tokens are what completely ruined the Anniversary for me. The idea that we were earning "special tokens" that were worse than the usual Heroics was offensive at best.

puppychow

sambrookjm wrote:

Wjohnson992 wrote:

Does anyone care to elaborate on what happened last year? This is some peoples first anniversary.

The usual sale on Hero points and ISO. After the sale, there was either a completely unannounced or a known-only-to-a-select-few change in the game that made 3-star and 4-star covers purchasable only with Command Points, rather than Hero Points. The folks who bought Hero points to store up to purchase that last cover they needed for one of their characters (pre-championing days) got screwed.

IRRC, it was announced in the forum that powers will no longer be purchasable w/ HP. But the problem was that the general player base don't really hang out here at these forums. So most players weren't aware of the hp-phaseout to buy covers until D3 bothered to post an in-game announcement, which occurred LONG after the hp/iso sale had ended. So yes, people who loaded up on hp (like 50,000 worth) were totally screwed since they're not going to spend that much hp on slots and shields.

puppychow

carrion pigeons wrote:

Well *someone* in my alliance thought the sale was a good deal. I just got 40 CP out of nowhere for alliance purchases.

I feel torn between feeling happy I got free stuff and wanting to kick them for wasting so much money on a terrible deal.

Unless you're that person's spouse or someone with access to the buyer's finances, you can't really make a judgment like that b/c for all you know the buyer could be making $1mil a year and, therefore, a $600 purchase in hp/iso is just loose change. If I'm ever fortunate enough to receive cp rebates like this, I'll just be thankful and leave it at that.

Linkster79

sinnerjfl wrote:

A sale should cost you less money, not just this garbage bonus they keep trying.

Agreed. This is a special promotion and not a sale, I do wish some folks would learn to differentiate between the two.

carrion_pigeons

puppychow wrote:

carrion pigeons wrote:

Well *someone* in my alliance thought the sale was a good deal. I just got 40 CP out of nowhere for alliance purchases.

I feel torn between feeling happy I got free stuff and wanting to kick them for wasting so much money on a terrible deal.

Unless you're that person's spouse or someone with access to the buyer's finances, you can't really make a judgment like that b/c for all you know the buyer could be making $1mil a year and, therefore, a $600 purchase in hp/iso is just loose change. If I'm ever fortunate enough to receive cp rebates like this, I'll just be thankful and leave it at that.

Yet somehow this sort of response evokes the exact opposite in me. Bad spending habits don't suddenly become better if you're wealthy, and in any case I know at least that they don't take the game seriously enough to be in a competitive alliance, so they aren't buying in order to optimize anything.

I don't really see any interpretation of what happened, given the context, besides "dude gets suckered into spending real money on a bunch of random covers".

Fightmastermpq

carrion pigeons wrote:

puppychow wrote:

carrion pigeons wrote:

Well *someone* in my alliance thought the sale was a good deal. I just got 40 CP out of nowhere for alliance purchases.

I feel torn between feeling happy I got free stuff and wanting to kick them for wasting so much money on a terrible deal.

Unless you're that person's spouse or someone with access to the buyer's finances, you can't really make a judgment like that b/c for all you know the buyer could be making $1mil a year and, therefore, a $600 purchase in hp/iso is just loose change. If I'm ever fortunate enough to receive cp rebates like this, I'll just be thankful and leave it at that.

Yet somehow this sort of response evokes the exact opposite in me. Bad spending habits don't suddenly become better if you're wealthy, and in any case I know at least that they don't take the game seriously enough to be in a competitive alliance, so they aren't buying in order to optimize anything.

I don't really see any interpretation of what happened, given the context, besides "dude gets suckered into spending real money on a bunch of random covers".

Bad spending habits DO become better when you are wealthy. Have you never spent a dime on this game? Any game? Any form of entertainment? That's all this is - a form of entertainment. If this form of entertainment is worth spending an hour's worth of your income on, for someone who is wealthy that could be 40 CP for you.

carrion_pigeons

Fightmastermpq wrote:

Bad spending habits DO become better when you are wealthy. Have you never spent a dime on this game? Any game? Any form of entertainment? That's all this is - a form of entertainment. If this form of entertainment is worth spending an hour's worth of your income on, for someone who is wealthy that could be 40 CP for you.

Okay, but not all forms of entertainment are created equal. I could think emptying my wallet into the gutter once in a while was entertaining, but that doesn't make it a good use of money, for me or anyone.

The change in the gaming experience between a person who spends and a person who doesn't is...actually pretty similar to dumping your money into a gutter, in my experience.

Dragon_Nexus

sinnerjfl wrote:

A sale should cost you less money, not just this garbage bonus they keep trying.

I'm finding it difficult to see the difference.
Normally you get, for a singular example, 2900 HP for £14.99 in my country. That's about 193HP per penny
Currently you get 3770 HP for the same price. That's 251HP per penny.

So what you're saying is you'd rather have 2900 HP for £11.55 than 3770HP for the same price you would have paid anyway? Either way you're getting more.
At the old rate, 3770 HP would have cost about £19.53. So think of it as saving £3.54 on that amount of HP.

It's all about perception, I guess.

DFiPL

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

sinnerjfl wrote:

A sale should cost you less money, not just this garbage bonus they keep trying.

I'm finding it difficult to see the difference.
Normally you get, for a singular example, 2900 HP for £14.99 in my country. That's about 193HP per penny
Currently you get 3770 HP for the same price. That's 251HP per penny.

Per pound. If you were getting 251 HP per pence/penny spent there, it'd be, like...carry the one...376k HP, give or take.

spatenfloot

DFiPL wrote:

Per pound.

How much does an HP weigh? What if he uses the metric system in his country? He might be getting a better deal buying it by the kilogram.

DFiPL

spatenfloot wrote:

DFiPL wrote:

Per pound.

How much does an HP weigh? What if he uses the metric system in his country? He might be getting a better deal buying it by the kilogram.

£ = pound sterling. British money. 100 pence to the £, similar to pennies to the $.

I mean, the UK *does* use metric, but that's neither here nor there.

Escape2victory

puppychow wrote:

carrion pigeons wrote:

Well *someone* in my alliance thought the sale was a good deal. I just got 40 CP out of nowhere for alliance purchases.

I feel torn between feeling happy I got free stuff and wanting to kick them for wasting so much money on a terrible deal.

Unless you're that person's spouse or someone with access to the buyer's finances, you can't really make a judgment like that b/c for all you know the buyer could be making $1mil a year and, therefore, a $600 purchase in hp/iso is just loose change. If I'm ever fortunate enough to receive cp rebates like this, I'll just be thankful and leave it at that.

The buyer may believe it's a good spend. Most would think it's a waste of money. Personally, the MPQ financial model horrifies me. I'd rather see frequent small spends by a wide populous than spikes of frenzied whale purchases which must be propping up the business.

Wjohnson992

So my first anniversary consists of a bugged unplayable game. I should have heeded the warnings.

sinnerjfl

Dragon_Nexus wrote:

I'm finding it difficult to see the difference.
Normally you get, for a singular example, 2900 HP for £14.99 in my country. That's about 193HP per penny
Currently you get 3770 HP for the same price. That's 251HP per penny.

So what you're saying is you'd rather have 2900 HP for £11.55 than 3770HP for the same price you would have paid anyway? Either way you're getting more.
At the old rate, 3770 HP would have cost about £19.53. So think of it as saving £3.54 on that amount of HP.

It's all about perception, I guess.

A traditionnal sale, you spend less money but you get the same product as usual. Hell if you want more its up to you the customer to buy more and profit from the sale.

With these types of promotion, you don't save any money at all and they decide for you "Heck the player probably wants more". Maybe I dont, maybe I do, let the customer decide. This is just forcing people to still pay the same price while masquarading as a sale and how it's such a good deal while they lose no money at all.

broll

carrion pigeons wrote:

Fightmastermpq wrote:

Bad spending habits DO become better when you are wealthy. Have you never spent a dime on this game? Any game? Any form of entertainment? That's all this is - a form of entertainment. If this form of entertainment is worth spending an hour's worth of your income on, for someone who is wealthy that could be 40 CP for you.

Okay, but not all forms of entertainment are created equal. I could think emptying my wallet into the gutter once in a while was entertaining, but that doesn't make it a good use of money, for me or anyone.

The change in the gaming experience between a person who spends and a person who doesn't is...actually pretty similar to dumping your money into a gutter, in my experience.

That's the buyer's choice to make on weather it's entertaining not you. Some people spend tons of money weekly at casinos, to me that's money down the gutter, but they enjoy it more than buy a gaming system and paying for new games all the time. It's about doing what you enjoy.

Back before I was married and full control over how and what I spent, I contributed to f2p games on a regular basis using the money that I regularly would have used buying a new Playstation game every month. The end result was the same, I was entertained and I spent more or less the same amount. Were all of those choices great or wise, no, but I've bought plenty of games there were terrible and wish I hadn't done it. It's all the same.

TLCstormz

Nightglider1 wrote:

The tokens are what completely ruined the Anniversary for me. The idea that we were earning "special tokens" that were worse than the usual Heroics was offensive at best.

This. Exactly. lol