Tromb2ch2 wrote: I fell like if his ability countdown tile gets matched or removed he should take a bunch of damage and be stunned for the foreseeable future...
himatako wrote: After using him in his event, he sucks so bad. What's worse is that his animations are so cool but after you use it, nothing happens and you just place CD tiles. It's just... so anti-climatic? They really need to give him immediate effects to all of his powers. I mean, it's hard to imagine him going all out with gatling gun like that resulting in a few CD tiles being placed on the board lol.
Alkyoneus wrote: OK so I championed him yesterday. I've been playing around with him in Venom and EOTS. i've tried different builds, and I think he can be pretty versatile. Green is definitely the highlight for him, Boosted it does 2300 x 3 CD tiles, each taking out 6 tiles (5 tiles plus the CD resolving) after 1 turn. It's caused some pretty significant cascades. Red at 5 for attack tiles or blue at 5 for a 12k nuke are both usable, it just depends on what you want to bring him for. Overall I've already enjoyed using him quite a lot. I'm transitioning into 5 star land, and I'm almost ready to field a usable Green Goblin - they pair perfectly together and have full rainbow active abilities. GG yellow will complement WM green nicely, I feel, plus the incredible match damage from GG on the cascades. I'm excited.
Tiger Wong wrote: Sounds like operator error to me.
notamutant wrote: Disagree strongly with all the recent love. Just maxed him, been using him boosted in Venom Bomb. He still stinks boosted.
Vhailorx wrote: notamutant wrote: Disagree strongly with all the recent love. Just maxed him, been using him boosted in Venom Bomb. He still stinks boosted. He doesn't really play like anyone else, so i can see why people find him refreshing and fun. But i agree with your topline evaluation. He just isnt that good. He takes too much time to really get going (both red and blue take turns to resolve, and blue requires 4 matches). In that way he is like antman. He has support uses as a character than can make lots of CD cheaply (extra useful now with someone like carol), and is a drcently cheap boardshaker. But he us definitely in the big middle tier of 4*s and mayve even towards the bottom of that tier.
notamutant wrote: Vhailorx wrote: notamutant wrote: Disagree strongly with all the recent love. Just maxed him, been using him boosted in Venom Bomb. He still stinks boosted. He doesn't really play like anyone else, so i can see why people find him refreshing and fun. But i agree with your topline evaluation. He just isnt that good. He takes too much time to really get going (both red and blue take turns to resolve, and blue requires 4 matches). In that way he is like antman. He has support uses as a character than can make lots of CD cheaply (extra useful now with someone like carol), and is a drcently cheap boardshaker. But he us definitely in the big middle tier of 4*s and mayve even towards the bottom of that tier. I think a lot of people that are saying they like him don't have the option of 30 other maxed 4 stars to compare him to. Does his blue deal a lot of damage? Yes. But his red is useless without his green maxed, and his red is useless at anything but 5 covers, so you have to make blue useless at 3 covers to make his red useful. And giving up the high guaranteed damage of blue is a bad idea, meaning in most cases, you have to run him at 3/5/5. So if you run him at 3 red, his red is useless. His green is about 9k damage when he is boosted for 8 AP, after a turn waiting assuming all CDs resolve. Not bad damage, but there are better options for green usually. That pretty much leaves him as a blue outlet only. There aren't that many good damaging blues though, but in Venom Bomb, Thor was also boosted. Her blue was essential to power up her red, so it basically made WM completely useless in this event. I don't think he is close to Wasp or Elektra tier bad, but he certainly isn't in the upper half.
notamutant wrote: I think a lot of people that are saying they like him don't have the option of 30 other maxed 4 stars to compare him to. Does his blue deal a lot of damage? Yes. But his red is useless without his green maxed, and his red is useless at anything but 5 covers, so you have to make blue useless at 3 covers to make his red useful. And giving up the high guaranteed damage of blue is a bad idea, meaning in most cases, you have to run him at 3/5/5. So if you run him at 3 red, his red is useless. His green is about 9k damage when he is boosted for 8 AP, after a turn waiting assuming all CDs resolve. Not bad damage, but there are better options for green usually. That pretty much leaves him as a blue outlet only. There aren't that many good damaging blues though, but in Venom Bomb, Thor was also boosted. Her blue was essential to power up her red, so it basically made WM completely useless in this event. I don't think he is close to Wasp or Elektra tier bad, but he certainly isn't in the upper half.