List of Champion Rewards from Video

XandorXerxes

Here's the list I pulled from watching the video. I may have typo'd something, if I did comment on it and I'll correct it. Standard caveat: actual rewards will potentially differ once feature is released.

2* Wolverine:

141: 500 ISO
142: 1000 ISO
143: Heroic Token
144: 100 HP

3* Captain America:

263: 250 HP
264: 2500 ISO
265: FalCap Blue
266: Legendary Token

4* Hulkbuster:

283: 50 HP
284: 1 CP
285: 2500 ISO
286: 1 CP
287: 50 HP
288: 1 CP
289: 2500 ISO
290: Legendary Token
291: 50 HP
292: 2 CP
293: 2500 ISO
294: 2 CP
295: 100 HP
296: 2 CP
297: 3000 ISO
298: 2 CP
299: 100 HP
300: Legendary Token
301: 3000 ISO
302: 2 CP
303: 100 HP
304: 2 CP
305: 3000 ISO
306: 2 CP
307: 100 HP
308: 2 CP
309: 3000 ISO
310: Legendary Token
311: ?? HP

332: 3 CP
333: 3500 ISO
334: 3 CP
335 100 HP

367: 500 HP
368: 5 CP
369: 15000 ISO
370: Legendary Token

5* Silver Surfer:

547: Legendary Token
548: 20,000 ISO
549: 25 CP
550: 5000 HP

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halirin

So what do we make of this? Looks like champ levels might be a little bit iso-negative relative to selling, since at least with hulkbuster you're getting iso every four levels in increasing amounts. So while the iso amount for the three star is more than 4x the iso from selling a cover, that's only at the top end.

Of course, that ignores all the other goodies in between the iso. Those will be nice. But it does look like the 2* rewards might be a little underwhelming. Presumably no legendaries in there.

OzarkBoatswain

Thanks. I think the MPQ wikia pages should have these once Champion mode is released.

mpqr7

The rewards sound great at all tiers. I'm appreciative. It's a great way to get a decent amount of hp, cp, tokens and iso without needing to do the endless grind of pve. I'll be sad when all my 2*s quickly max out! I may even need to start leveling up all the bad ones like moonstone and hawkeye to get more rewards! Well, we'll see how much ISO I have left over after leveling up my important 4*s (and elektra lol.. I have her at 10 covers already, so look out!!).

GrumpySmurf1002

So I took it and tried to predict the rest (my predictions in yellow), since there are clear patterns:



That totals to: 2675 HP, 96CP, 10 tokens, and 90k Iso. Should be close, give or take.

Unknown

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

So I took it and tried to predict the rest (my predictions in yellow), since there are clear patterns:

That totals to: 2675 HP, 96CP, 10 tokens, and 90k Iso. Should be close, give or take.

So to note: If literally all you care about is Iso, and only Iso,

You'd get 10 4* covers out of the Tokens, 4 more out of CP, and I guess if you're really desperate you acan buy tokens with the HP but I ain't going to do the math on that.

So you're going to get 104K Iso, and it'll cost you 100K in covers and presumable 5-10K to Champion them, and you got to get all 100 covers for that.

So if you're looking for 100% pure iso profit, probably not the best way to get it.

simonsez

Nice job. So, if we take these numbers, and assume that all tokens, cp and hp will be funneled back into covers to champion other characters, and factor in the 1000 ISO that will not be earned from selling the covers, each extra 4* cover will now be worth an extra 190 ISO, .13 tokens, 1.25 CP, and 35 HP. It's always nice to get something for nothing... except it's not really nothing, there's an up-front cost. And it's not like most of us get a ton of extra 4*s that we've been selling. These per-cover values aren't exactly game-changing, and I'm not sure at what point you'd feel as if your up-front cost has been recouped.

scottee

Plus...your heroes actually get stronger, which is, like, the whole point of this thing.

Thanks OP.

simonsez

scottee wrote:

Plus...your heroes actually get stronger, which is, like, the whole point of this thing.

Again, confining this to 4*, how many extra covers for a given character will most people ever get? Maybe 20? I don't think 20 extra levels on a 4* will be noticeable.

scottee

simonsez wrote:

scottee wrote:

Plus...your heroes actually get stronger, which is, like, the whole point of this thing.

Again, confining this to 4*, how many extra covers for a given character will most people ever get? Maybe 20? I don't think 20 extra levels on a 4* will be noticeable.

It's the same as people who underlevel their 3*. If you have the choice between fighting a Jeanbuster at level 270 or 280, you're going to skip the 280. It's not about the strength being noticeable, it's about the perceived strength.

And in the 2* and 3* champions, the levels will be enough to be noticeable.

simonsez

scottee wrote:

If you have the choice between fighting a Jeanbuster at level 270 or 280, you're going to skip the 280.

In theory yes, but in practice, you seldom have that choice. You're going to skip, skip, skip and hit the first 50 or 60 point target you find, regardless of whether it's a 280 or 270. You're not going to toss a high point lv280 target and keep skipping to find a lv270.

scottee

Also, when calculating total iso cost, people are missing that we're saving the huge amount of iso it would normally take to raise those levels. I know, most would never pay the iso for those levels, but you're still getting all those 3* levels for essentially 500 iso each.

scottee

simonsez wrote:

scottee wrote:

If you have the choice between fighting a Jeanbuster at level 270 or 280, you're going to skip the 280.

In theory yes, but in practice, you seldom have that choice. You're going to skip, skip, skip and hit the first 50 or 60 point target you find, regardless of whether it's a 280 or 270. You're not going to toss a high point lv280 target and keep skipping to find a lv270.

"Seldom" for one person yes. But the hoards don't queue you one at a time. Run around with some level 160 3*'s and see how long it takes you to put that last bit of iso in to get 166.

And I usually have tons of choice. No I don't take the first 50-60 points target I find. There's always plenty. And if someone has softcapped at 250, you can be sure they get preference. (after considering hero combo of course)

BlackSheep101

Also: free respecs.
Not a big deal for some, strategically interesting for some, and a godsend for people who maxed a character with suboptimal covers.

Orangecrush

simonsez wrote:

scottee wrote:

Plus...your heroes actually get stronger, which is, like, the whole point of this thing.

Again, confining this to 4*, how many extra covers for a given character will most people ever get? Maybe 20? I don't think 20 extra levels on a 4* will be noticeable.

20 levels on a boosted 4* is significant. Also, pulling duplicate 4* covers from LT won't feel like such a kick in the pants

Der_Lex

Orangecrush wrote:

simonsez wrote:

scottee wrote:

Plus...your heroes actually get stronger, which is, like, the whole point of this thing.

Again, confining this to 4*, how many extra covers for a given character will most people ever get? Maybe 20? I don't think 20 extra levels on a 4* will be noticeable.

20 levels on a boosted 4* is significant. Also, pulling duplicate 4* covers from LT won't feel like such a kick in the pants

Except when it's for one of the lower tier 4*s that nobody is going to waste their precious ISO on. Those Star-Lord and IW covers are still going to be groan-worthy.

XandorXerxes

Der_Lex wrote:

Orangecrush wrote:

simonsez wrote:

scottee wrote:

Plus...your heroes actually get stronger, which is, like, the whole point of this thing.

Again, confining this to 4*, how many extra covers for a given character will most people ever get? Maybe 20? I don't think 20 extra levels on a 4* will be noticeable.

20 levels on a boosted 4* is significant. Also, pulling duplicate 4* covers from LT won't feel like such a kick in the pants

Except when it's for one of the lower tier 4*s that nobody is going to waste their precious ISO on. Those Star-Lord and IW covers are still going to be groan-worthy.

I'd be amused if the rewards for championing Star-Lord were better than the others. They likely won't be, as everyone would just view the ISO investment as a necessary cost and then it'd be pointless, but *shrug*

IlDuderino

Would be nice to see some 5* covers in there - my token luck stinks

newton999

It's a good idea for business !
How many people will be tempted to buy the last cover for their 3/4/5 Hulkbuster ?
Free re-spec is not a little advantage i think.

simonsez

Orangecrush wrote:

20 levels on a boosted 4* is significant.

Which aspect of those 20 levels is significant? The 1k extra health, or the 300 in extra damage an attack will do?