Nodes of power event change

Xefroziner
Xefroziner Posts: 12
edited September 2016 in MtGPQ Suggestions & Feedback
I have a full-time job during the week and a real life. The NOP event is unfair. Please start it at least one or two days earlier with maximum number of attempts and no refills. PLEASE
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  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
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  • Pqmtg-
    Pqmtg- Posts: 282
    Xefroziner wrote:
    I have a full-time job during the week and a real life. The NOP event is unfair. Please start it at least one or two days earlier with maximum number of attempts and no refills. PLEASE

    Also unfair that others have cards I don't have. Please make everyone play with starter decks.
  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    Xefroziner wrote:
    I have a full-time job during the week and a real life. The NOP event is unfair. Please start it at least one or two days earlier with maximum number of attempts and no refills. PLEASE

    Also unfair that others have cards I don't have. Please make everyone play with starter decks.

    First off, it's a valid concern so you don't need to troll him, just makes you look immature.

    I posted a suggestion about this in the SOI Terror event thread.

    When the event starts, players should not start with the maximum amount of matches banked. They should start with a couple banked and the regeneration timer should start immediately for everyone (say to a maximum of 5 matches banked). That way people who can't play for the first 12 hours or so don't always start the event behind by 20 matches or so. There is no reason to give anyone a head-start.
  • Pqmtg-
    Pqmtg- Posts: 282
    Steeme wrote:
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    Xefroziner wrote:
    I have a full-time job during the week and a real life. The NOP event is unfair. Please start it at least one or two days earlier with maximum number of attempts and no refills. PLEASE

    Also unfair that others have cards I don't have. Please make everyone play with starter decks.

    First off, it's a valid concern so you don't need to troll him, just makes you look immature.

    I posted a suggestion about this in the SOI Terror event thread.

    When the event starts, players should not start with the maximum amount of matches banked. They should start with a couple banked and the regeneration timer should start immediately for everyone (say to a maximum of 5 matches banked). That way people who can't play for the first 12 hours or so don't always start the event behind by 20 matches or so. There is no reason to give anyone a head-start.

    While I agree that being able to bank with more versatility is a great idea, it's a really stupid suggestion to say everyone starts off with Max attempts and no refills.

    What's the point of it being a 2 day event then? Everyone will complete it in the first 3 hours. If you can't, you're screwed anyway once they fix the "first to reach the goal wins" bug.

    The point of the events are to engage the player base for the duration. Furthermore, lots of people have lives and jobs. He's not a special snowflake. Like everyone else, he can make the decision to play for the top or not.

    Entertain complaints of this nature, and people will start complaining about being disadvantaged in quick battles too because they have lives and jobs.
  • Mangus 73
    Mangus 73 Posts: 109 Tile Toppler
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    Steeme wrote:
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    Xefroziner wrote:
    I have a full-time job during the week and a real life. The NOP event is unfair. Please start it at least one or two days earlier with maximum number of attempts and no refills. PLEASE

    Also unfair that others have cards I don't have. Please make everyone play with starter decks.

    First off, it's a valid concern so you don't need to troll him, just makes you look immature.

    I posted a suggestion about this in the SOI Terror event thread.

    When the event starts, players should not start with the maximum amount of matches banked. They should start with a couple banked and the regeneration timer should start immediately for everyone (say to a maximum of 5 matches banked). That way people who can't play for the first 12 hours or so don't always start the event behind by 20 matches or so. There is no reason to give anyone a head-start.

    While I agree that being able to bank with more versatility is a great idea, it's a really stupid suggestion to say everyone starts off with Max attempts and no refills.

    What's the point of it being a 2 day event then? Everyone will complete it in the first 3 hours. If you can't, you're screwed anyway once they fix the "first to reach the goal wins" bug.

    The point of the events are to engage the player base for the duration. Furthermore, lots of people have lives and jobs. He's not a special snowflake. Like everyone else, he can make the decision to play for the top or not.

    Entertain complaints of this nature, and people will start complaining about being disadvantaged in quick battles too because they have lives and jobs.
    First off they already are complaining about quick battle.
    Second , we are not expecting special treatment but its hardly right that because I stay in the uk and quick battle finishes at 3am I have to miss out on the top prizes that I would be able to reach if I wasn't beaten out of the top positions because I have to sleep. Your not the only person that plays this game so stop being a knob to people with legitimate issues.
  • Pqmtg-
    Pqmtg- Posts: 282
    Mangus 73 wrote:
    First off they already are complaining about quick battle.
    Second , we are not expecting special treatment but its hardly right that because I stay in the uk and quick battle finishes at 3am I have to miss out on the top prizes that I would be able to reach if I wasn't beaten out of the top positions because I have to sleep. Your not the only person that plays this game so stop being a knob to people with legitimate issues.


    Again, you're not the only one with timezone problems, which is why I really like that events don't end the same time quick battles do. Different groups of people have different advantages. Your timezone is arguably better than mine for both events and quick battles.

    People complain that it ends in the middle of the night, in the early morning, or in the afternoon. So many ways to complain, and no one seems to bother to figure out how so many people can play every single game in the ecent. Must be because they have no lives right?
  • Mangus 73
    Mangus 73 Posts: 109 Tile Toppler
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    Mangus 73 wrote:
    First off they already are complaining about quick battle.
    Second , we are not expecting special treatment but its hardly right that because I stay in the uk and quick battle finishes at 3am I have to miss out on the top prizes that I would be able to reach if I wasn't beaten out of the top positions because I have to sleep. Your not the only person that plays this game so stop being a knob to people with legitimate issues.


    Again, you're not the only one with timezone problems, which is why I really like that events don't end the same time quick battles do. Different groups of people have different advantages. Your timezone is arguably better than mine for both events and quick battles.

    People complain that it ends in the middle of the night, in the early morning, or in the afternoon. So many ways to complain, and no one seems to bother to figure out how so many people can play every single game in the ecent. Must be because they have no lives right?
    This is true and that's why people want to see a change though I will admit not every idea is any good. Just no need to troll peeps who voice their feelings on the matter.
  • Pqmtg- wrote:
    Xefroziner wrote:
    I have a full-time job during the week and a real life. The NOP event is unfair. Please start it at least one or two days earlier with maximum number of attempts and no refills. PLEASE

    Also unfair that others have cards I don't have. Please make everyone play with starter decks.
    Uhhhh, wouldn't a better solution be to give everyone all cards?

    EDIT: Did they fix the ranking issue? This whole event I've been checking the leaderboard like a crazy person trying to reproduce the issue, but it doesn't happen. I win a game, I have let's say 40 points, I get a position, let's say 23, I check the leaderboard and I am still at 23 and I'm the last person with 40 points.
    Before the event I would get the first position with 40 points and when I check the leaderboard I get the last place. Now I'm last without checking.
  • Pqmtg-
    Pqmtg- Posts: 282
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    Xefroziner wrote:
    I have a full-time job during the week and a real life. The NOP event is unfair. Please start it at least one or two days earlier with maximum number of attempts and no refills. PLEASE

    Also unfair that others have cards I don't have. Please make everyone play with starter decks.
    Uhhhh, wouldn't a better solution be to give everyone all cards?

    EDIT: Did they fix the ranking issue? This whole event I've been checking the leaderboard like a crazy person trying to reproduce the issue, but it doesn't happen. I win a game, I have let's say 40 points, I get a position, let's say 23, I check the leaderboard and I am still at 23 and I'm the last person with 40 points.
    Before the event I would get the first position with 40 points and when I check the leaderboard I get the last place. Now I'm last without checking.


    Actually I think a sealed deck event would be very fun. Or frustrating, depending on how much you value winning.
  • The cold hard truth is, you have the first 4 hours to play the first matches on every node. You wanted to sleep (or i dont know, tend your children a bit, whatever): you're screwed because that means 5 losses. With that many you are out of the event top25 for sure. 2 to 4 is the max, depends on the other players performance.

    More precisely: Play those first matches in the very first hour or you are on the bottom of the list of players with the same amount of points for sure.

    After that first one or two matches have been played on every node you can manage the time, but if you don't get a head start you are out of the event. 1 more in the counter would be nice though, if you must leave 1 match on the node, the six hour frame isn't enough to have a decent sleep and end/start a workday. The other event is much better in this regard (and in general too IMO. Devs: Thanks to your additional work on that, the Terror event is much more fun to play at the moment).

    Every other game where a timer is involved it puts you behind if you cant play the optimal schedule, but if you can make do with fewer resources, then it's your decision playing the game in harder difficulty. icon_e_wink.gif Here, the issue is you are shut out. It's not a disadvantage which can be reduced with good performance, but a guaranteed loss.
  • The best solution would be to up the number of stocked matches in a node to 4 (maybe even 5). Just so people can play every match.

    It's only a minor change but would make it a bit easier for everyone.
  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    Pqmtg- wrote:
    While I agree that being able to bank with more versatility is a great idea, it's a really stupid suggestion to say everyone starts off with Max attempts and no refills.

    What's the point of it being a 2 day event then? Everyone will complete it in the first 3 hours. If you can't, you're screwed anyway once they fix the "first to reach the goal wins" bug.

    The point of the events are to engage the player base for the duration. Furthermore, lots of people have lives and jobs. He's not a special snowflake. Like everyone else, he can make the decision to play for the top or not.

    Entertain complaints of this nature, and people will start complaining about being disadvantaged in quick battles too because they have lives and jobs.

    Ok I see your point now, apologies for calling it trolling (it's more like black humour). The issue is valid but his suggestion is a little weak (to put it mildly).

    The main concern is that we have static event times (starts and ends at the same time for everyone) but it is a global event that spans timezones. In addition, the mechanics of the events are designed in such a way that you need to maximize the number of matches played in order to compete for the higher positions in the ladder. I mean, you could hope that the other competitors lose more matches than you, in which case you can compete even after playing less matches, but that would only work if you were that much better than everyone else. That is, you're effectively playing the tournament with a predetermined disadvantage and will always be behind, playing "catchup".

    There are plenty of players who are able to start playing the event when it begins. I know this for a fact because by the time I start playing these events, the top of the leaderboard already has about 25 matches exhausted. These players get to start every event with a significant advantage. Fine, I suppose that's life, but it is "unfair", which is the point of the OP.

    I would like to see this addressed, as it would really spice up the competition. Think about how many players participate in the event, and just give up after they've achieved the progression rewards, simply because there is too far a gap between their current rank and the top rank.
  • fox1342
    fox1342 Posts: 174 Tile Toppler
    All these events are pooled sets of 3k players. Once one pool is full the next starts. If you leave it 5-6 hours after start you won't be in a pool with the keenest, and can reach higher spots for fewer ribbons. It's a bit of a gamble, sure. But QB has always been like this too.

    In my pool #1 is 70, as of now. #2 65, #10, 62 That's an 8 point spread already.
  • Mangus 73
    Mangus 73 Posts: 109 Tile Toppler
    fox1342 wrote:
    All these events are pooled sets of 3k players. Once one pool is full the next starts. If you leave it 5-6 hours after start you won't be in a pool with the keenest, and can reach higher spots for fewer ribbons. It's a bit of a gamble, sure. But QB has always been like this too.

    In my pool #1 is 70, as of now. #2 65, #10, 62 That's an 8 point spread already.
    Information I didn't know right there, I might give it a try.
  • I just feel bad that I have to let my coalition down during the week but do great for them on the weekends. It's my life I guess due to the "flawless" design of this game. Such a wonderful event system, game and life I have......
  • Be very thankful this game and the events have not gone the path of being able to buy node recharges for crystals!
  • Be very thankful this game and the events have not gone the path of being able to buy node recharges for crystals!
    Unfortunately you probably just gave the devs an idea.
  • majincob
    majincob Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    Xefroziner wrote:
    Be very thankful this game and the events have not gone the path of being able to buy node recharges for crystals!
    Unfortunately you probably just gave the devs an idea.
    I'm pretty sure they would not do that as that would totally break the game in Pay-to-Win fashion and be counter-productive in player retention and engagement.
  • I hope you are right majincob.
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