PVE: Meet Rocket & Groot (29 November - 03 December)

madok

How the heck does Mystique mimic Tony in his full suit in the second sub?

Does he/she "walk" into the scene and walk out because I'm pretty sure her powers don't let her fly an imaginary suit.

That part kills me every time.

Cousin Simpson

madok wrote:

How the heck does Mystique mimic Tony in his full suit in the second sub?

Does he/she "walk" into the scene and walk out because I'm pretty sure her powers don't let her fly an imaginary suit.

That part kills me every time.

Magneto is just off-panel levitating her.

PeeOne

Lapl4ce wrote:

ammenell wrote:

if the first sub is THAT annoying, i wouldnt play the whole pve if a fully covered surfer would wait at the end for me.

Wait till sub 3 where you'll find Doom and mystique with blue and purple feeders.

Sub 3 was a cake walk!! GSBW, BP as my base and switch between - DD, Cyke & Colosus as the third

The first I gave up when I saw the scaling of some nodes... I knew I couldn't repel firepower of that magnitude...

PS Amadeus Inferno - node 3 just made me vomit - 395's

Unknown

PeeOne wrote:

Lapl4ce wrote:

ammenell wrote:

if the first sub is THAT annoying, i wouldnt play the whole pve if a fully covered surfer would wait at the end for me.

Wait till sub 3 where you'll find Doom and mystique with blue and purple feeders.

Sub 3 was a cake walk!! GSBW, BP as my base and switch between - DD, Cyke & Colosus as the third

The first I gave up when I saw the scaling of some nodes... I knew I could repel firepower of that magnitude...

PS Amadeus Inferno - node 3 just made me vomit - 395's

Yeah Sub 3 seems a lot easier than I remember. I thought the middle "Normal" node had an empirisct instead of a subject though?

Amusingly I'm getting beat pretty badly on the Cap essential node, lots of infiltration happening.

Unknown

What I don't understand is - I can grind the pins/nodes with the highest points first and then play from easy up to the hard ones with more points;
yet I can never get enough points to reach the Legendary Token. 4 days I played, trying to at least get 10 000 points a day; but I didn't even make it to 40 000. But on the top players, there are players who have raked in over 70 000 points. How is this possible?

TxMoose

Mishumo wrote:

What I don't understand is - I can grind the pins/nodes with the highest points first and then play from easy up to the hard ones with more points;
yet I can never get enough points to reach the Legendary Token. 4 days I played, trying to at least get 10 000 points a day; but I didn't even make it to 40 000. But on the top players, there are players who have raked in over 70 000 points. How is this possible?

to maximize pts, make 1 clear of all nodes at event start. clear again 8hrs later. clear again 8 hrs later. continue until sub end - at sub end give yourself enough time to grind nodes to 1 or close to it. start the next sub and the process over again. that is how you get the 70K pts. I joined 1 clear into the event, I don't have GR, and am in a slice where I leave 1 clear on the table every sub and i'll still get there on my next clear (1 clear before event end). it took some work grinding sub 2 but really glad I don't have to grind sub 3.

Unknown

TxMoose wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

What I don't understand is - I can grind the pins/nodes with the highest points first and then play from easy up to the hard ones with more points;
yet I can never get enough points to reach the Legendary Token. 4 days I played, trying to at least get 10 000 points a day; but I didn't even make it to 40 000. But on the top players, there are players who have raked in over 70 000 points. How is this possible?

to maximize pts, make 1 clear of all nodes at event start. clear again 8hrs later. clear again 8 hrs later. continue until sub end - at sub end give yourself enough time to grind nodes to 1 or close to it. start the next sub and the process over again. that is how you get the 70K pts. I joined 1 clear into the event, I don't have GR, and am in a slice where I leave 1 clear on the table every sub and i'll still get there on my next clear (1 clear before event end). it took some work grinding sub 2 but really glad I don't have to grind sub 3.

Let me see if I understand you correctly...

I should play all nodes once until I finish them all - then play all nodes again once after 8 hours...
That means if a node is 24 hours long, I should clear all nodes 3 times?

What do you mean by 'sub'?

I don't mean to sound rude but please explain to me as if I have never played Marvel Quest before. I really need to fully understand your strategy.

TxMoose

Mishumo wrote:

Let me see if I understand you correctly...

I should play all nodes once until I finish them all - then play all nodes again once after 8 hours...
That means if a node is 24 hours long, I should clear all nodes 3 times?

What do you mean by 'sub'?

I don't mean to sound rude but please explain to me as if I have never played Marvel Quest before. I really need to fully understand your strategy.

no problem. you don't sound rude at all. ok, here goes:

event starts and you have the rocket&groot main event screen. I think there was one loaner node on it at the time. play the loaner node. that will open up a "sub". the sub is played in a different 'room' than the main event 'room'. for most 4-day events the first sub is 24 hours, the second is 48 hours, and the third is 24 hours. don't remember what the first sub name was but the last sub name was 'seed of destruction'.

ok, so you played the entry node and entered the first sub. play all those nodes one time each. then if you open a node after you play it you'll see a timer in the upper left that says "'FULL POINTS IN: XhXXm". once you play all the nodes once through (what I call a 'clear'), you're done for 8hrs minus however long it took you to make your clear. when the timer of the first node you played counts down and hits zero, do the whole process over again - start with the loaner node in the main room and then move on to the sub room and do those once again when their timers hit zero. keep doing that process until it gets towards the end of the 'sub'. you can see how long is left in the sub from the main "STORY" tab in the game. the sub tile will have 2 ribbons across the middle of the tile. a red one with the number of players in the event (usually a full pve event will have 1000 players) and black one with time left in the event (or sub). generally if you want to really grind everything down and are relatively new to the process, give yourself several hours for the grind. once you've done this a few times you'll get a better feel for how long it takes you. the winners of the event are the ones who can do the final complete grind the fastest and who start the latest, but still get everything to 1. the longer you wait, the higher the points get.

when the sub ends, start the next sub immediately with your full first clear and then repeat the process. don't forget to periodically do any repeatable nodes in the main event room. there are a few other things that can maximize your score, but make things generally harder - like starting your grind with the lowest scoring nodes, letting the higher nodes climb as high as possible in points. however, this means you will grind the trivial nodes and the harder nodes will scale up every time you don't take enough damage, so at the end, the hard nodes will be very high level. I never compete for top placement and usually just want my t50 sub ranking and to get to the LT so I generally start with the harder nodes to get them done before scaling gets too crazy.

Unknown

TxMoose wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

Let me see if I understand you correctly...

I should play all nodes once until I finish them all - then play all nodes again once after 8 hours...
That means if a node is 24 hours long, I should clear all nodes 3 times?

What do you mean by 'sub'?

I don't mean to sound rude but please explain to me as if I have never played Marvel Quest before. I really need to fully understand your strategy.

no problem. you don't sound rude at all. ok, here goes:

event starts and you have the rocket&groot main event screen. I think there was one loaner node on it at the time. play the loaner node. that will open up a "sub". the sub is played in a different 'room' than the main event 'room'. for most 4-day events the first sub is 24 hours, the second is 48 hours, and the third is 24 hours. don't remember what the first sub name was but the last sub name was 'seed of destruction'.

ok, so you played the entry node and entered the first sub. play all those nodes one time each. then if you open a node after you play it you'll see a timer in the upper left that says "'FULL POINTS IN: XhXXm". once you play all the nodes once through (what I call a 'clear'), you're done for 8hrs minus however long it took you to make your clear. when the timer of the first node you played counts down and hits zero, do the whole process over again - start with the loaner node in the main room and then move on to the sub room and do those once again when their timers hit zero. keep doing that process until it gets towards the end of the 'sub'. you can see how long is left in the sub from the main "STORY" tab in the game. the sub tile will have 2 ribbons across the middle of the tile. a red one with the number of players in the event (usually a full pve event will have 1000 players) and black one with time left in the event (or sub). generally if you want to really grind everything down and are relatively new to the process, give yourself several hours for the grind. once you've done this a few times you'll get a better feel for how long it takes you. the winners of the event are the ones who can do the final complete grind the fastest and who start the latest, but still get everything to 1. the longer you wait, the higher the points get.

when the sub ends, start the next sub immediately with your full first clear and then repeat the process. don't forget to periodically do any repeatable nodes in the main event room. there are a few other things that can maximize your score, but make things generally harder - like starting your grind with the lowest scoring nodes, letting the higher nodes climb as high as possible in points. however, this means you will grind the trivial nodes and the harder nodes will scale up every time you don't take enough damage, so at the end, the hard nodes will be very high level. I never compete for top placement and usually just want my t50 sub ranking and to get to the LT so I generally start with the harder nodes to get them done before scaling gets too crazy.

Thank you buddy - I fully understand now. I also don't need to be at the top end (t50 or t100 is good enough), I just want to make enough points to get the Legendary Token.
Wait, I have a question -- you said: the sub tile will have 2 ribbons across the middle of the tile. a red one with the number of players in the event (usually a full pve event will have 1000 players) and black one with time left in the event (or sub). - however, I haven't seen this but I will start looking out for the 2 ribbons; do you know when they become available?

madok

Mishumo wrote:

Thank you buddy - I fully understand now. I also don't need to be at the top end (t50 or t100 is good enough), I just want to make enough points to get the Legendary Token.

If you just want t50 to t100 and the legendary token, then you won't even need to do a huge grind at the end of each sub usually.

At the most, you can do 2 more clears through all the nodes and that will get you the points you need for the Legendary token and most likely at least a t100 finish on that sub. For example, I will do two more clears of the nodes about an hour before the sub ends and maybe the Command Point nodes a few extra times if I haven't gotten the CPs, and that gets me a top 50 placement 95% of the time.

The caveat to that is if it is a new 4* release event because people go crazy in those every time and if you get a super hard core slice/bracket where a lot of folks are doing hard grinds.

Unknown

madok wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

Thank you buddy - I fully understand now. I also don't need to be at the top end (t50 or t100 is good enough), I just want to make enough points to get the Legendary Token.

If you just want t50 to t100 and the legendary token, then you won't even need to do a huge grind at the end of each sub usually.

At the most, you can do 2 more clears through all the nodes and that will get you the points you need for the Legendary token and most likely at least a t100 finish on that sub. For example, I will do two more clears of the nodes about an hour before the sub ends and maybe the Command Point nodes a few extra times if I haven't gotten the CPs, and that gets me a top 50 placement 95% of the time.

The caveat to that is if it is a new 4* release event because people go crazy in those every time and if you get a super hard core slice/bracket where a lot of folks are doing hard grinds.

Until today, I would grind out the special hard nodes first, until they get to just under 100 points; then I would grind the rest of the nodes each, until they get to less then 100. I guess the full points never get restored as the restore time for those nodes goes beyond the remaining time.

So from my understanding, I clear the nodes once; wait for the restore points time and clear again; and then grind close to the end of the sub; what is the best time to grind the nodes near the end time?

Unknown

Mishumo wrote:

So from my understanding, I clear the nodes once; wait for the restore points time and clear again; and then grind close to the end of the sub; what is the best time to grind the nodes near the end time?

Time yourself clearing one of the first 3 times. Then multiply by 6 and use that as a baseline for how far from the end you start. That gives you just about enough time to clear all nodes 6 times, which is when they go down to 1. If you don't want to do a full grind, just figure out about how many times you want to clear each node and multiply by that.

PeeOne

qkumbredood wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

So from my understanding, I clear the nodes once; wait for the restore points time and clear again; and then grind close to the end of the sub; what is the best time to grind the nodes near the end time?

Time yourself clearing one of the first 3 times. Then multiply by 6 and use that as a baseline for how far from the end you start. That gives you just about enough time to clear all nodes 6 times, which is when they go down to 1. If you don't want to do a full grind, just figure out about how many times you want to clear each node and multiply by that.

Gotta say that I like this strategy!! I was one of the 'others' that played nodes down to Zero straight away to stay at the top... Been testing this out and it works well... I even finished top 100 without a full grind down AND doing the first clear 7 hours after the event started!! (11pm event start in Australia is a bit too late when you have 2 kids!!)

Will continue to test! During the current Hulk PvE - always open to trying new things

stochasticism

PeeOne wrote:

qkumbredood wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

So from my understanding, I clear the nodes once; wait for the restore points time and clear again; and then grind close to the end of the sub; what is the best time to grind the nodes near the end time?

Time yourself clearing one of the first 3 times. Then multiply by 6 and use that as a baseline for how far from the end you start. That gives you just about enough time to clear all nodes 6 times, which is when they go down to 1. If you don't want to do a full grind, just figure out about how many times you want to clear each node and multiply by that.

Gotta say that I like this strategy!! I was one of the 'others' that played nodes down to Zero straight away to stay at the top... Been testing this out and it works well... I even finished top 100 without a full grind down AND doing the first clear 7 hours after the event started!! (11pm event start in Australia is a bit too late when you have 2 kids!!)

Will continue to test! During the current Hulk PvE - always open to trying new things

4* release events are not the best time to try new, potentially sub-optimal strategies.

PeeOne

stochasticism wrote:

PeeOne wrote:

qkumbredood wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

So from my understanding, I clear the nodes once; wait for the restore points time and clear again; and then grind close to the end of the sub; what is the best time to grind the nodes near the end time?

Time yourself clearing one of the first 3 times. Then multiply by 6 and use that as a baseline for how far from the end you start. That gives you just about enough time to clear all nodes 6 times, which is when they go down to 1. If you don't want to do a full grind, just figure out about how many times you want to clear each node and multiply by that.

Gotta say that I like this strategy!! I was one of the 'others' that played nodes down to Zero straight away to stay at the top... Been testing this out and it works well... I even finished top 100 without a full grind down AND doing the first clear 7 hours after the event started!! (11pm event start in Australia is a bit too late when you have 2 kids!!)

Will continue to test! During the current Hulk PvE - always open to trying new things

4* release events are not the best time to try new, potentially sub-optimal strategies.

The Hulk - Dark Reign is a 4 star release event??

I thought Amadeus was the release event

stochasticism

Look at the rewards. You can get up to 5 covers by performing well in The Hulk PvE.

Unknown

PeeOne wrote:

qkumbredood wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

So from my understanding, I clear the nodes once; wait for the restore points time and clear again; and then grind close to the end of the sub; what is the best time to grind the nodes near the end time?

Time yourself clearing one of the first 3 times. Then multiply by 6 and use that as a baseline for how far from the end you start. That gives you just about enough time to clear all nodes 6 times, which is when they go down to 1. If you don't want to do a full grind, just figure out about how many times you want to clear each node and multiply by that.

Gotta say that I like this strategy!! I was one of the 'others' that played nodes down to Zero straight away to stay at the top... Been testing this out and it works well... I even finished top 100 without a full grind down AND doing the first clear 7 hours after the event started!! (11pm event start in Australia is a bit too late when you have 2 kids!!)

Will continue to test! During the current Hulk PvE - always open to trying new things

Fortunately I am single and I work from home; so I tried that strategy, I started the nodes when the event started; waited for full points to restore then tried it again (on the new Hulk PvE); at the end of that sub, top guys had made 15k points and I made about 8k - (I even waited to full points to restore and then played the last 2 hours with all nodes on full points) - So I am not sure what I am doing wrong; but the term 'clearing'?- what if there is one node I can't play because I don't have the card; does that render the strategy useless because I haven't cleared the sub?

stochasticism

Mishumo wrote:

PeeOne wrote:

qkumbredood wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

So from my understanding, I clear the nodes once; wait for the restore points time and clear again; and then grind close to the end of the sub; what is the best time to grind the nodes near the end time?

Time yourself clearing one of the first 3 times. Then multiply by 6 and use that as a baseline for how far from the end you start. That gives you just about enough time to clear all nodes 6 times, which is when they go down to 1. If you don't want to do a full grind, just figure out about how many times you want to clear each node and multiply by that.

Gotta say that I like this strategy!! I was one of the 'others' that played nodes down to Zero straight away to stay at the top... Been testing this out and it works well... I even finished top 100 without a full grind down AND doing the first clear 7 hours after the event started!! (11pm event start in Australia is a bit too late when you have 2 kids!!)

Will continue to test! During the current Hulk PvE - always open to trying new things

Fortunately I am single and I work from home; so I tried that strategy, but I started the nodes when they started; waited for full points to restore then tried it again (on the new Hulk PvE); at the end, top guys had made 15k points and I made about 8k - (I even waited to full points to restore and then played the last 2 hours) - So I am not sure what I am doing wrong; but the term 'clearing' - what if there is one node you can't play because you don't have the card; does that render the strategy useless?

No, the strategy is still the same as you are still clearing optimally for you. It just means that someone elses optimal will be about 12% higher than yours.

Unknown

stochasticism wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

No, the strategy is still the same as you are still clearing optimally for you. It just means that someone elses optimal will be about 12% higher than yours.

When is the best time to start the main node?
Does clearing a sub quickly also affect the points system? (because sometimes I can start a node and get distracted and complete it after 1 hour or even longer...etc)

stochasticism

Mishumo wrote:

stochasticism wrote:

Mishumo wrote:

No, the strategy is still the same as you are still clearing optimally for you. It just means that someone elses optimal will be about 12% higher than yours.

When is the best time to start the main node?
Does clearing a sub quickly also affect the points system? (because sometimes I can start a node and get distracted and complete it after 1 hour or even longer...etc)

For the main node I would grind it when it becomes worth more points than the other nodes you have available.

Yes, the faster you clear the more points you will have in your nodes in the final grind.