Meander wrote: Has it ever occurred to you this isn't Wow? You want a PVP example of cup caking? Fine- Magic the Gathering. I used to play PTQ level up back in the day. During tournaments your main goal was to get high enough to purposefully draw in to Top 8. How was this fair to other players? If you played it out, you or your opponent could miss top 8 and that slot would go to someone else (I fell victim to the 9th place due to draws many times). But by drawing, you'd both be in. You and your opponent were often not buds. Why would you help someone else (who is going to be an enemy in 5 mins?). Simple- to benefit you as much as him. CC's are the same. Edit- I've also straight up conceded to buddies to strengthen their points for positioning.
Calnexin wrote: Cupcakes! I haven't personally encountered one. And I know that, generally, baking is coordinated within an alliance, so they can benefit maximally. I've never been part of an alliance that utilized that level of communication. As such, I don't know how it works. I mean mechanically. I get that you put a weak team out there and shield. But what are the considerations when baking? How do you pull off a win with a weak team when you're at high points?
mohio wrote: @notamutant above - while people on LINE coordinating and using cupcakes, etc. to hit max progression, do have an easier time of hitting it more often than not, they are also providing more points to the slice overall which trickles down to all the players who aren't using LINE to coordinate and they will most likely have an easier time hitting progression because of it.
tizian2015 wrote: JVReal wrote: tizian2015 wrote: You say, you are fighting against the system with this coordination, so the system is the enemy. So the only possible interpretation is mine, not yours, regardless what you want to say. Knowing the mechanic of a broken system and abuse it is cheating. Period. I looked up the definition of cheat... none of them match your interpretation. Cupcakes do not fall under the definition of cheating. Cupcakes do not defraud D3, there are no ill-gotten gains, there is no nefarious intent. A valid 3 member team beats a different 3 member team for genuine points. PVP. The next time you play PVP, and you get seed teams, I expect you to skip them, because by your own definition D3 is giving you cupcakes and if you beat them for points, you are cheating. Skip those cupcakes that D3 has given you... those cheaters! Seeds are the only way to get points so they are the reason others get points and so on. Seeds are no possibility to gain up to 1300+ points. So they are a legitimate piece of the game.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CheatingIn video games, cheating can take the form of secret access codes in single-player games (such as the Konami code[14]) which unlock a bonus for the player when entered, hacks and exploits which give players an unfair advantage in online multiplayer games and single-player modes, or unfair collusion between players in online games (such as a player who spectates a match, removing limitations such as "fog of war", and reports on enemy positions to game partners). It´s unfair to people not using line-communities to spread easy targets which are seen mainly only to people in these communities (because only they know to search for them) and which grant many points to get easy progression to get high rewards etc.
JVReal wrote: tizian2015 wrote: You say, you are fighting against the system with this coordination, so the system is the enemy. So the only possible interpretation is mine, not yours, regardless what you want to say. Knowing the mechanic of a broken system and abuse it is cheating. Period. I looked up the definition of cheat... none of them match your interpretation. Cupcakes do not fall under the definition of cheating. Cupcakes do not defraud D3, there are no ill-gotten gains, there is no nefarious intent. A valid 3 member team beats a different 3 member team for genuine points. PVP. The next time you play PVP, and you get seed teams, I expect you to skip them, because by your own definition D3 is giving you cupcakes and if you beat them for points, you are cheating. Skip those cupcakes that D3 has given you... those cheaters!
tizian2015 wrote: You say, you are fighting against the system with this coordination, so the system is the enemy. So the only possible interpretation is mine, not yours, regardless what you want to say. Knowing the mechanic of a broken system and abuse it is cheating. Period.