Things you could buy instead of a LR 6 Pack

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The cheapest way to purchase the 6000 HP necessasary to buy the Courageous 6 Pack by my reckoing is 2x 2900 (£13.99) and 1x 200 (£1.49) = £29.47

I thought I'd list some things you can buy for £30:

The Elder Scrolls - Skyrim: £14.99 on Steam
Breaking Bad Seasons 1-3: £17.99 on Amazon
The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings Book Set - £19.99 on Amazon
A Set of Ninja Throwing Stars: £9.19 on Amazon
An Indian Head Massage: £30 on impactphysio.co.uk
Food for 2 people for a week: £30 most supermarkets
A 70cl bottle of Jack Daniels: £25.00 from Asda
A driving lesson (Essex)
A new pair of trainers
A nice pair of jeans
2 Pairs of jeans even
Maybe 3 for 2 if you go to the right shop
A piece of the **** moon: from £16.75 from moonestates.com

Feel free to add your own. I've been gaming for a long time and it has been a while since I've seen something quite so ridiculous.

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abuelo wrote:

The cheapest way to purchase the 6000 HP necessasary to buy the Courageous 6 Pack by my reckoing is 2x 2900 (£13.99) and 1x 200 (£1.49) = £29.47

I thought I'd list some things you can buy for £30:

The Elder Scrolls - Skyrim: £14.99 on Steam
Breaking Bad Seasons 1-3: £17.99 on Amazon
The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings Book Set - £19.99 on Amazon
A Set of Ninja Throwing Stars: £9.19 on Amazon
An Indian Head Massage: £30 on impactphysio.co.uk
Food for 2 people for a week: £30 most supermarkets
A 70cl bottle of Jack Daniels: £25.00 from Asda
A driving lesson (Essex)
A new pair of trainers
A nice pair of jeans
2 Pairs of jeans even
Maybe 3 for 2 if you go to the right shop
A piece of the tinykitty moon: from £16.75 from moonestates.com

Feel free to add your own. I've been gaming for a long time and it has been a while since I've seen something quite so ridiculous.

All thier prices are bad, but this is in line with all the rest of them. Nothing really new here. They had the same thing every lr for the last month or so. It's basically 6 for the price of 5 (1250 hp for 1 ***). I have no idea what Asda and Essex are but I assume its a euro thing

Also, with valentine's day coming up you can buy a box of godiva chocolate and some profilactics for $30. Or you know...a build-a-bear or something. I was given a stuffed anthropomorphic frog with a cat-meow voicebox inside one year...that was...odd... but (to quote despicable me) "IT'S SO FLUFFY."

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abuelo wrote:

The cheapest way to purchase the 6000 HP necessasary to buy the Courageous 6 Pack by my reckoing is 2x 2900 (£13.99) and 1x 200 (£1.49) = £29.47

I thought I'd list some things you can buy for £30:

The Elder Scrolls - Skyrim: £14.99 on Steam
Breaking Bad Seasons 1-3: £17.99 on Amazon
The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings Book Set - £19.99 on Amazon
A Set of Ninja Throwing Stars: £9.19 on Amazon
An Indian Head Massage: £30 on impactphysio.co.uk
Food for 2 people for a week: £30 most supermarkets
A 70cl bottle of Jack Daniels: £25.00 from Asda
A driving lesson (Essex)
A new pair of trainers
A nice pair of jeans
2 Pairs of jeans even
Maybe 3 for 2 if you go to the right shop
A piece of the tinykitty moon: from £16.75 from moonestates.com

Feel free to add your own. I've been gaming for a long time and it has been a while since I've seen something quite so ridiculous.

The Legendary edition at that! All the dlc is included! Imagine that!

Unknown

Prices are really ridiculous. Sort of like weapon prices in the Diablo 3 marketplace. Which is getting shut down.

Eddiemon

soenottelling wrote:

All thier prices are bad, but this is in line with all the rest of them. Nothing really new here. They had the same thing every lr for the last month or so. It's basically 6 for the price of 5 (1250 hp for 1 ***). I have no idea what Asda and Essex are but I assume its a euro thing

Also, with valentine's day coming up you can buy a box of godiva chocolate and some profilactics for $30. Or you know...a build-a-bear or something. I was given a stuffed anthropomorphic frog with a cat-meow voicebox inside one year...that was...odd... but (to quote despicable me) "IT'S SO FLUFFY."

ASDA is the Walmart equivalent.

Essex is the jersey shore equivalent.

UK rather than Euro.

IronyMan

And this pricing has been what has had me scratching my head ever since this game started. In order to make someone want to buy something, they have to see the thing as a better value than what they could otherwise use that money for. So, while there are a number of.. different minded people.. that would be willing to shell out 25 bucks to raise IW one level, the enormous majority is going to think that's a terrible deal. And the fact that they charge so much for a roulette wheel with the odds stacked against us, just amazes me. I'd be MUCH more willing to put money into this game if I felt it was a good deal. But when a single upgrade for one character costs more than the entire Xcom game for the same device? That's beyond ****

Unknown

People must have never played CCG to be complaining about these prizes.

You always pay a huge premium to eliminate uncertainty. You could go out and buy 50 packs of MTG or whatever and chances are still very good whatever specific high end card you're looking for is never going to drop, which is why people pay outrageous prices for certain MTG cards that'd be enough to buy a box or more of cards.

At where I am, it's a lot more certain to pay 2500 HP to upgrade IW for one level than buying a bunch of heroic tokens and have most of them immediately sold back for 125 Iso8s. Of course, I don't actually need IW, so I won't be doing either, but if I did, I'd definitely be doing that. This is even more true for the cover that you do not have at all.

Twysta

You can buy flights from the UK to mainland Europe for less than 30 quid.

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Phantron wrote:

People must have never played CCG to be complaining about these prizes.

You always pay a huge premium to eliminate uncertainty. You could go out and buy 50 packs of MTG or whatever and chances are still very good whatever specific high end card you're looking for is never going to drop, which is why people pay outrageous prices for certain MTG cards that'd be enough to buy a box or more of cards.

At where I am, it's a lot more certain to pay 2500 HP to upgrade IW for one level than buying a bunch of heroic tokens and have most of them immediately sold back for 125 Iso8s. Of course, I don't actually need IW, so I won't be doing either, but if I did, I'd definitely be doing that. This is even more true for the cover that you do not have at all.

This is why i print out mtg cards instead. I'm just in it to play.

IceIX

pulis wrote:

This is why i print out mtg cards instead. I'm just in it to play.

We just used Mon's Goblin Raiders with the stand-in card we wanted written over the top. Bonus style points if you used commons of the right color for your deck.

Unknown

It'd be better to put things in perspective of the game. Let's say D3 just handed you 6000 HP that must be spent on tokens before today ends or it just disappears. You can buy any tokens you want, ranging from 120 Classic Hawkeyes to 1 6-pack courageous. Keep in mind you ony get one daily deal, so buying 60 heroic tokens is out (you can only get 20 of them). The 6 pack courageous is likely the best deal for anyone that doesn't have any maxed 3* heroes. Certainly you'd be nuts to buy 20 heroic tokens instead unless you're feeling really, really lucky.

Now of course you can say you what if you don't need all the 6 3*, or that you only need certain cover for certain heroes. That deal clearly isn't meant for someone who already has some max cover 3*s. Maybe that guy would rather buy 2 of the 10 pack Oscorp assault team given the same restriction.

Hmm, after writing that down, it just occurred to me they can have a new currency like 'token-only HP', and give it out more liberally and have it cost significantly less than normal HP. Would be kind of cool to save up a few thousand of such HP and splurge on tokens (and then cry about how all the tokens suck).

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IceIX wrote:

pulis wrote:

This is why i print out mtg cards instead. I'm just in it to play.

We just used Mon's Goblin Raiders with the stand-in card we wanted written over the top. Bonus style points if you used commons of the right color for your deck.

Thank you for being a reliable dev and completely ignoring the complaint at hand, which is the fact that your stuff is overpriced. Can some one tell me how many £ to a dollar?

kensterr

Twysta wrote:

You can buy flights from the UK to mainland Europe for less than 30 quid.

+1

IronyMan

Phantron wrote:

It'd be better to put things in perspective of the game.

I really don't think it is, though. Unless I'm the minority here (and I very well may be), I look at the value of the pack/token compared to all the options that I have around me in real life. Do I want a heroic pack or do I want a taco? That ones a lot more ambiguous because to many, that one character could easily be worth more than some food (or any other good) at that exact moment. Once that value increases to the amount that we've been talking about, that "deal" isn't such a deal. And since all of my assets haven't been converted to HP, that's how I should think.

IceIX

Typhon13 wrote:

Thank you for being a reliable dev and completely ignoring the complaint at hand, which is the fact that your stuff is overpriced. Can some one tell me how many £ to a dollar?

At current exchange rates, .61 pounds to the dollar, or 1.63 dollars to make 1 pound. As for the sarcastic portion of your post, the complaint has been noted. Feedback is always appreciated.

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IronyMan wrote:

Phantron wrote:

It'd be better to put things in perspective of the game.

I really don't think it is, though. Unless I'm the minority here (and I very well may be), I look at the value of the pack/token compared to all the options that I have around me in real life. Do I want a heroic pack or do I want a taco? That ones a lot more ambiguous because to many, that one character could easily be worth more than some food (or any other good) at that exact moment. Once that value increases to the amount that we've been talking about, that "deal" isn't such a deal. And since all of my assets haven't been converted to HP, that's how I should think.

At least some of your HP is already earned for playing the game and it can't be converted back to real life currency.

The first taco might be a better deal than the heroic token but probably not the tenth taco. There are probably better things you can do with money in real life, sure, but it's not as much as you'd think. You could buy an extra week's supply of food for $30, but who's going to eat it?

kensterr

The price is a bit high for people who already has the covers - because there's no guarantee that they won't get covers which are already maxed out.

It is a good way for those who are desperate for covers if they don't have any, but price is still too costly. I suggest either sell at discounted price or drop the price of 3 star upgrades to 600-700 HP.

Unknown

This is so funny. Think about what you're getting. For your money, you get... A COLLECTION OF PIXELS THAT ARRANGE TO FORM A NUMBER HIGHER THAN BEFORE! Now you use that to buy PIXELS TO MAKE ANOTHER NUMBER HIGHER or you buy PIXELS ARRANGED IN A PRETTY PICTURE OF A SUPERHERO! Instead of something real like clothes or a bottle of jack, just to repeat a few of the op's examples. Unless you use an iTunes card or something similar, where you can only buy things like this with that money, these prices should be illegal.

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Phantron wrote:

IronyMan wrote:

Phantron wrote:

It'd be better to put things in perspective of the game.

I really don't think it is, though. Unless I'm the minority here (and I very well may be), I look at the value of the pack/token compared to all the options that I have around me in real life. Do I want a heroic pack or do I want a taco? That ones a lot more ambiguous because to many, that one character could easily be worth more than some food (or any other good) at that exact moment. Once that value increases to the amount that we've been talking about, that "deal" isn't such a deal. And since all of my assets haven't been converted to HP, that's how I should think.

At least some of your HP is already earned for playing the game and it can't be converted back to real life currency.

The first taco might be a better deal than the heroic token but probably not the tenth taco. There are probably better things you can do with money in real life, sure, but it's not as much as you'd think. You could buy an extra week's supply of food for $30, but who's going to eat it?

That's...not really how money works. Most people have a set "entertainment/miscellaneous" portion of their budget. So it's not a question of a hero pack vs a 2nd trip to the grocery store. It's a question of a hero pack or a case of beer.

IronyMan

Phantron wrote:

IronyMan wrote:

Phantron wrote:

It'd be better to put things in perspective of the game.

I really don't think it is, though. Unless I'm the minority here (and I very well may be), I look at the value of the pack/token compared to all the options that I have around me in real life. Do I want a heroic pack or do I want a taco? That ones a lot more ambiguous because to many, that one character could easily be worth more than some food (or any other good) at that exact moment. Once that value increases to the amount that we've been talking about, that "deal" isn't such a deal. And since all of my assets haven't been converted to HP, that's how I should think.

At least some of your HP is already earned for playing the game and it can't be converted back to real life currency.

The first taco might be a better deal than the heroic token but probably not the tenth taco. There are probably better things you can do with money in real life, sure, but it's not as much as you'd think. You could buy an extra week's supply of food for $30, but who's going to eat it?

That first part is totally true. If you've saved up 6000 HP purely from playing the game, that's pretty impressive. But I doubt that many who are going to be purchasing that pack have.

The second part, I kinda see where you're going with that but then you lose me. The tacos/food were just an example so it wouldn't make sense to buy that 10th taco if you didn't want it (you could spend it on socks, lightbulbs, etc) And with the 30 bucks why would you buy good if you weren't going to eat it? There's plenty you can do with that 30 bucks. Also, I never said that there WERENT people to whom that $60 heroic pack was the best use of their money for them, just a looooot less than people who would only be willing to spend less than that. The question is, where is the line where the characters become "worth it"? For me it's much much less.

Unknown

IronyMan wrote:

And this pricing has been what has had me scratching my head ever since this game started. In order to make someone want to buy something, they have to see the thing as a better value than what they could otherwise use that money for. So, while there are a number of.. different minded people.. that would be willing to shell out 25 bucks to raise IW one level, the enormous majority is going to think that's a terrible deal. And the fact that they charge so much for a roulette wheel with the odds stacked against us, just amazes me. I'd be MUCH more willing to put money into this game if I felt it was a good deal. But when a single upgrade for one character costs more than the entire Xcom game for the same device? That's beyond ****

It used to be worth it for specific very powerful heros. I took my Ragnarok from 3-red to 5-red with purchased HP. Ditto for Black Widow Grey Suit's green from 3 to 5 and Spidermans blue from 3 to 5. Nowadays they either hand those covers out much more frequently, nerf the powerful heros into mediocrity, or some combination of both. So intentionally or not they have removed from the game that which used to get to me to open my wallet.

If they offer reasonable amounts of ISO for a reasonable price I'd be interested in that I'd suppose, but the current prices are too steep for me. If they offered say 150k ISO for $100 I'd be down for that. Could buff up some of my B-team characters that I like to play for giggles. They aren't going to win any tournaments but my team of M Storm, Magneto Marvel Now, and Black Widow is just fun to play. Alternating between blowing up the board and stealing all the enemy APs is just so satisfying.