Who should get the Bagman Treatment for 3* and 4*?

amusingfoo1

OneLastGambit wrote:

Personally I like mr f, pair him with carnage and x23 and you have probably the most frustrating team to face in SIM.

I've tried real hard to like IW and cho, I experiment with a lot of different teams to find niche uses and so far these are the only two Who are useless in every team and are still awful when boosted. If they are not going to be fixed then they need to be removed from LT odds entirely. There's zero chance I will ever put iso into them again and cho will never make it onto my roster id rather skip an entire event that he's essential for than roster him.

3* is tricker as the useless ones lead into good 4* covers. I don't regret champing vision (even though I did it while he was bugged because he was bugged) because he rewards me with Cyclops covers. Rags gives rulk, Spidey gives miles (hey I like miles) etc.

Also selling a 3* cover really doesn't bother me, I've been doing it since the start. However 'pulling a cho' gets me mad...he's terrible. Doesn't fit into any team very well, is useless on his own and gives only random tokens as champ rewards..so why roster him?

If d3 wants people to roster and level these characters then they should change their champs rewards so they reward 5* character instead of tokens...I'll get they'll be more popular then and people won't get so mad about pulling them.

Honestly, I wouldn't mind pulling Cho's if I had 370k extra ISO to champion him. Yes, he's terrible (I haven't found any way to make him work either), but the champion rewards alone would make it worth having him. If I had the ISO.

And I just checked; I've pulled seven of him from legendaries, just since the most recent odds change.

BillyBobJoe

1. Silver Surfer
2. 5cap

i don't have these "elite" 5*s, so I wouldn't know.

3. Starlord

needs a rework due to the fact that Capt Peggy now has a PASSIVE ability, and does it BETTER than Starlord's Red!

4. Elektra

Actually a fairly decent character, especially for PVE. She's a great support character and would probably be played more if her RED didn't suck so much

5. Cho

I don't play him. Period. His BLACK ability has got to be the absolute worst ability in the game.

6. Mr. Fantastic

Another good support characer. However, I would tweak his abilities a little. His yellow should generate GREEN regardless of who he is paired with. The severely limited functionality of this part of the ability (one **** 4*, an out of place 3*, and a joke of a 2*) makes me question why it even exists. And change his BLACK so that it increases by 2 instead of 1 (like 4* cyclops YELLOW)

7. Spidergwen

I really want to love this character. Instead, I say, "meh." Her stun is decent (arguably better than Cpt. Peggy). She hits like a hammer (RED), but is sllloow. You either need a red generator or bring Miles along to create web tiles so that it's cost is reduced. Her yellow sucks, period. The only saving grace is that yellow creates web tiles so you can fire RED sooner.

8. Miles Morales

Shame! This is a good character! Cheap stun/damage, invisibility which turns into a nuke, and free AP generation! I've gone back and forth on a good build for him, but really is a matter who he is paired with.

9. Venom

Another character I want to like. He's situational. Green is good against special tile makers. His yellow is awesome since there is a lack of other good 4* yellow abilities. (maybe Nova, Cyclops?) Since I've only recently champed him, I haven't had a chance to test drive him much.

10. Drax

I have 10 covers for him and I already know he'll get iso the day Cho does too. I guess I just don't get his powers. Also, I despise turn enders unless I'm getting something good out of it. (Hood is okay. Squirrel Girl is not.)

11. AntMan

Shame! Antman is a PVE god! I'm constantly respecing him based on his teammates or opponents. Wish I could run him 5/5/5.

12. IW

A throwback to the early days of this game. Already had one update which made her more "playable", now she needs another rework. I'm sure somewhere somebody is putting her support abilities to use, but other characters do what she does better.

13. Doc ock

I like this character. His black is what makes me come back again and again. Wish the BLUE was a little cheaper, since if there are no special tiles it's basically Loki's PURPLE power.

14. Sentry

King of the Nerfs. They took a sledgehammer to him, hard. Needs to be buffed back up a little. Either reduce GREEN back down to 7, or reduce the CDs back down to 2. Either one, D3, your choice. As he is, he's a suicide machine greater than Carnage.

15. Vision

As the 4th to last 3* ever to be released, I never leveled him. I don't play him other than when he is a required character. However, I can see in order for this character to be effective he needs to tank. Which means he needs to be champed and have lots of levels. For me, that just ain't going to happen.

16. Squirrel Girl

I'm on the fence with this character. Cheap powerful PURPLE (in the right situations), and a cascade generating GREEN (maybe). YELLOW is nice IF ONLY IT DIDN'T END THE TURN.

17. Ragnarok

Poor Rags. I don't know what will save him. But I don't mind playing with him as a BLUE generator and meat #.

18. Psylocke

Sorry. I like her. Cheap attack tiles with damage. Strike tile generator. Who needs BLUE (which is annoying as hell if the opponent gets it off) when you have two other good abilities at 5 covers anyways?

19. Beast

Hugely disagree. Ever since his change, I consider him an upper tier 3* (Not top10, but definitely upper half) His BLUE is spammy, which lends well to his GREEN. YELLOW is **** (Isn't ALL Fake Healing?) but again, you already have two other abilities at 5 covers.

20. Quicksilver

Agree totally. Although his update did make his powers (BLUE) more controllable, his BLUE still sucks because 1) other locked tiles don't help him AND 2) other characters do AOE damage better and more easily. His other two abilities are dependent on locked tiles so it makes him an unreliable character.

21. 3Spidey

If you switched his **** YELLOW to the 1* spidey RED ability, he'd become instantly popular. As he is, he is a decent support character with absolutely no ability to defend himself. (Prof X is a close second)

22. Colossus

Hold your left hand high, while touching your nose with your right pinkie finger, while hopping on your left foot. and that's how Colossus is played. His RED needs to be timed perfectly, or have the yellow out, or be the last man standing to be effective. A character's popularity has as much to do with the defense of a character as well as the offense of a character. Since the AI has no idea how to play the abilities properly (firing them out of turn, or firing a weaker color power color the more powerful color ability.) Carnage is better on defense, than he is on offense which lends to his popularity. BLACK captures the comic book image of Colossus, but is highly costed.

Malcrof

Y'all need to leave Psylocke and Cho alone! I love using both, and Psylocke was one of my go-to trio for PVE before i had 4*s, it is just a matter of learning how to use her. (she was one of my first max covered, so i learned how to use her in any situation). Cho may take a bit to get going, but an ability that adds damage per AP without draining the AP like IMHB and Ares, especially when boosted, can pack a wallop (amazing wave node specialist, targeted board shake and all).

and yes, a few times i got off a Hot Dog Stand! (i ever have a screenshot of it!)

Fix his black, but he is not as bad as people think.


Now here is the thing, w/ bagman and yelena, you can still get them as random PVP rewards, so if we add a 3* and 4*, how exactly do you plan on letting people get the covers?

But, for 4*, Reed, not even me, the forever optimist, can find a use for him. 3*, Colossus, i mean seriously, outside of when he is essential, does anyone actually use him? Fastball special is better as a team up, and even sentry, for all the hatred makes an amazing strike tile, and rags self heals, self ap accelerates and makes charged tiles.. so those 2 are useful.