Thanks for all the Iso!

Unknown

Now I don't post on here very often, more because I tend to lurk and read people complaining rather than participate in the complaining, but I wanted to thank the devs for really ramping up how much Iso they are giving the players.

From the boosted iso to not skip, to the 1000's they are giving away at the end of tournaments, and even a repeat of past PVE tournaments, there are plenty of ways now to get more iso than ever. I for one think that's swell.

Unknown

I have a feeling that someone at the company realised that with more and more three-star characters they release to level up, the amount of ISO needed is increasing rapidly.

TheVulture

I'm certainly on a good roll also, so the ISO must be adding up nicely here & there.

If I can make 17k more event point in the next 2 days, I'll get another 8k ISO too...

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TheVulture wrote:

I'm certainly on a good roll also, so the ISO must be adding up nicely here & there.

If I can make 17k more event point in the next 2 days, I'll get another 8k ISO too...

Unless something changes drastically with the next subs, you're going to clear that with no problem. Never give up, never surrender!

Unknown

With the current Iso rates, you can pretty easily get a new character to lv100 every week. Maybe even lv130 or so if you grind really hard, and participate in every lightning round. It almost feels like too much, but I guess not everybody plays as much as we do.

Unknown

GoldenLink wrote:

Now I don't post on here very often, more because I tend to lurk and read people complaining rather than participate in the complaining, but I wanted to thank the devs for really ramping up how much Iso they are giving the players.

From the boosted iso to not skip, to the 1000's they are giving away at the end of tournaments, and even a repeat of past PVE tournaments, there are plenty of ways now to get more iso than ever. I for one think that's swell.

I agree, I need lots and I've been getting it, so I'm pretty happy. I think it's great the devs are looking out for us enough to know that we were getting iso-starved.

IceIX

Celerity wrote:

With the current Iso rates, you can pretty easily get a new character to lv100 every week. Maybe even lv130 or so if you grind really hard, and participate in every lightning round. It almost feels like too much, but I guess not everybody plays as much as we do.

No, no they don't.

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GoldenLink wrote:

From the boosted iso to not skip, to the 1000's they are giving away at the end of tournaments, and even a repeat of past PVE tournaments, there are plenty of ways now to get more iso than ever. I for one think that's swell.

I thought that was neat as well, until I realized that they cut the cover payouts pretty heavily. You need to be top 10 to get 2x 3* covers now, which is a large change from top 15. The 2* cover situation is now atrocious. If 51-200 are going to get just one m.Storm cover, you should be able to choose what it is. Same with the 10-50 crowd getting just one 3* cover. It's pretty bad when you look at the event payouts from 11-(infinity) and see zero useful covers to collect, which is now very, very possible.

Vohnkar

Just wanted to add my thanks to the devs for the recent changes in ISO, the +30 ISO for not skipping is quite nice when I get matches around my lvl. If the matches are really high for me I can skip some times without any ISO dump because now you get at least 100 ISO for winning

I've finally been able to lvl some heroes, I was stuck since the PvE event of the hood, I was dumping all my ISO on boosts trying to see the content and getting some covers, but on the last couple of weeks I've earn enough ISO to lvl magneto 2* and Thor 2* to the 70-80s, so now I have 4 2* at the 80s ^^

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Dunkelgrau wrote:

GoldenLink wrote:

From the boosted iso to not skip, to the 1000's they are giving away at the end of tournaments, and even a repeat of past PVE tournaments, there are plenty of ways now to get more iso than ever. I for one think that's swell.

I thought that was neat as well, until I realized that they cut the cover payouts pretty heavily. You need to be top 10 to get 2x 3* covers now, which is a large change from top 15. The 2* cover situation is now atrocious. If 51-200 are going to get just one m.Storm cover, you should be able to choose what it is. Same with the 10-50 crowd getting just one 3* cover. It's pretty bad when you look at the event payouts from 11-(infinity) and see zero useful covers to collect, which is now very, very possible.

Once you get past beginner phase, you will realize that ISO is FAR FAR more valuable than covers. I probably could have built 4-5 Storms by now.

kensterr

Not that I'm complaining but I received Facebook gifts from myself this morning. I think about 10 times... ISO and tokens. Is it a new bug or compensation for wrong tokens reward?
(not meaning to hijack the thread, but it is afterall, "thanks for all the ISO"... which is what I got this morning!)

IceIX

kensterr wrote:

Not that I'm complaining but I received Facebook gifts from myself this morning. I think about 10 times... ISO and tokens. Is it a new bug or compensation for wrong tokens reward?
(not meaning to hijack the thread, but it is afterall, "thanks for all the ISO"... which is what I got this morning!)

Did you put in a ticket for missing tokens or something recently? The notification for a server given gift looks almost exactly like a FB gift dialog.

HailMary

+1 on the Iso praise. Being a player without sky-high MMR, I don't dislike the skip tax with the boosted 70/140 drops. It's a pretty clever system.

entropic01 wrote:

Once you get past beginner phase, you will realize that ISO is FAR FAR more valuable than covers. I probably could have built 4-5 Storms by now.

I suppose it depends on what covers you're looking for, though. For example, 3* covers have real scarcity, and I have awful luck with certain specific 2* covers (I'm looking at you, Thor Yellow). But yeah, I'm starting to hit the stage at which Iso scarcity becomes truly palpable (current event aside), and I've thrown away entire 13-cover sets of MStorms, Juggs, and MBW's straight from my reward queue.

bahamut685

Celerity wrote:

With the current Iso rates, you can pretty easily get a new character to lv100 every week. Maybe even lv130 or so if you grind really hard, and participate in every lightning round. It almost feels like too much, but I guess not everybody plays as much as we do.

Or... enough to level a 3* to 65ish, if we're not radically over-embellishing.

kensterr

IceIX wrote:

kensterr wrote:

Not that I'm complaining but I received Facebook gifts from myself this morning. I think about 10 times... ISO and tokens. Is it a new bug or compensation for wrong tokens reward?
(not meaning to hijack the thread, but it is afterall, "thanks for all the ISO"... which is what I got this morning!)

Did you put in a ticket for missing tokens or something recently? The notification for a server given gift looks almost exactly like a FB gift dialog.

Yes I did. I got 3 Heroic Tokens instead of 3 Assault Tokens. Though not Assault Tokens I don't really mind much as at least I got some ISOs if this is indeed the server gifts.

Unknown

I was wondering if they made the cover pulls better too. 4 out of my last 5 heroic pulls were hulk black, patch, IW and Punisher. All 4 right in a row..... Then I got a bag man.

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entropic01 wrote:

Once you get past beginner phase, you will realize that ISO is FAR FAR more valuable than covers. I probably could have built 4-5 Storms by now.

First, that is what selling covers is for. It corrects for everything in one step. "But they give you more ISO than the older covers sold for!" That just means their sell price is still too low.

Second, covers have a differential value relative to ISO that changes as you play the game. How exactly would you expect people to get past the "beginner phase" with the drastically reduced access to covers?

Third, covers are extremely high variance. I could have built ~3 Moonstones, 2x Thor, 2x Capt, and 2x Dakens by now, but I am just getting to ~10 covers for some of the core 2* characters (c.Storm, OBW, a.Wolvie). I had about 55x 3* covers and 2x IW before I got a single OBW drop. I had a lvl 64 Patches before I had any 2* hero past the 20s, so I just built 3* heroes because it was easier than 2*. Variance is like that. I already have 3* characters with more covers than most of my 2*s because of just constantly rocking events (Patch, c.Mags, Punisher, IM, Spidey). Now, it is even harder to build a 2* team.

I'm fully aware of the role ISO plays to 3* team development, but unlike you, I realize that that doesn't mean we settle upon inferior solutions. Please attempt some modicum of analysis next time instead of making poor assumptions.

Unknown

Now that I'm getting enough ISO to level my characters I don't mind spending a little on hp to buy shields and acquire more new covers. Before it was pointless because I couldn't level 3/4 of what I had going.

NorthernPolarity

I have 100k iso banked for probably lazythor or bp once i get more covers: the iso generation has been pretty crazy as of late.

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Dunkelgrau wrote:

entropic01 wrote:

Once you get past beginner phase, you will realize that ISO is FAR FAR more valuable than covers. I probably could have built 4-5 Storms by now.

First, that is what selling covers is for. It corrects for everything in one step. "But they give you more ISO than the older covers sold for!" That just means their sell price is still too low.

Second, covers have a differential value relative to ISO that changes as you play the game. How exactly would you expect people to get past the "beginner phase" with the drastically reduced access to covers?

Third, covers are extremely high variance. I could have built ~3 Moonstones, 2x Thor, 2x Capt, and 2x Dakens by now, but I am just getting to ~10 covers for some of the core 2* characters (c.Storm, OBW, a.Wolvie). I had about 55x 3* covers and 2x IW before I got a single OBW drop. I had a lvl 64 Patches before I had any 2* hero past the 20s, so I just built 3* heroes because it was easier than 2*. Variance is like that. I already have 3* characters with more covers than most of my 2*s because of just constantly rocking events (Patch, c.Mags, Punisher, IM, Spidey). Now, it is even harder to build a 2* team.

I'm fully aware of the role ISO plays to 3* team development, but unlike you, I realize that that doesn't mean we settle upon inferior solutions. Please attempt some modicum of analysis next time instead of making poor assumptions.

Hear hear.

Although the last line may be a bit harsh.

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Dunkelgrau wrote:

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They think mid players get plenty of covers already and want to tweak the cover/iso ratio. Welcome to the new paradigm.