Thanks for all the Iso!

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250K banked now, altho I'm unsure if I should get classic mags from 40 to 141 for lighting rounds.
Ah well its almost over so I guess I'll save it, and likely next week is heroic rounds.
Still kinda unexpected tho, I got all of 1 green hulk cover, really disappointing, finishing the event at 2/2/0 hulk when I expected I'd be at least 10 covers in with it being his featured event.

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I'm also loving the amount of Iso given out lately. The Hulk event has given me over 70k Iso, and I hope the next PvE event will be just as generous.

I do agree that the reduction in cover rewards is a bit annoying, but as someone who has the majority of characters at max covers, I'm okay with it as Iso is definitely what I need (though a load of BP covers would be really nice!).

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I don't know what you're seeing, but these last events (Hulk event) have everything except good ISO flow.

Brotherhood was great, with those 2.5K and 1K bonuses.

Now we don't get 500 ISO as rewards, we get 250. Now we don't get 200 ISO for first time completion, now we get 100.

Where are you seeing all this? I have barely 2K ISO now and I need to level up tons of characters and I can't, I barely managed to up my Black Widow to 85 for this event.

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someguy321 wrote:

I don't know what you're seeing, but these last events (Hulk event) have everything except good ISO flow.

Brotherhood was great, with those 2.5K and 1K bonuses.

Now we don't get 500 ISO as rewards, we get 250. Now we don't get 200 ISO for first time completion, now we get 100.

Where are you seeing all this? I have barely 2K ISO now and I need to level up tons of characters and I can't, I barely managed to up my Black Widow to 85 for this event.

I collected 30k in a week, by playing on and off in the event without depleting every node, so yes, the ISO is flowing.

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In between lighting rounds, the ISO payout for the event is pretty good.
Are you blowing your ISO on boost or something?
Heck the progression reward was 8k ISO!

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someguy321 wrote:

I don't know what you're seeing, but these last events (Hulk event) have everything except good ISO flow.

Brotherhood was great, with those 2.5K and 1K bonuses.

Now we don't get 500 ISO as rewards, we get 250. Now we don't get 200 ISO for first time completion, now we get 100.

Where are you seeing all this? I have barely 2K ISO now and I need to level up tons of characters and I can't, I barely managed to up my Black Widow to 85 for this event.

Each sub-event gives out 1k Iso if you finish inside the top 200, which I've done with every single sub-event. Also, in the harder of the subs, there are 500 Iso rewards on each mission (along with 250 as well), so I've gotten a load of them. I've also passed every progression reward, meaning I've pulled in over 10k Iso from progression rewards alone. It's really not hard to pull in a load of Iso if you're willing to put a little bit of time and effort in.

To be clear, I don't think my entire 70k Iso reserve is from the Hulk event, as I have dropped into the PvP events a little, but I reckon I've made at least 60k Iso from Hulk, probably more like 65k.

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Dunkelgrau wrote:

entropic01 wrote:

Once you get past beginner phase, you will realize that ISO is FAR FAR more valuable than covers. I probably could have built 4-5 Storms by now.

First, that is what selling covers is for. It corrects for everything in one step. "But they give you more ISO than the older covers sold for!" That just means their sell price is still too low.

Second, covers have a differential value relative to ISO that changes as you play the game. How exactly would you expect people to get past the "beginner phase" with the drastically reduced access to covers?

Third, covers are extremely high variance. I could have built ~3 Moonstones, 2x Thor, 2x Capt, and 2x Dakens by now, but I am just getting to ~10 covers for some of the core 2* characters (c.Storm, OBW, a.Wolvie). I had about 55x 3* covers and 2x IW before I got a single OBW drop. I had a lvl 64 Patches before I had any 2* hero past the 20s, so I just built 3* heroes because it was easier than 2*. Variance is like that. I already have 3* characters with more covers than most of my 2*s because of just constantly rocking events (Patch, c.Mags, Punisher, IM, Spidey). Now, it is even harder to build a 2* team.

I'm fully aware of the role ISO plays to 3* team development, but unlike you, I realize that that doesn't mean we settle upon inferior solutions. Please attempt some modicum of analysis next time instead of making poor assumptions.

I've only been playing for three months but I had the same problem as you with OBW and also with cStorm, until I realized I just needed a rather low rank in a couple of tourneys to get the covers. The covers for the 2 stars are not hidden or hard to get at all. (Maybe yellow Thor but I dunno.) But even if they weren't, there has to be some sense of earning your way through the game or else people would stop playing early on. (Economics + psychology = items need to have value in order to be considered valuable, free items are generally not considered valuable.) And this is a gambling game, not a hand you what you want game - unless you have a lot of cash to drop, that much is really clear and not likely to change.

The thing I love most about the ISO reward boost is that it wasn't something that was complained about the forums by people who are constantly trying to backseat drive the game development, yet they noticed the need was there and fixed it.

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Viorala wrote:

The thing I love most about the ISO reward boost is that it wasn't something that was complained about the forums by people who are constantly trying to backseat drive the game development, yet they noticed the need was there and fixed it.

There were a select few of us (me) that have been ISO whining since mid-January.

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Dunkelgrau wrote:

Third, covers are extremely high variance. I could have built ~3 Moonstones, 2x Thor, 2x Capt, and 2x Dakens by now, but I am just getting to ~10 covers for some of the core 2* characters (c.Storm, OBW, a.Wolvie). I had about 55x 3* covers and 2x IW before I got a single OBW drop. I had a lvl 64 Patches before I had any 2* hero past the 20s, so I just built 3* heroes because it was easier than 2*. Variance is like that. I already have 3* characters with more covers than most of my 2*s because of just constantly rocking events (Patch, c.Mags, Punisher, IM, Spidey). Now, it is even harder to build a 2* team.

I'm fully aware of the role ISO plays to 3* team development, but unlike you, I realize that that doesn't mean we settle upon inferior solutions. Please attempt some modicum of analysis next time instead of making poor assumptions.

Your analysis is based on your incomplete experience of only a portion of the game. Once you reach higher levels, you will see that covers are far and away less valuable than ISO. Even if you can’t get the covers from winning a tournament, you will have excess HP to buy 2* covers since they are relatively inexpensive HP wise. Look at posts from the guys with highly developed rosters, they sit on large numbers of tokens (including Heroics) and HP because they have no use for them. However, I’m sure their ISO reserves could be used in an instant if they really wanted to. There are several posts about this token hoarding or even spending HP to turn it into ISO (see 1* tourney).

I'm not saying that covers are useless when they clearly aren't and they are more valuable in the short term but in the end, ISO exceeds the value of covers.