Soo I bought a Stark Salary..

Punisher5784

I agree that a $100 is excessive but I haven't spent money on the game in nearly a year so I figured this would be a way to say "Thank you" and perhaps grab the elusive Silver Surfer. Well I am here to tell you that it was the biggest disappointment in my entire MPQ "career" and a complete waste of money.

The 40 pack starts off Purple making you think you just opened Silver Surfer but it's just giving you the new Legendary Token.

My 40 Pulls:

:yellowflag: (Not Needed)
(Needed)
(Not Needed)
(Not Needed)
(Not Needed)
(Not Needed)
("Needed")
(Not Needed)
(Needed only because I have a duplicate)
(Not Needed)
(Not Needed)

So 11 Golds out of 40, what happened to the increased odds?! Technically only 1 was truly usable and I opened no 4*'s! After the disappointment of my first 40 pack I eagerly open my shiny Legendary token to open.......

:redflag:

Yupp.. that's what I got AND I had to buy a roster slot for him. I have never felt so ripped off in my life, and this is coming from someone who use to purchase tons of Magic booster boxes. Even if I was a whale I would be very angry about this. You would think if a player buys a Stark Salary to get a 40pack, the system would magically give the player their moneys worth but sadly no.

I have no one to blame but myself. I got caught up in the Legendary Token hype.. never again. While I am happy I was able to support MPQ continued success, I wish the results could have been more favorable. With that said, let this be a warning to those who are want to purchase a 40pk but are very hesitate. Unless you want to also show MPQ some thanks, don't risk it.

I wish everyone luck! Surfs Up!

Edit: My luck turned around with the season end tokens: viewtopic.php?style=1&f=20&t=32396&start=40

DFiPL

Punisher5784 wrote:

So 11 Golds out of 40, what happened to the increased odds?!

You have about 5% better odds than any individual pull, but your odds still amount to about 3/10.

Over 40 pulls, that would be...12 golds. Your results might be mildly unlucky but that discrepancy over that sample size really isn't statistically significant.

Sorry you're disappointed, though.

Raffoon

Out of every 100 people that open a 40 pack hoping for Surfer......

95 do not get one.

Math says he'll still be whaled by the end of the week, though.

Punisher5784

aesthetocyst wrote:

Well ... at least a 40pk doesn't eat up a whole stark, you should have plenty left over to cover operating expenses for a while. Or a couple slots ... Or just buying covers directly. Sorry it didn't pan out, but you knew it was a die roll.

It's tired advice, but if I was up for dropping a stark, it would be for 4* covers, to be more competitive and better able to earn Legendaries next season.

You're right, it would of been smarter to buy 4* covers but I don't have many to do so but yeah at least I have the HP for future slots, I'm up to 900 slot. I knew the risk but I hoped luck would be on my side. I should have known better than to rely on luck. Well you win some, you lose some.

Unknown

Mistake was buying a multi-pack at all. They're an extremely bad investment. Roster slots are the best investment, followed discounted single tokens (the 50 HP variety), followed by shields, followed by direct cover purchases.

Multi-packs really only are a rational purchase at the very start of the game when you need a ton of 2*'s and 3*s. The more complete your roster, the more junk pulls you'll end up with. So unless you like super-whaling, they're beyond a bad investment.

Punisher5784

BlackBoltRocks wrote:

At least it wasnt ...

I would have gladly traded in some of those 3*'s for IW. Mine is at 2/1/0, at least I would be able to level her to MAYBE compete against the upcoming 1v1 4* DDQ.

puppychow

Permit me to take the contrarian view. I think the OP is missing enough 3/4 covers so that a 40 pack would contain enough useful covers to be worth buying.

Now for someone with my roster, on the other hand, a direct purchase would be better.

Unknown

Punisher5784 wrote:

The 40 pack starts off Purple making you think you just opened Silver Surfer but it's just giving you the new Legendary Token.
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I thought this when opening mine also and it was a Kingpin so I was pleasantly surprised at the end to see I had the token left

Unknown

So you had to buy a slot for star-lord? You didn't have him yet? Nice!

simonsez

Punisher5784 wrote:

I have never felt so ripped off in my life

You felt ripped off by something that was completely within the realm of statistical likelihood??

Damn, life is going to have some nasty surprises in store for you...

Vhailorx

Punisher,

I am pretty hard on demiurge about the frankly ridiculous pricing of digital goods in this game. That said, I think it's a little unfair for you to be angry with the result of your 40-pack purchase. It sucks that you didn't get what you wanted, despite dropping all that cash.

But even a cursory glance at the probabilities will show that "not getting what you want" is far and away the most likely outcome of any individual purchase or token pull in the game. So you basically got exactly what you paid for, as much as that sucks.

As others in the thread have posted, the most worthwhile investment in the game is the roster slots, probably followed by anniversary tokens (with the daily deal), 3-hour shields and well-timed boost all ap consumables. 40-packs are among the worst return on investment in the game, which is probably why legendary tokens are now included. . .

GrimSkald

Raffoon wrote:

Out of every 100 people that open a 40 pack hoping for Surfer......

95 do not get one.

Math says he'll still be whaled by the end of the week, though.

I honestly don't think that is going to happen. Keep in mind that you can't buy covers for the Surfer, you have to pull him from the legendary token at a 5% chance at 11,200 HP a pop (a bit over half a Stark Salary, or about $60 American.) In the main thread several people did the math - it's the cost of a decent car (new) or a down payment for a house.

I think what we'll see is 1 or 2 cover Silver Surfers over the next few days, and that number will grow slowly. Call me optimistic, but I don't think we'll see a fully-covered, fully-leveled Surfer for months. When that happens we'll have a serious scaling problem, but I think D3 will fix it sooner or later - probably by nerfing the effect of the levels, but we'll see. I think their intention to make the 5*s more useful at lower levels is going to make them completely overwhelming at higher levels (even against a 4* team,) but again, we'll see.

Punisher5784

simonsez wrote:

Punisher5784 wrote:

I have never felt so ripped off in my life

You felt ripped off by something that was completely within the realm of statistical likelihood??

Damn, life is going to have some nasty surprises in store for you...

I was simply venting my frustration at the beginning of the post. I admitted that I was aware of the poor statistical likelihood that I would not pull anything worthwhile. I am also very aware of life's surprises. I'm 31, not 13 but thank you for your insight

Vhailorx wrote:

Punisher,

I am pretty hard on demiurge about the frankly ridiculous pricing of digital goods in this game. That said, I think it's a little unfair for you to be angry with the result of your 40-pack purchase. It sucks that you didn't get what you wanted, despite dropping all that cash.

But even a cursory glance at the probabilities will show that "not getting what you want" is far and away the most likely outcome of any individual purchase or token pull in the game. So you basically got exactly what you paid for, as much as that sucks.

As others in the thread have posted, the most worthwhile investment in the game is the roster slots, probably followed by anniversary tokens (with the daily deal), 3-hour shields and well-timed boost all ap consumables. 40-packs are among the worst return on investment in the game, which is probably why legendary tokens are now included. . .

As I said, the main reason I bought the Stark Salary was to show some support as I have not purchased anything in over a year. I was moreso disappointed than mad. I know what the worthwhile investment is, I was simply taking a chance on luck. I rarely gamble so I should continue not to take so many risks

I'm over it. No more venting or crying. It is what it is. The positive note is now I have HP for roster slots which I likely would have had to buy anyway with the upcoming Legendary tokens in PVE.

Marty17

Funnily enough with my collectors OCD (I like to call it) I'm surprised that I ain't itching to "buy" the new character (in this case, spending on packs). I'm more than happy to earn the Legendary tokens than buying a bulk to obtain one, which is fairly unlike me (in the past if I fail to obtain the new character release, I'll try my luck on those exclusive packs).

Punisher5784

Marty17 wrote:

Funnily enough with my collectors OCD (I like to call it) I'm surprised that I ain't itching to "buy" the new character (in this case, spending on packs). I'm more than happy to earn the Legendary tokens than buying a bulk to obtain one, which is fairly unlike me (in the past if I fail to obtain the new character release, I'll try my luck on those exclusive packs).

That's exactly why I made this post (besides to vent). Control the player OCD and just earn Legendary tokens the normal way

I remember when I stopped buying Magic booster boxes.. I have not looked back since and don't regret missing any releases lol

TxMoose

Punisher5784 wrote:

Marty17 wrote:

Funnily enough with my collectors OCD (I like to call it) I'm surprised that I ain't itching to "buy" the new character (in this case, spending on packs). I'm more than happy to earn the Legendary tokens than buying a bulk to obtain one, which is fairly unlike me (in the past if I fail to obtain the new character release, I'll try my luck on those exclusive packs).

That's exactly why I made this post (besides to vent). Control the player OCD and just earn Legendary tokens the normal way

I remember when I stopped buying Magic booster boxes.. I have not looked back since and don't regret missing any releases lol

thanks for the PSA. getting really close to making another purchase and while I would've been tempted to splurge on the 40, a few specific covers would be much better.

Polares

GrimSkald wrote:

Raffoon wrote:

Out of every 100 people that open a 40 pack hoping for Surfer......

95 do not get one.

Math says he'll still be whaled by the end of the week, though.

I honestly don't think that is going to happen. Keep in mind that you can't buy covers for the Surfer, you have to pull him from the legendary token at a 5% chance at 11,200 HP a pop (a bit over half a Stark Salary, or about $60 American.) In the main thread several people did the math - it's the cost of a decent car (new) or a down payment for a house.

I think what we'll see is 1 or 2 cover Silver Surfers over the next few days, and that number will grow slowly. Call me optimistic, but I don't think we'll see a fully-covered, fully-leveled Surfer for months. When that happens we'll have a serious scaling problem, but I think D3 will fix it sooner or later - probably by nerfing the effect of the levels, but we'll see. I think their intention to make the 5*s more useful at lower levels is going to make them completely overwhelming at higher levels (even against a 4* team,) but again, we'll see.

Well today I have already seen someone with 3 covers of SS. I dont know if he has been very lucky or if he has spent 1000$ for them

throvolos

Polares wrote:

Well today I have already seen someone with 3 covers of SS. I dont know if he has been very lucky or if he has spent 1000$ for them

Not surprised. There are too many rich kids out there with no concept of rational purchasing.

$60 for a 5% chance? No thanks, ever. I'll work for my free shots and hope to get lucky.

I expect the forums to be full of cries of "Unfair!" once people have to square off against SS in PvP though.

slidecage

throvolos wrote:

Polares wrote:

Well today I have already seen someone with 3 covers of SS. I dont know if he has been very lucky or if he has spent 1000$ for them

Not surprised. There are too many rich kids out there with no concept of rational purchasing.

$60 for a 5% chance? No thanks, ever. I'll work for my free shots and hope to get lucky.

I expect the forums to be full of cries of "Unfair!" once people have to square off against SS in PvP though.

that is why i REALLY REALLY HOPE D3 thinks this out and starts making 2 PVPS

one pvp what will have unlimited people you can put into your team
one pvp what will limit you to only 1 2 and 3 stars

the unlimited would give better rewards maybe double what the other one would give

top 2 get token
top 10 get 3 covers
top 50 get 2 covers
top 150 get 1 cover

thought they should have a few months before the 5 stars really become a major problem

Pongie

I would rather buy that box of magic card for $100, At least you can flip the cards you open if you don't need it. MPQ only lets you sell them for ISO. There should be a trade mechanism or an auction where MPQ gets a cut of the final price?

Pylgrim

I actually think that of all people that have ever posted their disgruntlement about poor luck when purchasing 40+ packs, OP has been the most civil, self-aware and understanding. Kudos and better luck next time (i.e. don't try your luck, just buy the covers outright )