*** The Hood (Classic) ***

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GothicKratos wrote:

Are you going to ignore him all together and take down the real damage dealers?

Pro tip: unless your strategy is "massive AOE damage", doing this is a really good way to lose. Badly.

hurcules

GothicKratos wrote:

This is simple enough, so I shouldn't need to elaborate, but I can if someone wishes.

The Hood is absolutely not "the problem". 'A problem', maybe, but not broken.

Sentry is absolutely not "the problem". 'A problem', maybe, but not broken.

Boosts are absolutely not "the problem". 'A problem', maybe, but not broken.

Shields are absolutely "the problem".

Out of curiosity. Were you playing MPQ before shield system was implemented?

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Arith wrote:

Riggy wrote:

I note that you've stopped talking about Sentry all together, which was the point of your terribly ill-advised OP. But what you're missing is that at least Hood has a counter. There is no counter to Sentry. Sentry doesn't even counter Sentry.

Ergo, to your OP, Hood isn't the problem, Sentry is..

Also, I rated down your quoted post (my first and only for the thread) for the insult. It's one thing as a forum newbie to come in and say "I'm right and you're wrong". It's something else to fling blatant insults about. I am a big enough person to note when I'm mistaken on something and I even rated Locked up for pointing it out to me.

Actually Hood was the point of the op, not sentry. I don't mind at all what you rate. I find you incredibly condesending and tbh if you seriously think your number of posts on forums for a match 3 game makes you the man whose opinion is the one right opinion by all means go with it.

I mentioned that I was rating a specific comment down b/c of an insult and b/c I didn't want anyone reading this thread to think I am trying to squash your right to an opinion by bombing your rep. I try to be especially conscientious on this b/c of my green name (people tend to load that with more value than it's worth). That said, you immediately followed up with yet more insults. In addition to credibility, integrity is something you should care about if you plan on trying to convince people of the validity of your opinion. Especially since you're on your own in this thread.

Arith wrote:

I'm worried Hood will become essential. Sentry will get nerfed, we know this so he really isn't an issue.

Your logic is flawed. Sentry is essential, you know he's going to be nerfed therefore he's not an issue. If The Hood becomes essential, why would the same pattern not hold true? However, no one else in this thread really believes that The Hood is in the same category as Sentry. So your point still falls flat.

Phaserhawk

Lets' assume you have a maxed Sentry in this as well, and you can only build 1 Hood, how do you spec him?

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Edited to add final poll resuilts.

Item - Votes - % of Total Votes
A.) 3/5/5. I am gonna Sentry Bomb and Intimidate as much as possible until Setry's nerfed - 23 - 24%
B.) 3/5/5. I never use Twin Pistols and just defaulted to this because there are better yellows - 11 - 12%
C.) 5/5/3. While 3/5/5 is great for full Sentry bombs its not needed and this is more versatile - 30 - 32%
D.) 5/5/3. I love Twin Pistols and don't niche build for Sentry, can't wait for 4* Thor combos - 30 - 32%

h4n1s

Phaserhawk wrote:

Lets' assume you have a maxed Sentry in this as well, and you can only build 1 Hood, how do you spec him?

by looking at the choices in the poll I assume builds 5/4/4, 4/5/4, 4/4/5 are not your favorite possibilities right?

Professa D

I chose A just because it reduces my anxiety during crucial hops where my sac tile gets destroyed or I accidentally trigger hulk's anger or something else stupid. Once I got Intimidation to 5 covers (which was just recently), I found my sentry bombing much less stressful. Plus I had yellow at 5 for the longest time and would only ever get it off during events where featured character (hood, cap) had yellow as strongest color and I ended up flush with it after Surgical Strike. But that was more situational than Sentrybombing for me. Normally I am using my yellow to get XF back to normal health so I can grind for longer.

But of course they just gave out double yellows so I am sitting on two of them in my queue praying that if they are going to nerf Sentry they'll at least have the decency to do it in the next 4-5 days?

Not holding my breath.

JamieMadrox

For me it's a combo of A and B. In the current meta, Intimidate is much more useful than Twin Pistols because of Sentry and there are some really good Yellow powers at the higher end of the power curve. That said, now that X-Force has an incredibly good black power, I'll be switching to 553 when (if) Sentry is nerfed, but only if it makes Intimidate useless.

hurcules

h4n1s wrote:

Phaserhawk wrote:

Lets' assume you have a maxed Sentry in this as well, and you can only build 1 Hood, how do you spec him?

by looking at the choices in the poll I assume builds 5/4/4, 4/5/4, 4/4/5 are not your favorite possibilities right?

First rule of Hood build: never build with less than 5 blue.

GrumpySmurf1002

Mine is 5/5/3 (that's how the cookie crumbled). I like him at 5/5/3, because I never use intimidation aside from Sentry, whereas Twin Pistols is invaluable as a 'doesn't end turn' skill.

I am building a 2nd for 3/5/5. If by the time it is built Sentry gets nerfed, then I'll just change course and have multiple 5/5/3s. I can live with that.

Phaserhawk

I have been running Sentry without Hood to try this theory and not seeing much difference or really any in terms of speed. Hood is just good defense but he's mostly not needed for Sentry bombs. Where he does help is if you get a bad board and you finally get all the required AP, because the game went longer the AI has more AP and can hurt your board WR tiles and Sac tile, thus Hood's intimidation is nice as not to give them another turn. FYI venom purple does samething as Hood intimidation

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hurcules wrote:

First rule of Hood build: never build with less than 5 blue.

No, it should go:

First rule of build club: don't talk about build club.
Second rule of build club: DON'T TALK ABOUT BUILD CLUB!
Third rule of build club: never build with less than 5 blue.
Fourth rule of build club: if you have a you must fight with your .

Nellyson

dragma wrote:

hurcules wrote:

First rule of Hood build: never build with less than 5 blue.

No, it should go:

First rule of build club: don't talk about build club.
Second rule of build club: DON'T TALK ABOUT BUILD CLUB!
Third rule of build club: never build with less than 5 blue.
Fourth rule of build club: if you have a you must fight with your .

So me having a 5/3/5 build is bad?? But I can use Twin Pistols AND Intimidation....hahahaha...for whatever reason, his has been ridiculous to come by!

Nellobee

My hood is currently 4/0/4, guess what color I have never seen?
I call it the "Usefulness not found" build.

cg2912

Nellyson wrote:

dragma wrote:

hurcules wrote:

First rule of Hood build: never build with less than 5 blue.

No, it should go:

First rule of build club: don't talk about build club.
Second rule of build club: DON'T TALK ABOUT BUILD CLUB!
Third rule of build club: never build with less than 5 blue.
Fourth rule of build club: if you have a you must fight with your .

So me having a 5/3/5 build is bad?? But I can use Twin Pistols AND Intimidation....hahahaha...for whatever reason, his has been ridiculous to come by!

Just this week I was finally able to go 5/5/3 after having a 5/3/5 for what seemed like forever.

HailMary

Nellyson wrote:

So me having a 5/3/5 build is bad?? But I can use Twin Pistols AND Intimidation....hahahaha...for whatever reason, his has been ridiculous to come by!

Yep, his blue seems extremely rare. I don't remember ever pulling a blue Hood from a token, whereas I've pulled multiples of his other two colors.

As for the poll, I went for 3/5/5. Intimate Sac Rupture is quite nice, but I've built my second Hood 5/5/3 for general future use, and in preparation for the Sentry nerf.

Unknown

4* Thor Combo? You'd pass over a Striking Distance for Twin Pistols? Are you mad?

Sentry Bombing is the current meta for PvP. Sad but true. If you want to buy your way to victory, its 6 6 5 , match 1 green 1 black 1 yellow and watch the world burn. This requires 3/5/5 Hood.

I agree that in all other situations 5/5/3 is a superior build, but no other situation matters until Sentry Hopping is no longer viable as a strategy. Unless you want to roster a PvE Hood as well and have both, niche building for Sentry is a boon to current PvP.

GrumpySmurf1002

Lerysh wrote:

4* Thor Combo? You'd pass over a Striking Distance for Twin Pistols? Are you mad?

Someone else I'm sure will pass on the link again, but there's infinite turn potential with Twin Pistols + FourThor Charge tiles.

Unknown

Riggy wrote:

Arith wrote:

Riggy wrote:

I note that you've stopped talking about Sentry all together, which was the point of your terribly ill-advised OP. But what you're missing is that at least Hood has a counter. There is no counter to Sentry. Sentry doesn't even counter Sentry.

Ergo, to your OP, Hood isn't the problem, Sentry is..

Also, I rated down your quoted post (my first and only for the thread) for the insult. It's one thing as a forum newbie to come in and say "I'm right and you're wrong". It's something else to fling blatant insults about. I am a big enough person to note when I'm mistaken on something and I even rated Locked up for pointing it out to me.

Actually Hood was the point of the op, not sentry. I don't mind at all what you rate. I find you incredibly condesending and tbh if you seriously think your number of posts on forums for a match 3 game makes you the man whose opinion is the one right opinion by all means go with it.

I mentioned that I was rating a specific comment down b/c of an insult and b/c I didn't want anyone reading this thread to think I am trying to squash your right to an opinion by bombing your rep. I try to be especially conscientious on this b/c of my green name (people tend to load that with more value than it's worth). That said, you immediately followed up with yet more insults. In addition to credibility, integrity is something you should care about if you plan on trying to convince people of the validity of your opinion. Especially since you're on your own in this thread.

Arith wrote:

I'm worried Hood will become essential. Sentry will get nerfed, we know this so he really isn't an issue.

Your logic is flawed. Sentry is essential, you know he's going to be nerfed therefore he's not an issue. If The Hood becomes essential, why would the same pattern not hold true? However, no one else in this thread really believes that The Hood is in the same category as Sentry. So your point still falls flat.

Jeez, firstly read the thread and then claim I'm on my own. Second, I never claimed they were in the same category. I don't see Sentry as a problem as we know he'll get fixed. That leaves Hood with abilities I believe will break the game at later stages with Thorita/xf/hood teams being the only teams we'll ever fight and these teams will demand you fight with the same team over and over. I might be wrong, this was never about absolutes but I firmly believe this game has the potential to be strategic (countering buffed Laken with Hulk for example) and I don't want another obw era in the game.
As for insulting you. You said my credibility was gone, I found that condesending of you. If you think my saying so is insulting you need to get out more.

GrimSkald

HailMary wrote:

Nellyson wrote:

So me having a 5/3/5 build is bad?? But I can use Twin Pistols AND Intimidation....hahahaha...for whatever reason, his has been ridiculous to come by!

Yep, his blue seems extremely rare. I don't remember ever pulling a blue Hood from a token, whereas I've pulled multiples of his other two colors.

As for the poll, I went for 3/5/5. Intimate Sac Rupture is quite nice, but I've built my second Hood 5/5/3 for general future use, and in preparation for the Sentry nerf.

Actually, I had a 2/5/3 Hood for the longest time. It was weird. Honestly, the Hood is a great character for his Blue alone.

My Hood went to 2/5/5 after the PVP in October with him, now he's 4/5/4 - I'll respec him to 5/5/3 after the next yellow I get.

user311

Twin Pistols is good but its too expensive to rely on. I might get to use it once a day. In those cases, I tend to not mind the end turn if its going to get me a better net AP than just match-3. I would build 5/5/3 if not for Sentry.