I LOVED the pvp event

Morphis
Morphis Posts: 975 Critical Contributor
edited February 2017 in MtGPQ General Discussion
Simple as that.
Usually even if I really enjoy some content, i still find something that is not good or could have been better.

This time I felt everything was perfect:

- threshold reward: Even if you do not get good placement you get guaranteed nice stuff. While this is not usually useful for me(if I compete I get always something good cause I have time to dedicate to it) I know it is vital for more casual gamers.

- rotating planeswalkers: you do not feel forced to use only the best performing planeswalker, you have to use many different ones.

- quality instead of quantity: it is basically of no influence how fast you win. It is much more important to not lose. Slow control decks make finally sense.

- no need for grind: the timer for further matches make it that you can compete playing not much. As I stated in another topic I have some ongoing family matters but managed to get in a good position in leaderboard nonetheless.

I cannot honestly find something that could be improved.
Kudos to the devs icon_cool.gif
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  • M3f
    M3f Posts: 46
    Rewards are subpar kinda, but maybe in higher tiers they'll be better. But i like the idea of promoting the other colors...
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    M3f wrote:
    Rewards are subpar kinda, but maybe in higher tiers they'll be better. But i like the idea of promoting the other colors...

    I think finally having a chance at some of the Origins Mythics we missed out on , was a great idea!

    This event is one of the most enjoyable i've played , and that includes 650+ days of MPQ. I got to used PW's i have leveled but left alone, it forced me to try and make a workable deck for Liliana (which i finally did, sorta.. still in progress), and the progression rewards were very much worth the time.
  • raidan
    raidan Posts: 128
    I agree. This overall is a very good event. I highly appreciate the fact that you can take your time, build a proper deck and slowly win vs trying to speed win. It's also nice that because of tiers; it will be more friendly to beginners who want to partake in the event.

    That being said, I too feel that the time invested vs the rewards (at least at low tier) are very lacking. There is one improvement I would highly suggest: When you win a match, you get 300 runes instead of 100. I see no reason why you should get 1/3 the runes as you do in quick battle victories.

    Also small complaint of RNG, if you get dealt a poor hand of cards and the enemy gets mega cascades, you're pretty much guaranteed to lose that match. Just a gripe, I know this is part of every card game.
  • majincob
    majincob Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    I loved it too. I think the only change worth mentioning is having 2-4 time groups so that you don't have to start in that 4 hour time window to get the best possible score. Or make the event 48 hours and limit the total number of games you can play with each 'walker so even if you start 12 hours into the event you can still play all the matches.
  • Morphis
    Morphis Posts: 975 Critical Contributor
    majincob wrote:
    I loved it too. I think the only change worth mentioning is having 2-4 time groups so that you don't have to start in that 4 hour time window to get the best possible score. Or make the event 48 hours and limit the total number of games you can play with each 'walker so even if you start 12 hours into the event you can still play all the matches.
    Uhm yeah I got into it later and definitely lost some matches.
    I think they could make it so that(if that's not already the case) when event starts you have one attempt with each planeswalker.
    This way you have up to 8 hours(2 chargeable attempts left, each 4 hours) to get on game and spend the first attempt.

    If that's already the case(again I joined late so I cannot tell) well you cannot expect to join too late and not be at a little disadvantage.
  • bgqtony
    bgqtony Posts: 24
    I haven't been too excited about the matchmaking. My low level PWs seem to be constantly matched with PWs 10 or more levels higher. That makes winning a lot more difficult. Doesn't seem very fair.
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    As the hardcores master more cards and colors, the MMR separation will become more apparent. Right now, the event started with most not having had time to master too much. These events will become way more balanced as time goes on.
  • majincob
    majincob Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    bgqtony wrote:
    I haven't been too excited about the matchmaking. My low level PWs seem to be constantly matched with PWs 10 or more levels higher. That makes winning a lot more difficult. Doesn't seem very fair.

    You should be paired against decks of people in the same mastery level as you. Since this is the first event not many higher-tier players actually moved out of bronze before they joined the event. After a few weeks bronze should thin out and your planeswalkers should be higher level as well.
  • Barrelrolla
    Barrelrolla Posts: 289
    Well, I have a friend who started less than a month ago. He has not more than 5 rares total and no mythics. His stronges planeswalker is Nissa at 45, the others are all 10-20.
    You always get matched with an opponent that is exactly 10+ level above you. That means he has to play with a lvl 14 Chandra for example against someone who is 24 and probably has better cards.
    It's almost impossible for him to achieve anything in this event, he's hoping for the second reward, which is 10 crystals.
    Both events so far have been too hard for new players.
    I mean, I understand that you can't make it easy, so anyone can win, but you should consider helping new players get in the game in some way. For example, just a bit after I started playing in December, there was a free Fat Pack for everyone as compensation for some issues. And Fat Packs back then had better drop rates than they do now. I got a lot of good cards from it that really helped me start playing the game properly.
    There has to be a way for new players to get into the game, so they can hook up and stay. Making everyone 10 levels above is not very welcoming.

    For me, as a veteran player, I have no complaints. Some of my planeswalkers are still level 50 and I had to face level 60 opponents, but my decks are good enough that I don't really care. I still lost 2 fights though, because not all of my decks are like my Sarkhan and Kiora decks, but that's okay.
  • bgqtony
    bgqtony Posts: 24
    majincob wrote:
    bgqtony wrote:
    I haven't been too excited about the matchmaking. My low level PWs seem to be constantly matched with PWs 10 or more levels higher. That makes winning a lot more difficult. Doesn't seem very fair.

    You should be paired against decks of people in the same mastery level as you. Since this is the first event not many higher-tier players actually moved out of bronze before they joined the event. After a few weeks bronze should thin out and your planeswalkers should be higher level as well.

    That would make sense, except for the PWs higher level then me always have way more hit points, sometimes 20+. That makes winning a lot harder. I don't really understand the logic on it. The only one I'm not struggling with is my 1 level 60pw.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hear, hear! You guys really knocked it out of the park with this one. No grinding, rewards for playing well rather than more, and enforcing the use of 5 different planeswalkers was inspired.
  • majincob
    majincob Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    bgqtony wrote:
    That would make sense, except for the PWs higher level then me always have way more hit points, sometimes 20+. That makes winning a lot harder. I don't really understand the logic on it. The only one I'm not struggling with is my 1 level 60pw.
    Planeswalkers gain HP as they level up. I'm not sure why they always pair people up so much. I have enough level 60's that I didn't know. I'm sorry icon_e_sad.gif
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    I have one tiny, tiny criticism of the event (it's a small one, and hasn't marred my enjoyment of it), which is that I missed some potential matches that I could have played at the start of the event because I wasn't sure how the mechanics of the system worked when I joined.

    Anybody else have that, or was I just being a bit dopey?
  • majincob
    majincob Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    shteev wrote:
    I have one tiny, tiny criticism of the event (it's a small one, and hasn't marred my enjoyment of it), which is that I missed some potential matches that I could have played at the start of the event because I wasn't sure how the mechanics of the system worked when I joined.

    Anybody else have that, or was I just being a bit dopey?

    Yeah that's just a bit of learning curve in the new event. Took me a while to realize what was happening too.
  • soultwist
    soultwist Posts: 325 Mover and Shaker
    majincob wrote:
    shteev wrote:
    I have one tiny, tiny criticism of the event (it's a small one, and hasn't marred my enjoyment of it), which is that I missed some potential matches that I could have played at the start of the event because I wasn't sure how the mechanics of the system worked when I joined.

    Anybody else have that, or was I just being a bit dopey?

    Yeah that's just a bit of learning curve in the new event. Took me a while to realize what was happening too.

    I agree on the learning curve I'd have done some stuff different. I didn't get one of the planeswalkers I wanted, and I started up without checking my green deck and it was BAD. But seems pretty cool all in all.
  • ToneLoki
    ToneLoki Posts: 4
    I really liked it too. It helped manage my obsessive - compulsive tendencies.
  • norjee
    norjee Posts: 15 Just Dropped In
    edited July 2016
    Funny how different my experience was.

    The previous event really renewed my interest in this game, i could, with a little luck, beat chapter one and the first enemies of chapter two, the rewards (chrystals) we great. A nice benefit was that i got a better feeling for the game mechanics/deck building, so i ended up with a decent level 60 planeswalker that could hold its own in quickbattle (mind you not a fast deck, but hey, i finally could farm runes to help me level up)

    But this event?? This time my reward is 10 or 15 mana crystals and a few runes, it feels ****, but i only ended with 12pts, if anything this event does not seems to help casual players like me at all, it feels as if designed to instead increase the gap between hardcore and noob/casual players (where hardcore (that manages to run 5 solid pw's/colors) gets better/bigger rewards from higher tiers and higher rank (speaking just for myself, i'll never manage to get high mastery in all colors, and neither 5 decent level pw's)).

    As i said i have one leveled out planeswalker, basic gideon, my other planeswalkers are also the starting ones, i have none of the new ones. My secondary best planeswalker is a level 23 nissa, the others aren't even level 10. Playing with these low level planeswalker while ALWAYS getting matched against way higher level planeswalker not only gave me that health disadvantage, it also gave me a mana disadvantage, as higher level ones generally get more mana for a match. This also made me realize that the newer planeswalkers generally seem to get more mana from matching gems. So the newer planeswalker generally have more health and get more mana, plus their abilities seem stronger too.

    I just want to enjoy this game occasionally, but it's clear that if i want to play anything except story mode i'll either you have to keep on competing daily to keep my up with new developments or be prepared to buy my way to competitiveness by getting a new planeswalker plus the occasional offered strong cards. I haven't felt so put down about this game since my precious gideon lost it's lifelink special ability.
  • majincob
    majincob Posts: 732 Critical Contributor
    Just a note. You can change your deck in between matches and it shows you your opponent's planeswalker so you can, for instance, do what I did and sideboard in support destruction in your Nissa deck when facing Venser. icon_cool.gif
  • tm00
    tm00 Posts: 155 Tile Toppler
    edited July 2016
    I'm just happy that they are rewarding origins stuff again.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    norjee wrote:
    But this event?? This time my reward is 10 or 15 mana crystals and a few runes, it feels ****, but i only ended with 12pts, if anything this event does not seems to help casual players like me at all, it feels as if designed to instead increase the gap between hardcore and noob/casual players (where hardcore (that manages to run 5 solid pw's/colors) gets better/bigger rewards from higher tiers and higher rank (speaking just for myself, i'll never manage to get high mastery in all colors, and neither 5 decent level pw's)).

    Perhaps introducing the mastery system, and then immediately running a mastery based tournament, was not the best idea. I've definitely got a really decent bunch of cards, and dual color planeswalkers, but I was in the bronze tier this time around because I didn't fancy all the grinding associated with ranking up.

    Hopefully by the next event, the bronze tier should be better weighted towards beginners.