Juggernaut token vault

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Keep in mind without the vault it's possible to pull 2 deadpool covers in a row, even at 1.4% But with the vault if you get the single deadpool cover there are no more until you reset the vault. So there are benefits to both ways.
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    @9800 a token pack is almost worth it... i want the vault!
  • W4LAndre
    W4LAndre Posts: 73 Match Maker
    When I saw the Juggernaut vault this morning, that actually had some useful things in it nonetheless, I began thinking how this may be a good way to gather data on some potential vault restructuring for tacos. I said to my alliance mates that 80 seems like a very reasonable vault size, especially with the 100 HP daily deal. It isn't straight up giving away 4* rewards but it actually gives a little hope for getting something other than another 2* Daken or Hawkguy. 4 out of 80 is 5 times better than 3 out of 300, still not great, but I'm happy to see the increase, even if it is all covers and no extra items. Especially considering that nowadays I only dip into the taco vault whenever I need healthpacks to keep going in PVP.
    Of course, this may be easily picked apart and at some point I may look back on this idea as one of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" things. Either way, it is just a thought, enjoy those headbutts.
  • Ebolamonkey84
    Ebolamonkey84 Posts: 509 Critical Contributor
    1.4% on non vault tokens is for 10 packs and 42 packs only. Single event tokens only have a 0.7% chance of pulling Deadpool, compared to 1.25% for the vault before anything is pulled.

    If I remember correctly, this event has 3 subs, so with the 1 progression token you are getting 4-7 free tokens at the most.
  • JordonLee
    JordonLee Posts: 161 Tile Toppler
    Cayasha wrote:
    Keep in mind without the vault it's possible to pull 2 deadpool covers in a row, even at 1.4% But with the vault if you get the single deadpool cover there are no more until you reset the vault. So there are benefits to both ways.

    Except that's not how probabilities work. The odds of pulling two out of a token pack of a 3 day event is very low. Anything after that is just dumb luck, nothing more. There's 7 token chances in this event, free anyway. And that's if you come top 2 in each sub.
    The average player will end up with 4 tokens.

    In the end, the vault is making it much easier to get at least one Deadpool cover for the general player base. It's actually making it easier for more players to get one cover.

    (Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm terrible at this sort of stuff and cannot work it out. But if my math knowledge is correct, this very basic thought is at least semi correct).
  • CrookedKnight
    CrookedKnight Posts: 2,579 Chairperson of the Boards
    I might bite on the 100HP daily deal tokens, since I ended up with a decent selection of 3*s in addition to the big prizes, but yeah, this is going to be a lot of small sample size theater.

    Edit re: probabilities -- yeah, it's very very unlikely that you'll pull two Deadpools from the regular tokens, but it's impossible with the vault unless you pay HP for a reset. Every vault pool has one and only one 4* Deadpool cover.
  • nwman
    nwman Posts: 331 Mover and Shaker
    I like it, I have the deadpool black in mine and an imhb red.

    I'll take those 2 covers please.

    icon_e_smile.gif
  • GurlBYE
    GurlBYE Posts: 1,218 Chairperson of the Boards
    CrookedKnight wrote:
    You see one or the other. Like I said, this is A/B testing -- it's a reasonably common method of testing a new feature by rolling it out to one group of your users while the rest see no changes, and then the devs can compare data and feedback between the two groups. Google uses it a ton with layout changes and the like.


    It's a horrible idea regardless.

    A/B testing is for 2 new methods. Not so much for, tried and true method data has been collected on for years.

    It's clear which would be more successful at gaining a purchase.

    Hmm a 1.5% chance vs 1 in 80.


    Yup 1 in 80 wins. game over.

    I'm assuming were waiting for an update for those without it or this is pretty bone-headed.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    this vault is located by scrolling right to the very end of the shopping choices....

    android user here (also NOT in a juggernaut bracket yet).
  • GurlBYE
    GurlBYE Posts: 1,218 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2015
    Splarne wrote:
    this vault is located by scrolling right to the very end of the shopping choices....

    android user here (also NOT in a juggernaut bracket yet).


    It's not there for everyone.

    edit- As a lucky bonus I got 101 in the event too.
    Gotta love this game. Competition for limited rewards of popular characters is a totally inspiring way to get me to spend money on the game icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    the vault isn't appearing for me too icon_e_sad.gif, can someone post a picture of the juggernaut vault?
  • CaptainFreaky
    CaptainFreaky Posts: 451 Mover and Shaker
    xubango wrote:
    the vault isn't appearing for me too icon_e_sad.gif, can someone post a picture of the juggernaut vault?

    WTH?
    Yes - please post images and continue to provide feedback on vault as I have the standard token page, but with a 100HP daily deal for a single token instead of 200HP.
    As it is, I don't know if my game will be updated later today to the vault or if I will continue with the standard offer. I'm hesitant to purchase the 100HP daily deal if that "locks me in" to that option or if I will be updated to the vault. Ugh.

    I get the idea of A/B testing, but D3/Demiurge has to realize this will be noticed on the forum so they might as well be up front about it and say they are "testing response to a Vault vs. a more conventional approach with a lower cost daily deal" - they would take literally 60 seconds for them to write and we wouldn't need these threads.....
  • MPQ_Daywalker
    MPQ_Daywalker Posts: 384 Mover and Shaker
    Here's a pic:
    2015-08-10%2011.06.47.png

    FWIW, I have not yet joined a Juggernaut PvE slice.
  • GurlBYE
    GurlBYE Posts: 1,218 Chairperson of the Boards
    _Daywalker_ wrote:
    Here's a pic:
    2015-08-10%2011.06.47.png

    FWIW, I have not yet joined a Juggernaut PvE slice.



    Lol isn't that more 4 stars then the normal vault.

    Unless they begin to add more progression pack awards in each sub, I don't care that literally 2 people per day get a 1.3% chance for free.

    A lot of the posts defending this stuff come off very stockholme syndrome
  • firethorne
    firethorne Posts: 1,505 Chairperson of the Boards
    I don't have this either icon_e_sad.gif
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Updated the game to R81 and still dont have the vault.
  • CrookedKnight
    CrookedKnight Posts: 2,579 Chairperson of the Boards
    Android isn't on R81 yet, this is not a patch thing.
  • DrStrange-616
    DrStrange-616 Posts: 993 Critical Contributor
    Four 4*s out of 80 tokens?

    I'd like those odds, too, please.
  • Wobby
    Wobby Posts: 286 Mover and Shaker
    I only need one of the 80 covers, DP red.

    The vault only gives the illusion of an increase, though. To double your chances of getting the DP cover to 2.5%, you need to have opened 40 tokens.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    edited August 2015
    it's 1/80 chance.....considering the odds d3 normally gives us, time to spend some HP/have a reason to actually care about jugg heroic now

    don't correct my **** math

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