Lidolas wrote: MikeHock wrote: "The nerf of 4* Thor and X-Force were good for the game." Respectfully disagree. Milking the player-base of their $$$$ with OP characters & then nerfing those characters is a common MPQ theme. It leaves us feeling ripped off and scared to spend again (or waste months trying to max out what will eventually be nerfed). Maybe a better way to put it: The current powers of XForce and T4or are about where they should be. The game would have been better if they'd been released (or in Xforces case, the first buff) as they are now, instead of being OP and then nerfed.
MikeHock wrote: "The nerf of 4* Thor and X-Force were good for the game." Respectfully disagree. Milking the player-base of their $$$$ with OP characters & then nerfing those characters is a common MPQ theme. It leaves us feeling ripped off and scared to spend again (or waste months trying to max out what will eventually be nerfed).
GrimSkald wrote: I do think that both XF and GT were over-nerfed, but not by a lot. A small boost to XF's green and GT's red would probably bring them on par with the other good 4*s. I do agree entirely with Colog's initial post, though. The game has gotten a lot better in the last few months, and in no small part due to these nerfs, the weekly buffs, and the 1.5x PVP win increase.
Wonko33 wrote: GrimSkald wrote: I do think that both XF and GT were over-nerfed, but not by a lot. A small boost to XF's green and GT's red would probably bring them on par with the other good 4*s. I do agree entirely with Colog's initial post, though. The game has gotten a lot better in the last few months, and in no small part due to these nerfs, the weekly buffs, and the 1.5x PVP win increase. I never got the 4thor yellow changes either
Heartburn wrote: i don't want to rain on peoples parade, but i think the game hasn't got better but worse over the last few months. the vault is too big and turns around too fast. PVP i used to play exclusively getting ~900 points since the new changes the highest i got has been 750 but then i was beaten back down to 500. i still make 900+ points it is just that it gets eaten away so fast that it is not worth it. all my HP goes to roster slots and with the 2* requirement now for PVE im having to sacrifice more and more slots slots; not at 1000 so no relief for me yet. the will i had to play before the health boosts has not been tested as much as it has been post change i find myself putting down the game down with 5 health packs remaining cause i don't want to play another slow paced slog through of a match. i was able to get more points faster in the old system then in the new because i could play matches faster while juggling 2 accounts. i still win about the same % it is just that the matches so much longer. i have dropped 1 account and resorted to go back to PVE which i know is totally not worth playing for the time invested but i can't even handled that anymore and usually abandon it 1/2 way through or once i get certain progressive rewards. so I am mostly playing DDQ each day. These changes destroyed my liking of the the game, the only reason i can see is that i invested heavily on xforce and i am suffering from extreme burnout. With xforce i got used to 2 minute matches, which is what it should be for a mobile game in my opinion. i think it would be a better game if it focused on game speed instead of slowing it down at high level. it has gotten soo slow that people came up with and coordinated strategies that get you points without having to slog through playing. FINDING WAYS TO GET POINTS WITHOUT HAVING TO PLAY NORMALLY. this should of been a wake up call instead of a patching change. now i lose 200pts in seconds with no chance to make it up because i get hit more then i can hit. Image for a minute if they sped things up instead of slowing it down. making 4* up to par with xforce and 4thor instead of nerfing them. I think that would be a better game then we have today, and that would be a game i would like to play on my mobile device in which my options are limited. On PC there are soo many better games out there that i don't give MPQ a second, or even a first, thought about when choosing to play. I only stick around because i can't deny that this game has so much potential, however the implementation most of the time, DDQ is awesome, just makes me feel underwhelmed and disappointed. I started off a big fan and recommended it to all my friends when i started, but i can not recommend it after the 4* nerfs because i don't want my friends purchases to be completely nullified by one change without substantial reimbursement. but thanks for trying to fix the game. hope it gets better.
Heartburn wrote: These changes destroyed my liking of the the game, the only reason i can see is that i invested heavily on xforce and i am suffering from extreme burnout. With xforce i got used to 2 minute matches, which is what it should be for a mobile game in my opinion. i think it would be a better game if it focused on game speed instead of slowing it down at high level. it has gotten soo slow that people came up with and coordinated strategies that get you points without having to slog through playing. FINDING WAYS TO GET POINTS WITHOUT HAVING TO PLAY NORMALLY. this should of been a wake up call instead of a patching change. now i lose 200pts in seconds with no chance to make it up because i get hit more then i can hit.
MikeHock wrote: raisinbman wrote: MikeHock wrote: "The nerf of 4* Thor and X-Force were good for the game." Respectfully disagree. Milking the player-base of their $$$$ with OP characters & then nerfing those characters is a common MPQ theme. It leaves us feeling ripped off and scared to spend again (or waste months trying to max out what will eventually be nerfed). they said they have no plans to change any 3* or 4* are u suureeeeee you dont wanna buy covers for hulkbust x? LOL, a sucker is born every minute.
raisinbman wrote: MikeHock wrote: "The nerf of 4* Thor and X-Force were good for the game." Respectfully disagree. Milking the player-base of their $$$$ with OP characters & then nerfing those characters is a common MPQ theme. It leaves us feeling ripped off and scared to spend again (or waste months trying to max out what will eventually be nerfed). they said they have no plans to change any 3* or 4* are u suureeeeee you dont wanna buy covers for hulkbust x?
TheOncomingStorm wrote: MikeHock wrote: raisinbman wrote: MikeHock wrote: "The nerf of 4* Thor and X-Force were good for the game." Respectfully disagree. Milking the player-base of their $$$$ with OP characters & then nerfing those characters is a common MPQ theme. It leaves us feeling ripped off and scared to spend again (or waste months trying to max out what will eventually be nerfed). they said they have no plans to change any 3* or 4* are u suureeeeee you dont wanna buy covers for hulkbust x? LOL, a sucker is born every minute. ikr? They said they currently don't have plans. I've come up with 3 rules for nerfing. 1. If you play a character and your first thought is how is it this character has not been nerfed yet, then that character will probably be nerfed. 2. There's no use trying to figure out the timing of a nerf. It'll happen, but the timing will usually seem arbitrary. 3. If mpq comes out and states a character is balanced for their # of stars, the character will not be nerfed. If that say anything else like there are no current plans, they're going to study the character, etc., then see Rule #2.
Dauthi wrote: Heartburn wrote: These changes destroyed my liking of the the game, the only reason i can see is that i invested heavily on xforce and i am suffering from extreme burnout. With xforce i got used to 2 minute matches, which is what it should be for a mobile game in my opinion. i think it would be a better game if it focused on game speed instead of slowing it down at high level. it has gotten soo slow that people came up with and coordinated strategies that get you points without having to slog through playing. FINDING WAYS TO GET POINTS WITHOUT HAVING TO PLAY NORMALLY. this should of been a wake up call instead of a patching change. now i lose 200pts in seconds with no chance to make it up because i get hit more then i can hit. I disagree, Marvel XForce Quest was a boring game. I am a fan of all the other Puzzle Quests, and as the name signifies they are supposed to be a puzzle. Gathering all the blacks/greens while ignoring possible combos is not a Puzzle Quest game, and yet it was the best strategy when using XForce because it ended the game. I'm glad that mind numbingly repetitive game is over.
Heartburn wrote: Dauthi wrote: Heartburn wrote: These changes destroyed my liking of the the game, the only reason i can see is that i invested heavily on xforce and i am suffering from extreme burnout. With xforce i got used to 2 minute matches, which is what it should be for a mobile game in my opinion. i think it would be a better game if it focused on game speed instead of slowing it down at high level. it has gotten soo slow that people came up with and coordinated strategies that get you points without having to slog through playing. FINDING WAYS TO GET POINTS WITHOUT HAVING TO PLAY NORMALLY. this should of been a wake up call instead of a patching change. now i lose 200pts in seconds with no chance to make it up because i get hit more then i can hit. I disagree, Marvel XForce Quest was a boring game. I am a fan of all the other Puzzle Quests, and as the name signifies they are supposed to be a puzzle. Gathering all the blacks/greens while ignoring possible combos is not a Puzzle Quest game, and yet it was the best strategy when using XForce because it ended the game. I'm glad that mind numbingly repetitive game is over. only time i got to play with my favorite character all day everyday that's one of the reasons i invested in him after the revamp (just couldn't justify it before he was soo bad), plus matches were way fast something i value in a mobile game more then diversity. I could pop in and out of playing and instantly know what to go for with out having to spend a minute trying to find out what to go for after returning to a game after a while. a combo is no good if there is a faster way to play especially when there are double the health packs. It is the same thing every week find the power team get the same colors all week. which is even more restricted if you don't have every character maxed, cause your forced to used a boosted character or put a target on your back which ends up happening cause you can't build a good team either. plus it **** you for a week if you don't have good characters boosted. now i didn't play puzzle quest before and i have to admit there is really no puzzle in this game but i came for the marvel component. while xforce and thor reined supreme it clearly gave all players something to shoot for so that they can dominate as well, something lacking right now. they took some steps back and focusing on 3*s rather then 4*, they are doing better as the thing was one of the characters i was excited for which hasn't been the case in a while. one of my other problems is that i can't really focus build a character without luck and HP. if there were no roster slots i would be fine with the system but with roster slots it is just an hp suck. In marvel heroes 2015 i can save eternity shards and buy out the character in a couple weeks something i can't do here without being top 10 for each of the hero's events but with so many heroes and so few rewards it might take a month to come around again. so i might finish out the character in 3 months or so with ddq included.
Deadp wrote: raisinbman wrote: MikeHock wrote: "The nerf of 4* Thor and X-Force were good for the game." Respectfully disagree. Milking the player-base of their $$$$ with OP characters & then nerfing those characters is a common MPQ theme. It leaves us feeling ripped off and scared to spend again (or waste months trying to max out what will eventually be nerfed). they said they have no plans to change any 3* or 4* are u suureeeeee you dont wanna buy covers for hulkbust x? Yep, never sending them another dime. Fool me once shame on the bastards who did it.
Heartburn wrote: Dauthi wrote: I disagree, Marvel XForce Quest was a boring game. I am a fan of all the other Puzzle Quests, and as the name signifies they are supposed to be a puzzle. Gathering all the blacks/greens while ignoring possible combos is not a Puzzle Quest game, and yet it was the best strategy when using XForce because it ended the game. I'm glad that mind numbingly repetitive game is over. a combo is no good if there is a faster way to play especially when there are double the health packs.
Dauthi wrote: I disagree, Marvel XForce Quest was a boring game. I am a fan of all the other Puzzle Quests, and as the name signifies they are supposed to be a puzzle. Gathering all the blacks/greens while ignoring possible combos is not a Puzzle Quest game, and yet it was the best strategy when using XForce because it ended the game. I'm glad that mind numbingly repetitive game is over.
plus it **** you for a week if you don't have good characters boosted.
now i didn't play puzzle quest before and i have to admit there is really no puzzle in this game but i came for the marvel component.
while xforce and thor reined supreme it clearly gave all players something to shoot for so that they can dominate as well, something lacking right now. they took some steps back and focusing on 3*s rather then 4*, they are doing better as the thing was one of the characters i was excited for which hasn't been the case in a while.
one of my other problems is that i can't really focus build a character without luck and HP. if there were no roster slots i would be fine with the system but with roster slots it is just an hp suck. In marvel heroes 2015 i can save eternity shards and buy out the character in a couple weeks something i can't do here without being top 10 for each of the hero's events but with so many heroes and so few rewards it might take a month to come around again. so i might finish out the character in 3 months or so with ddq included.