"New" Planeswalker Incoming!

HomeRn
HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
edited September 2016 in MtGPQ General Discussion
Well, since I got up a little early today for another go for the Sahelli event - I happened to notice a certain notification of a new planeswalker being available as of right now. Turns out, Jace is getting a facelift! Focusing HEAVILY on the new Investigation mechanic, I don't think we've seen Jace being... so fast... Also, I've taken one for the team and already leveled him up to 60 for your information needs! No screenies unfortunately, having issues with finding a suitable location to upload to.

manablue.png Jace, Unraveler of Secrets

Maximum HP: 104

Color Bonuses: +0 manawhite.png / +0 managreen.png / +0 manared.png / +4 manablack.png / +5 manablue.png

Deck Limits:

7 Creatures / 5 Supports / 5 Spells

Abilities @ Level 60:

(9) Investigation: Gain 4 mana for each support on the board - Clues DO COUNT for mana generation!

(12) Study: Discard 1, then Investigate 4 (creates FOUR clues)

(21) Unravel: Create a Support with 6 shields and "When you draw a card, each of your creatures gain +4/+4" icon_eek.gif (and we thought Koth's was vicious!)



So yeah... the blue equivalent to Koth?
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  • Oaklanbash
    Oaklanbash Posts: 46 Just Dropped In
    Tamiyo's Journal has a new home.....
  • sageofhalo451
    sageofhalo451 Posts: 44 Just Dropped In
    Forgotten Creation, Day's Undoing..... +24/24 and +20/20 respectively to all creatures... woah
  • Reaganstorme
    Reaganstorme Posts: 334 Mover and Shaker
    Where is this new Planeswalker notification you speak of? Not in my Vault or Activity hub either.
  • glggwp
    glggwp Posts: 202 Tile Toppler
    damn i still don't have day's undoing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    Reaganstorme wrote:
    Where is this new Planeswalker notification you speak of? Not in my Vault or Activity hub either.
    Might need to restart your app? Showed up for me at 10:00 EDT.

    Also, got some more information regarding his abilities - the Unravel support comes with 6 shields when it is created... which means it's NOT likely going to be removed UNLESS there's a Great Aurora in somebody's hand.
  • Coconut99
    Coconut99 Posts: 212
    I was just thinking, "Hm, I wish I had Tamiyo's Journal now. Not sure I can really run up my draw numbers reliably, much less discarding and making room for them, even with Alhammaret's Archive."

    Then I remembered I had Day's Undoing. Hmm, maybe Jace 2.0 is worth a purchase...
  • Pqmtg-
    Pqmtg- Posts: 282
    HomeRn wrote:
    Reaganstorme wrote:
    Where is this new Planeswalker notification you speak of? Not in my Vault or Activity hub either.
    Might need to restart your app? Showed up for me at 10:00 EDT.

    Also, got some more information regarding his abilities - the Unravel support comes with 6 shields when it is created... which means it's NOT likely going to be removed UNLESS there's a Great Aurora in somebody's hand.


    Why would your mind go straight to great Aurora and not the more commonly used demolish?
  • Reaganstorme
    Reaganstorme Posts: 334 Mover and Shaker
    Yeah, restarted and the notification was there. Looks interesting. No cash this week though, so I'll guess I'll wait.
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    HomeRn wrote:
    Reaganstorme wrote:
    Where is this new Planeswalker notification you speak of? Not in my Vault or Activity hub either.
    Might need to restart your app? Showed up for me at 10:00 EDT.

    Also, got some more information regarding his abilities - the Unravel support comes with 6 shields when it is created... which means it's NOT likely going to be removed UNLESS there's a Great Aurora in somebody's hand.


    Why would your mind go straight to great Aurora and not the more commonly used demolish?
    Demolish would more likely go for the clues instead of the actual supports (clues count as supports!). This is especially true when there's multiple clues on the board - like when Jace uses his second ability and adds 4 clues to the board!
  • Pqmtg-
    Pqmtg- Posts: 282
    HomeRn wrote:
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    HomeRn wrote:
    Reaganstorme wrote:
    Where is this new Planeswalker notification you speak of? Not in my Vault or Activity hub either.
    Might need to restart your app? Showed up for me at 10:00 EDT.

    Also, got some more information regarding his abilities - the Unravel support comes with 6 shields when it is created... which means it's NOT likely going to be removed UNLESS there's a Great Aurora in somebody's hand.


    Why would your mind go straight to great Aurora and not the more commonly used demolish?
    Demolish would more likely go for the clues instead of the actual supports (clues count as supports!). This is especially true when there's multiple clues on the board - like when Jace uses his second ability and adds 4 clues to the board!

    Ah!
  • Stormcrow
    Stormcrow Posts: 462 Mover and Shaker
    edited September 2016
    HomeRn wrote:
    Color Bonuses: +0 manawhite.png / +0 managreen.png / +0 manared.png / +4 manablack.png / +5 manablue.png

    Lol. Let's see: Gen 1 PWs all had +5 total mana bonuses. Kiora's at +6, Ob Nix is at +5. We gradually crept to +8 total mana bonuses, originally for PWs that were pretty lackluster otherwise (Garruk) and then as the standard for new PWs (Nahiri, Sorin). Now we're up to +9 total.

    That's power creep, plain and simple.
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    Stormcrow wrote:
    HomeRn wrote:
    Color Bonuses: +0 manawhite.png / +0 managreen.png / +0 manared.png / +4 manablack.png / +5 manablue.png

    Lol. Let's see: Gen 1 PWs all had +5 total mana bonuses. Kiora's at +6, Ob Nix is at +6. We gradually crept to +8 total mana bonuses, originally for PWs that were pretty lackluster otherwise (Garruk) and then as the standard for new PWs (Nahiri, Sorin). Now we're up to +9 total.

    That's power creep, plain and simple.
    Agreed. Think it's time to revisit the original 5 walkers and brought them up to speed in terms of mana gains and maybe HP.
  • Chavez303
    Chavez303 Posts: 42 Just Dropped In
    Lets be honest...do you think the AI is going to save enough loyalty to play that second or third ability (unless they get a huge cascade)?
  • Theros
    Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
    HomeRn wrote:
    Stormcrow wrote:
    HomeRn wrote:
    Color Bonuses: +0 manawhite.png / +0 managreen.png / +0 manared.png / +4 manablack.png / +5 manablue.png

    Lol. Let's see: Gen 1 PWs all had +5 total mana bonuses. Kiora's at +6, Ob Nix is at +6. We gradually crept to +8 total mana bonuses, originally for PWs that were pretty lackluster otherwise (Garruk) and then as the standard for new PWs (Nahiri, Sorin). Now we're up to +9 total.

    That's power creep, plain and simple.
    Agreed. Think it's time to revisit the original 5 walkers and brought them up to speed in terms of mana gains and maybe HP.

    This is what I think. +1 or +2 on other color can help.
  • Theros
    Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
    IS the new jace dual color lack/blue or just blue?
  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    MADAFAKA wrote:
    IS the new jace dual color lack/blue or just blue?

    He's mono blue with strong mana gain in black.
  • ZW2007-
    ZW2007- Posts: 812 Critical Contributor
    I feel like they need to either buff the original 5 or greatly reduce the manacrystal.png cost of some of the older purchasable ones. There is a massive barrier for new players to have success between small starting card collections and then also being handicapped by the now significantly weaker starting planeswalker choices. I can see this causing frustration in new players and causing them to quit the game prematurely which can be detrimental to the longterm growth of the game. Besides mana gains, some of the original five are majorly outclassed by new planeswalkers.

    Example: Gideon 1's second ability compared to Nahiri's first ability. Both give all your creatures +4/+4 but Nahiri's ability costs 6 less loyalty. It may not seem like much but when you factor in the color overlap between the two and the difference in mana gains, it makes Gideon feel so much weaker than Nahiri to the point that he almost seems obsolete.
  • glggwp
    glggwp Posts: 202 Tile Toppler
    please buff the og jace's abilities back!
  • yunnnn
    yunnnn Posts: 168 Tile Toppler
    Should I buy Jace as my first non-10g planeswalker? I'm a 10year veteran of MTG, and have been playing this game for 2 weeks. I luckily pulled Tamiyo's Journal and the Thopter-generating support mythic, so I think new Jace is going to be a solid pw for me. However, I have these concerns:

    1. Is 15$ a fair amount to pay for a planeswalker? Please note that I've only been playing for 2 weeks, so I don't know how much they typically go for, especially the broken ones.
    2. Does he have a chance to be nerfed? I recently got onto these forums and the first thing I saw were the nerfs, so my wallet is clutched a bit tightly right now.
    3. Do you think he will be fun to play? I love love love liliana because it makes you plan your hand size, but jace 1.0 is just boring to me because his abilities are "fire-and-forget", and not that interesting.
    4. Should I focus on buying more cards or more pws? I've got ~5 of the big boxes so far, and all my original 5 pws are already level 60.

    Thanks for your time in answering these questions!
  • Lightcell
    Lightcell Posts: 78 Match Maker
    sageofhalo451 wrote:
    Forgotten Creation, Day's Undoing..... +24/24 and +20/20 respectively to all creatures... woah
    I can't remember the creatures name but was the blue mythic they just sold as well will be good with that setup, gains +1/+1 when a card is discarded

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