Newish player, so many 3*

EleganceFlawed
EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
edited May 2016 in Roster and Level Help
**Updated 5.28.16**

I have 39 Roster slots and I'm trying not to spend more money on this game.

Roster:
4*
70 Howard the Duck - purple skill
70 Thor GoT - yellow skill
70 Venom Eddie Brock - green skill
70 Winter Soldier - red skill
70 Classic Cyclops - blue skill

3*
53 Sam Wilson 2/1/2
43 Kamala Khan 1/0/3
43 Colossus Classic 0/1/2
43 Wolverine Patch 1/0/2
40 Gamora 1/0/3
40 Captain Marvel 1/1/2
40 Hulk Indestructible - 2/1/0
40 Bullseye Classic - 0/2/0
40 Cyclops Uncanny - 0/0/2
40 Quicksilver 0/2/1
40 Rocket and Groot - 0/2/0
40 Scarlet Witch - 2/0/0
40 Daken 1/1/1
40 Beast 1/1/0
40 GSBW - 1/1/0
40 Iron Fist - 0/1/1
40 Loki 1/0/1
40 Daredevil - purple skill
40 Deadpool - black skill
40 Doctor Doom - purple skill
40 Iron Man model 40 - blue skill
40 Black Panther - blue skill
40 She-Hulk - green skill
40 Steve Rogers - blue skill
40 The Hood - yellow skill
40 The Punisher - black skill
40 Modern Thor - green skill

2*
94 CStorm 4/5/4
94 Hawkeye Modern 5/5/3
85 MNThor 5/5/3
70 OBW 2/4/4
33 Ares 4/1/1
31 MNMags - 1/2/2

1*
35 Juggernaut 5/5

Thanks in advance,
-EF
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Comments

  • Calnexin
    Calnexin Posts: 1,078 Chairperson of the Boards
    On the 1* tier, I recommend dropping everyone, but picking up Juggernaut for the Deadpool Daily. IM35 can probably do the job, but not as quickly.

    2* tier, pick a core team of three, then add 1-2 more. Again, for the Deadpool Daily. You want a strong team to carry you through those two nodes, because the rewards are worth the roster slots. I'd personally recommend keeping Storm, Thor, and OBW. That team can complete the Enchilada as well, most of the time.

    Keep all your 3*'s, mainly for essential nodes and the Daily. Really you need to play around with them before you decide what works best. There are several rankings on this board if you want to go there, but your own experience will be your best guide. You might happen upon a synergistic team that works well in most situations.

    4* - do not level. If you happen upon any more covers, claim them but let the character sit. Adding levels will increase your scaling, making PvE harder. Wait until you have a few 3* championed before you spend any Iso on 4* characters.

    For the moment - focus on leveling up your 2* roster and try to keep slots open for as many 3* as you can. Use the Daily for covers and Iso, and climb as high as you're able in PvE. Dabble in PvP but don't expect to hit big payouts from it until your 3* roster is solid. You're also in dangerous scaling territory - if you happen to pull a 5*, it will increase your scaling beyond what you're capable of handling at the moment. So don't cash in any CP or legendary tokens until you have a comfortable 3* roster (I recommend 4-7 characters at lv 140 or above before you start considering 4* character growth).
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    Calnexin wrote:
    I'd personally recommend keeping Storm, Thor, and OBW. That team can complete the Enchilada as well, most of the time.
    I agree here. and to these I'd at least add ares and mnmags. the others are very optional long-term. I wouldn't add any more iso into anyone you won't be championing and keeping long-term. hawk, steve and marvel are not completely useless and have some utility but are very average (and below average) and they just don't compare well with the 5 that are mentioned. others you may want to consider adding include daken and axwolverine as well. in 2* play those were important to me. other than that, cal summed it up well.
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    This was very helpful and thorough, thank you!

    I'll admit, I have a personal soft spot for Hawkeye and Steve so I don't really want to give them up. They've been doing fairly well in DPD with Storm while OBW was low level. Today I used Storm/OBW/Hawkeye and made it.

    I can see why Thor is good, I just sold him off initially because I just don't like him as a character. I know that really doesn't matter if I'm trying to be successful, but initially I was just killing time with this game.

    To clear space, is 1* Iron Man strong enough alone at 35 for DPD or do I need to level him up further?

    Also, any tips for teams for Dat Required Character?

    Thanks again,
    -EF
  • DeNappa
    DeNappa Posts: 1,397 Chairperson of the Boards
    Dat required node: I think that depends on both the required char and the opponents. If the required character is someone who you have built somewhat already, you can try to form a good team around them. Otherwise it's probably dead weight and your two support characters will essentially do the fighting. Judging from your opening post, your required 3* are not very strong right now and you need your 2*s to win the match. So, as Calnexin already mentioned: improve your 2* team.

    For the required node, as well as nodes 2 and 3 in the '1* path', Ares and Daken are very useful in my opinion. Together they can dish out damage like crazy:
    • You're matching green for Ares' green power, but this will also make Daken drop strike tiles for increased damage.
    • The strikes will increase damage done by Daken's blue significantly
    • Daken's blue hurts, and adds more green tiles to the board
    • Ares green does a lot of damage and you suit it to your damage needs (fire immediately or save up green for one big shot when it's required)
    • Ares yellow is very powerful and can be used as a big finisher (ideally not for the last opponent though, because you want to wait for his countdown to heal back)
    • Ares red damages the whole team.
    My 2* team recommendation to win the 3* cover: MnMags (3/5/5), OBW (3/5/5), CStorm (5/5/3):
    • OBW's steals purple/blue and does extra damage. Don't fire her powers, except when in a pinch (really need the health burst or extended countdown, or stop AI from firing some nuke by stealing his AP).
    • Magneto's purple generates blue and red, causing damage, cascades and criticals if you place the tiles tactically.
    • Storm can gather AP with her green, and also stun the AI non-goons, so you can place Magneto's red bomb without chance of it being matched (at 5 covers it's a 1-turn countdown. Also useful: it generates AP too).
    (A warning might be necessary here: when they changed the DDQ wave nodes a while ago to a more random style featuring more 'movers', I noticed this 2* team wasn't a guaranteed win any longer. So you might be better off with the Thor recommendation given above. I have since replaced OBW with IM40, but that's not an option for you yet)

    If you like Hawkeye, you'll like him even more with a tile placer like Magneto because you can use Mags to create match-5s that trigger HAwkeye's passive. icon_mrgreen.gif
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    So I guess I'll just keep playing until I get those covers? I sold them off before because they didn't work well in the events and I hadn't really been playing DPD.

    When I get him, Magneto + Hawkeye with required character then?

    (That is the weird white costume Magneto, right?)
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    lol yeah. mnmags is the weird white costume one. they work well together. keep those purple cds on the board after you make a crit with mags and they do a lot of damage.
  • Sambuca
    Sambuca Posts: 34 Just Dropped In
    I still use the OBW/Thor/Storm trio for the Big Enchilada, but I use OBW/Ares/Storm for the Under the Sea and Third Time's the Charm nodes. Ares is just faster than Thor offensively, but you want Thor's AP generation for wave nodes.

    One note about OBW. Her Espionage passive is great, but she needs to be the one tanking that color, so when you level her up more fully, make sure that she is at the same level or higher than your Storm so that it triggers successfully.

    After you've got your solid 2* team, you might want to keep in mind which 2* characters give 3* covers when championed.
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    Sambuca wrote:
    I still use the OBW/Thor/Storm trio for the Big Enchilada, but I use OBW/Ares/Storm for the Under the Sea and Third Time's the Charm nodes. Ares is just faster than Thor offensively, but you want Thor's AP generation for wave nodes.

    One note about OBW. Her Espionage passive is great, but she needs to be the one tanking that color, so when you level her up more fully, make sure that she is at the same level or higher than your Storm so that it triggers successfully.

    After you've got your solid 2* team, you might want to keep in mind which 2* characters give 3* covers when championed.

    Thank you, this makes sense. icon_e_smile.gif

    I admit I don't know what you mean about 3*s and championing...

    Also, does IM35 need to be max level to handle the first node alone? I have him at level 35 but I'd like to make room/get iso by selling 1* BW and Hawkeye if I don't need them.
  • Sambuca
    Sambuca Posts: 34 Just Dropped In
    Sambuca wrote:
    I still use the OBW/Thor/Storm trio for the Big Enchilada, but I use OBW/Ares/Storm for the Under the Sea and Third Time's the Charm nodes. Ares is just faster than Thor offensively, but you want Thor's AP generation for wave nodes.

    One note about OBW. Her Espionage passive is great, but she needs to be the one tanking that color, so when you level her up more fully, make sure that she is at the same level or higher than your Storm so that it triggers successfully.

    After you've got your solid 2* team, you might want to keep in mind which 2* characters give 3* covers when championed.

    Thank you, this makes sense. icon_e_smile.gif

    I admit I don't know what you mean about 3*s and championing...

    Also, does IM35 need to be max level to handle the first node alone? I have him at level 35 but I'd like to make room/get iso by selling 1* BW and Hawkeye if I don't need them.
    For 2* characters and above at maximum level, you can pay a one-time ISO fee to "champion" them. This allows you to respec their covers at will and raises their max level so that any additional covers you get for them will raise their level by one. Not only that, but for each champion level, you will get a reward. It's mainly ISO, but at certain levels it's HP or command points or specific covers depending on the character.

    For instance, OBW will give you a 3* Black Widow cover at levels 99, 115, and 127! Pretty neat, huh?

    I don't think your IM35 *needs* to be at max level to beat the 1* DDQ node but I use a max level 40 Juggernaut (his abilities are cheaper) so I'm not sure what level you can get away with for IM35.
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    Is there a thread here about championing?
  • BlackSheep101
    BlackSheep101 Posts: 2,025 Chairperson of the Boards
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    I really don't want to keep spending money on this game, but I'm at a full 34 roster and have The Hood, Doctor Doom, and fingers crossed Bucky Barnes incoming. Should I just bite the bullet and buy hp for more slots or can I pare down my 3* collection?

    I do have Ares and MNMags in my roster now.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    if you want to stick to not spending more money, the following characters are completely optional IMO:

    Roster:
    4*
    70 Howard the Duck - purple skill

    3*
    50 Doc Otto 0/2/0
    43 Colossus Classic 0/1/1
    40 Spiderman Classic 0/1/1
    40 Daredevil - purple skill

    2*
    35 Steve Rogers 4/1/2
    25 Captain Marvel Ms Marvel 2/2/2

    1* (jugs is all that's needed long-term here)
    35 Iron Man 5/3/5
    35 BW Modern 5/5
    25 Hawkeye Classic 5/5

    now, all that said, my guess is you're currently using some of those I've listed. so don't sell those, but not having any of the one's I've listed isn't going to make or break anything at the level you're at. you'll miss their essential nodes in pve and have to carry around the loaner in pvp, which matters at the top of the game, but much less lower down. it all depends on your $ situation, but rostering all the characters made things much less stressful for me early on.
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    TxMoose wrote:
    if you want to stick to not spending more money, the following characters are completely optional IMO:

    Roster:
    4*
    70 Howard the Duck - purple skill

    3*
    50 Doc Otto 0/2/0
    43 Colossus Classic 0/1/1
    40 Spiderman Classic 0/1/1
    40 Daredevil - purple skill

    2*
    35 Steve Rogers 4/1/2
    25 Captain Marvel Ms Marvel 2/2/2

    1* (jugs is all that's needed long-term here)
    35 Iron Man 5/3/5
    35 BW Modern 5/5
    25 Hawkeye Classic 5/5

    now, all that said, my guess is you're currently using some of those I've listed. so don't sell those, but not having any of the one's I've listed isn't going to make or break anything at the level you're at. you'll miss their essential nodes in pve and have to carry around the loaner in pvp, which matters at the top of the game, but much less lower down. it all depends on your $ situation, but rostering all the characters made things much less stressful for me early on.


    I did sell the two 1*s already, I don't have Juggs so I'm using IM35 for DPD.

    Howard has actually been a bit of a tank for me for the current event, I've been using CapMarvel/CStorm/Howard to beat the more difficult nodes.

    Is it worth keeping 2* Steve around to Champion to get 3* covers for my other Steve?

    And by rostering all the characters do you mean saving all of them?
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    I did sell the two 1*s already, I don't have Juggs so I'm using IM35 for DPD.
    perfect. you can survive with IM35 until you decide you'd prefer jugs. took me a while.
    Is it worth keeping 2* Steve around to Champion to get 3* covers for my other Steve?

    And by rostering all the characters do you mean saving all of them?
    I'm not sure on 2* steve. he has some goon utility among the 2*s but overall does so little damage. so anything other than goon nodes, he's nearly useless. if you had him higher level I'd say you might as well champ him. if you didn't have any iso in him, I'd say skip him. not sure what the 'best' thing to do in your case is. fully covered on red/blue he isn't useless, just doesn't do much damage. and I'm not sure if 3* steve is worth putting resources (iso, slot) into a weaker 2* steve. i'll defer to others here, but if you have a strong preference for him, keep him.
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    For 2* Steve I might see how he gets boosted for the Civil War event and sell him later, as long as I have *A* Steve my fan side will be sated, I think, and I did get the 3*.

    Most people are saying to keep every 3* and I don't see how that's a) feasible or b) useful when they cost so much to level.

    It feels like as a non-pvp casual player I should invest in some that are good combos and a few extra that are favorites for me.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    keep in mind that most of the advice and recommendations on the forum are all based on our individual experiences and the assumption that other players want to play like them. there are so many different ways people can enjoy the game that sometimes advice is difficult. a super casual player who just wants to have some fun with their favorite marvel characters needs a completely different set of advice than one that wants to be as efficient and effective as possible at speeding through all the transitions to enter the 'meta' game asap.
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    This makes sense. I think I need to take all things into consideration, because I do want to succeed in events like this one where the prize is a cover I want.

    I also don't want to sell the best characters without realizing it because I hate their faces, lol.
  • Azoth658
    Azoth658 Posts: 348 Mover and Shaker
    For 2* Steve I might see how he gets boosted for the Civil War event and sell him later, as long as I have *A* Steve my fan side will be sated, I think, and I did get the 3*.

    Most people are saying to keep every 3* and I don't see how that's a) feasible or b) useful when they cost so much to level.

    It feels like as a non-pvp casual player I should invest in some that are good combos and a few extra that are favorites for me.

    ISO is going to seem like a challenge but once your team gets a little stronger then completing DDQ (Daily deadpool) will net you 3000 with ease every day. Just using this ISO on one 3* would take them to 166 in a little over a month if you had the covers. 3* Captain is a lot better than 2* because he returns AP when the countdown's end and his Blue countdown will leave a strong shield behind as well.

    I would suggest reading up on how to make the most of lightning rounds on PVP each week. with very little effort you can earn around 1000 ISO an hour.
  • EleganceFlawed
    EleganceFlawed Posts: 112 Tile Toppler
    I updated my roster...

    I have 3* 40 She Hulk (green skill), 3* 40 The Hood (yellow skill) and 2* 15 Human Torch (green skill) waiting to be recruited.

    Are they worth Recruiting?

    I have been using CStorm/MHawkeye/OBW for DPD along with IM35 until I get Juggy leveled.

    Everyone's been so helpful so far, I'm going to look into the PVP to start getting more ISO. icon_e_smile.gif

    Thanks,
    -EF