I am going to champion Star-Lord o_O; Wait, maybe not!

Cousin Simpson
Cousin Simpson Posts: 1,086 Chairperson of the Boards
edited October 2016 in Roster and Level Help
1. I played against a championed SL, and he was pretty disruptive! Might have to do with not targeting him first because of his terrible forum reputation, but I can envision a few useful lineups with him.
2. I have 3 unchampioned 4*s with 13 covers: Fury, SL, and XFDP. I already have two Fury covers in my queue, so he's the immediate ISO priority. After that, I'm probably going to be getting multiple Star-Lord covers (both Gamora and R&G are 181) ahead of XFDPs.
3. Being able to re-spec him would be good when his DDQ comes around again.
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  • OneLastGambit
    OneLastGambit Posts: 1,963 Chairperson of the Boards
    I like him. Pair him with switch and gg(if you have him
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2016
    I know xfdp is very useful. if I had the iso, SL would definitely be on my list. right behind kp, x23, nova, and carnage. somewhere in the fury/antman/ghost rider group.

    edit: after further thought, behind the fury/antman/GR group. maybe in the falcap area
  • Cousin Simpson
    Cousin Simpson Posts: 1,086 Chairperson of the Boards
    aesthetocyst wrote:
    "Plays well with ....
      Ares Dark Avengers ** Ant-Man Scott Lang **** Beast Classic *** Black Panther T'Challa *** Black Widow Grey Suit *** Black Widow Modern * Black Widow Original ** Blade Daywalker *** Bullseye Dark Avengers Hawkeye ** Bullseye Classic *** Steve Rogers Captain America ** Steve Rogers Super Soldier *** Captain Marvel Modern *** Captain Marvel Ms. Marvel ** Carnage Cletus Kassady **** Colossus Classic *** Cyclops Uncanny X-Men *** Cyclops Classic **** Daken Classic *** Daken Dark Avengers Wolverine ** Daredevil Classic *** Deadpool It's Me, Deadpool! *** Deadpool X-Force **** Devil Dinosaur Gigantic Reptile **** Doctor Doom Classic *** Doctor Octopus Otto Octavius *** Drax The Destroyer **** Elektra Unkillable **** Sam Wilson Falcon *** Gamora Guardians of the Galaxy *** Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze **** Green Goblin Norman Osborn ***** Hawkeye Classic * Hawkeye Modern ** Hood, The Classic *** Howard the Duck A Duck **** Hulk, The Indestructible *** Hulk, The Totally Awesome **** Human Torch Classic *** Human Torch Johnny Storm ** Iceman All New X-Men **** Invisible Woman Classic **** Iron Fist Immortal Weapon *** Iron Man Mark XLVI ***** Iron Man Model 35 * Iron Man Model 40 *** Iron Man Hulkbuster **** Jean Grey All New X-Men **** Jean Grey Phoenix ***** Juggernaut Classic * Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel *** Kingpin Wilson Fisk **** Loki Dark Reign *** Luke Cage Hero For Hire *** Magneto Classic *** Magneto Marvel NOW! ** Miles Morales Spider-Man **** Moonstone Dark Avengers Ms. Marvel ** Mr. Fantastic Reed Richards **** Mystique Raven Darkholme *** Nick Fury Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. **** Nova Sam Alexander **** Psylocke Classic *** Professor X Charles Xavier **** Punisher, The Dark Reign *** Punisher, The MAX **** Quake Daisy Johnson **** Quicksilver Pietro Maximoff *** Ragnarok Dark Avengers Thor *** Red Hulk Thunderbolt Ross **** Rocket & Groot Most Wanted *** Sam Wilson Captain America **** Scarlet Witch Wanda Maximoff *** Sentry Dark Avengers *** She-Hulk Modern *** Silver Surfer Skyrider ***** Spider-Gwen Gwen Stacy **** Spider-Man Bag-Man ** Spider-Man Back in Black ***** Spider-Man Classic *** Spider-Man Original * Squirrel Girl Unbeatable *** Star-Lord Legendary Outlaw **** Steve Rogers First Avenger ***** Storm Classic ** Storm Modern * Storm Mohawk *** The Thing Classic **** Thor Goddess of Thunder **** Thor Marvel NOW! ** Thor Modern *** Venom Dark Avengers Spider-Man * Venom Eddie Brock **** Vision Android Avenger *** Winter Soldier Bucky Barnes **** Wolverine Astonishing X-Men ** Wolverine Old Man Logan ***** Wolverine Patch *** Wolverine X-Force **** X-23 All-New Wolverine **** Yelena Belova Dark Avengers Widow * .. "
    .

    Well that settles it! He's definitely my next priority!
  • Jarvind
    Jarvind Posts: 1,684 Chairperson of the Boards
    Star Lord suffers from the forum's "doesn't have an ability that just instantly kills everything, so he sucks" syndrome. Both of his countdowns do respectable damage, and purple does some AOE at 5 covers. Admittedly his yellow sucks and is only worth using if you don't have another yellow user on your team, so it defaults to 3 covers.

    He's not top notch, but he's not nearly as bad as he's made out to be.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    Jarvind wrote:
    Star Lord suffers from the forum's "doesn't have an ability that just instantly kills everything, so he sucks" syndrome. Both of his countdowns do respectable damage, and purple does some AOE at 5 covers. Admittedly his yellow sucks and is only worth using if you don't have another yellow user on your team, so it defaults to 3 covers.

    He's not top notch, but he's not nearly as bad as he's made out to be.
    you might be selling his yellow short. at 4 covers it reduces r/blue/y/g powers by 2 instead of 1. with any cheap abilities, this gets pretty strong. see daken, nova, cyke, torch, carnage (yikes!), GR... that's enough for me to run him at 4 yellow (and I'm considering 5, but just haven't had the 5th come in yet to make that decision - adds purple for fist/rulk/kk/jean/loki/etc). I don't use him a ton and he'll remain at 145 for me for a while, but when essential, I like playing him.
  • mpqr7
    mpqr7 Posts: 2,642 Chairperson of the Boards
    I will be championing him soon myself, especially because I'll be winning three of his covers through daily logins, and I've already championed most of the very good 4*s, so I'm ready to move onto the next tier.
  • Stax the Foyer
    Stax the Foyer Posts: 941 Critical Contributor
    aesthetocyst wrote:
    "Plays well with ....
      Star-Lord Legendary Outlaw ****

    .

    And so often. His bedroom looks like a Jackson Pollack painting when the blacklight's on.
  • Of_Insidious_Mists
    Of_Insidious_Mists Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    When boosted I use him in pvp plenty, now that IM40's yellow has revamped use him a bit less, but with Iceman doing stun punch stun, for 12 blue ap depending on who you punch and if iceman is boosted you can neutilize the opponents team with his yellow out and 12 blue ap. I think he's very underrated. I have him close to 200, I have a couple others on my max out and champ first list, like x23,xfdp,KP,PX, cyke when I get the couple covers I'm missing for him but than I'd consider Starlord as soon as any other for sure.
  • Melevorn
    Melevorn Posts: 137 Tile Toppler
    Cousin Simpson wrote:
    2. I have 3 unchampioned 4*s with 13 covers: Fury, SL, and XFDP. I already have two Fury covers in my queue, so he's the immediate ISO priority. After that, I'm probably going to be getting multiple Star-Lord covers (both Gamora and R&G are 181) ahead of XFDPs.
    You're right that Star-Lord isn't that bad - but XFDP is a tier above him. Star-Lord and Fury might tie for priority, but get your XFDP champed asap!
  • Born2DieNPvP
    Born2DieNPvP Posts: 163
    Jarvind wrote:
    Star Lord suffers from the forum's "doesn't have an ability that just instantly kills everything, so he sucks" syndrome.

    This all day long. This forum is incredibly helpful but I learned a long time ago not to judge a character until I've actually had a chance to use them myself. Case in point 3* Bullseye is one of the funnest clutch characters in the game but you wouldn't know it by casually browsing the forum.
  • Chrono_Tata
    Chrono_Tata Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    Jarvind wrote:
    Star Lord suffers from the forum's "doesn't have an ability that just instantly kills everything, so he sucks" syndrome. Both of his countdowns do respectable damage, and purple does some AOE at 5 covers. Admittedly his yellow sucks and is only worth using if you don't have another yellow user on your team, so it defaults to 3 covers.

    He's not top notch, but he's not nearly as bad as he's made out to be.
    More like "all his abilities depend on randomly placed countdown tiles so he sucks". Yeah, he's not terrible but he's very unreliable, especially in PvP. If you manage to keep his CDs alive, he's pretty good, or they could just get destroyed by errant match-4 or cascades, and you end up wasting a lot of AP.
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Star-lord was one of the first fourstars I championed. Haven't regretted it. He's dang fun to play. In the Gauntlet I have been running Star-lord, Nova and Iceman for some of the trickier nodes. Works like a charm...
  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 562 Critical Contributor
    The lack of covers and ISO make me sad, because I would champ him too. He was fun to play alongside Gamora and CStorm when he was required in The Hunt a little while back.

    There are a few characters that are lower tier that I enjoy playing quite a bit and have a lot of success playing. Star-Lord is one of those for sure. I really enjoy Ant-Man too. Some day...
  • Fratriarch
    Fratriarch Posts: 27 Just Dropped In
    aesthetocyst wrote:
    "Plays well with ....
      Ares Dark Avengers ** Ant-Man Scott Lang **** Beast Classic *** Black Panther T'Challa *** Black Widow Grey Suit *** Black Widow Modern * Black Widow Original ** Blade Daywalker *** Bullseye Dark Avengers Hawkeye ** Bullseye Classic *** Steve Rogers Captain America ** Steve Rogers Super Soldier *** Captain Marvel Modern *** Captain Marvel Ms. Marvel ** Carnage Cletus Kassady **** Colossus Classic *** Cyclops Uncanny X-Men *** Cyclops Classic **** Daken Classic *** Daken Dark Avengers Wolverine ** Daredevil Classic *** Deadpool It's Me, Deadpool! *** Deadpool X-Force **** Devil Dinosaur Gigantic Reptile **** Doctor Doom Classic *** Doctor Octopus Otto Octavius ***
    Drax The Destroyer ****
    Elektra Unkillable ****
    Sam Wilson Falcon ***
    Gamora Guardians of the Galaxy ***
    Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze ****
    Green Goblin Norman Osborn *****
    Hawkeye Classic *
    Hawkeye Modern **
    Hood, The Classic ***
    Howard the Duck A Duck ****
    Hulk, The Indestructible ***
    Hulk, The Totally Awesome ****
    Human Torch Classic ***
    Human Torch Johnny Storm **
    Iceman All New X-Men ****
    Invisible Woman Classic ****
    Iron Fist Immortal Weapon ***
    Iron Man Mark XLVI *****
    Iron Man Model 35 *
    Iron Man Model 40 ***
    Iron Man Hulkbuster ****
    Jean Grey All New X-Men ****
    Jean Grey Phoenix *****
    Juggernaut Classic *
    Kamala Khan Ms. Marvel ***
    Kingpin Wilson Fisk ****
    Loki Dark Reign ***
    Luke Cage Hero For Hire ***
    Magneto Classic ***
    Magneto Marvel NOW! **
    Miles Morales Spider-Man ****
    Moonstone Dark Avengers Ms. Marvel **
    Mr. Fantastic Reed Richards ****
    Mystique Raven Darkholme ***
    Nick Fury Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. ****
    Nova Sam Alexander ****
    Psylocke Classic ***
    Professor X Charles Xavier ****
    Punisher, The Dark Reign ***
    Punisher, The MAX ****
    Quake Daisy Johnson ****
    Quicksilver Pietro Maximoff ***
    Ragnarok Dark Avengers Thor ***
    Red Hulk Thunderbolt Ross ****
    Rocket & Groot Most Wanted ***
    Sam wilson Captain America ****
    Scarlet Witch Wanda Maximoff ***
    Sentry Dark Avengers ***
    She-Hulk Modern ***
    Silver Surfer Skyrider *****
    Spider-Gwen Gwen Stacy ****
    Spider-Man Bag-Man **
    Spider-Man Back in Black *****
    Spider-Man Classic ***
    Spider-Man Original *
    Squirrel Girl Unbeatable ***
    Star-Lord Legendary Outlaw ****
    Steve Rogers First Avenger *****
    Storm Classic **
    Storm Modern *
    Storm Mohawk ***
    The Thing Classic ****
    Thor Goddess of Thunder ****
    Thor Marvel NOW! **
    Thor Modern ***
    Venom Dark Avengers Spider-Man *
    Venom Eddie Brock ****
    Vision Android Avenger ***
    Winter Soldier Bucky Barnes ****
    Wolverine Astonishing X-Men **
    Wolverine Old Man Logan *****
    Wolverine Patch ***
    Wolverine X-Force ****
    X-23 All-New Wolverine ****
    Yelena Belova Dark Avengers Widow * .. "

    .

    That oughta cover who pairs well with star-lord, with bold being extremely useful and italic being useless.
  • OneLastGambit
    OneLastGambit Posts: 1,963 Chairperson of the Boards
    Chrono_Tata wrote:
    Jarvind wrote:
    Star Lord suffers from the forum's "doesn't have an ability that just instantly kills everything, so he sucks" syndrome. Both of his countdowns do respectable damage, and purple does some AOE at 5 covers. Admittedly his yellow sucks and is only worth using if you don't have another yellow user on your team, so it defaults to 3 covers.

    He's not top notch, but he's not nearly as bad as he's made out to be.
    More like "all his abilities depend on randomly placed countdown tiles so he sucks". Yeah, he's not terrible but he's very unreliable, especially in PvP. If you manage to keep his CDs alive, he's pretty good, or they could just get destroyed by errant match-4 or cascades, and you end up wasting a lot of AP.

    His pink is targeted placement and can remove ANY tile in the game making it very useful.

    Red is randomly placed and a shame that it's turns increase at 5 covers... Though switch star Lord and falcap takes 3 characters with little value alone and makes them a pretty good team
  • Piro_plock
    Piro_plock Posts: 287 Mover and Shaker
    Fratriarch wrote:
    That oughta cover who pairs well with star-lord, with bold being extremely useful and italic being useless.
    Seems like you didn't get the joke.
  • MPQ_Daywalker
    MPQ_Daywalker Posts: 384 Mover and Shaker
    Cousin Simpson wrote:
    I already have two Fury covers in my queue, so he's the immediate ISO priority. After that, I'm probably going to be getting multiple Star-Lord covers (both Gamora and R&G are 181) ahead of XFDPs.
    This is the way I've been handling my 4* championing as well. It seems silly to have champion 3*s generating 4* covers and then wasting those covers because the 4* isn't championed, so I build that into who I'm going to focus on next.

    Star Lord isn't considered great for PVP because of his countdown tiles, but I'm certain you will make a lot of use of him in PVE.

    In the post-champion/3* nerf world, I find that any championed 4* character (with the exception of TA Hulk) is loads better than a 3*. My championed 4* Thor and Nick Fury aren't scary in PVP to 4* players, but they're very effective against 3* teams, meaning I'm still able to hit 1000 way, way easier than when I only had maxed 3*s.
  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
    Jarvind wrote:
    He's not top notch, but he's not nearly as bad as he's made out to be.

    I suppose that's the issue though.
    When ISO is at such a premium, why spend it on an okay character when you could be levelling up Rulk, Hulkbuster, XFDP, Teen Jean, Iceman or Cyclops? And even of those guys aren't at 13 covers yet, you're more advised to hold onto the ISO to max them out when you *do* get enough covers.

    If ISO was more freely available, like it was when I was still in 3* land (relatively speaking, anyway), I'd level up my Star Lord much quicker. But needing to save up 200,000+ ISO for a single character...I need to make sure I dump it on the right one.
  • Cousin Simpson
    Cousin Simpson Posts: 1,086 Chairperson of the Boards
    Melevorn wrote:
    Cousin Simpson wrote:
    2. I have 3 unchampioned 4*s with 13 covers: Fury, SL, and XFDP. I already have two Fury covers in my queue, so he's the immediate ISO priority. After that, I'm probably going to be getting multiple Star-Lord covers (both Gamora and R&G are 181) ahead of XFDPs.
    You're right that Star-Lord isn't that bad - but XFDP is a tier above him. Star-Lord and Fury might tie for priority, but get your XFDP champed asap!

    Oh, I've played with XFDP a fair bit, esp. when he was buffed, and he's certainly on the shortlist of maxing priorities. I'm basing my championing decisions, though, on what covers I have in queue, and I expect I'll have extra SL covers sooner than I'll get XFDP. I also focus mainly on PVE, so the gap between the two of them isn't quite so large as it would be in PVP.
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    I am one of the few who use Cho regularly, and of course.. Starlord. I plan on champing them both. There are no un-usable chars, sure a couple abilities need work, but boosted SL can ruin your day... pair with IM40 and he is a PVE monster.

    Good call on champing, plus, that means not a single SL cover will go to waste for you, more iso/cp/hp/tokens!

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